Unfair randomness selection

[bedebah]

we are at stake bro, it's normal 😂😂

[bharath621]

3 minutes ago, bedebah said:

we are at stake bro, it's normal 😂😂

This is the reason why Stake stoped X giveaway and other giveaway 🥀

[Astar19]

58 minutes ago, bharath621 said:

"You being unlucky isn't proof of fairness. By your logic, if I win 6 times and you win 0 times, should we conclude the system is rigged for me? See how dumb that sounds?"

Those challenges which u mentioned apart from 1 rest all more than 10-15 rest challenges never been selected that’s not luck that’s being bias and i’m not blaming you for all this i’m just using you as an example i dont want you to get affected so chill let the managers have a have @Jake7589

[DragoslavP]

Hello guys,

I've seen some concerns raised about how winners are selected in our random giveaway promotions, so I wanted to provide some clarity.

For my promotions, winners are selected using a random number generator. The process is simple: I generate a random number first, and then I check which forum post corresponds to that number (post number). The user who made that post is selected as the winner.

I understand that some users may be skeptical because this process isn't recorded or publicly verifiable. In those cases, we ask the community to trust that we're conducting the draws fairly and without favoritism.

The reality is that no matter what system is used, there will always be participants who are disappointed not to be selected. Even in a giveaway where 100 out of 101 participants win, the one person who doesn't win may still feel that the result was unfair.

That doesn't mean the concerns aren't valid. We completely understand why people want transparency, and we appreciate the feedback. However, there is currently no practical way for us to conclusively prove that every random draw is 100% random to everyone's satisfaction.

What we can assure you is that winners are selected fairly, without manual intervention, and without any preference given to specific users. Our goal is always to run these promotions in an honest and unbiased manner.

Thank you for sharing your concerns and for continuing to participate in our community events.

Best regards,
DragoslavP

[KaiZidan]

@DragoslavP Thank you for the clarification and transparency. We appreciate your efforts to keep the giveaways fair and unbiased. While transparency is always important, it's good to hear that winners are selected randomly without manual intervention. Looking forward to future events! Thank you once again 👍

[mcolby86]

Hmm you still got something

[Rez112]

@DragoslavP and how about for contests where multiple bet ID'S are allowed?

Also, i think there's still some confusion about the NBA playoff contest, as one of the selected winners did not even post one single Bet ID.

[DragoslavP]

Hello @Rez112

I was only discussing my promotions here; I don't really have much insight into promotions from other CMs, but I'm sure they are using a similar system to mine.

Best regards,

DragoslavP.

[reddevilc1]

2 hours ago, bharath621 said:

"You being unlucky isn't proof of fairness. By your logic, if I win 6 times and you win 0 times, should we conclude the system is rigged for me? See how dumb that sounds?"

If the selection was random and you won several times in a row with very low odds, do you think that's luck? 😆😆😆😆 We see fraud here because it's definitely a predetermined selection.

[kaitalow]

28 minutes ago, Rez112 said:

@DragoslavP and how about for contests where multiple bet ID'S are allowed?

Also, i think there's still some confusion about the NBA playoff contest, as one of the selected winners did not even post one single Bet ID.

Forums and stake names may be different

[Forevenge924]

that's very impressive

[Astar19]

1 hour ago, DragoslavP said:

Hello guys,

I've seen some concerns raised about how winners are selected in our random giveaway promotions, so I wanted to provide some clarity.

For my promotions, winners are selected using a random number generator. The process is simple: I generate a random number first, and then I check which forum post corresponds to that number (post number). The user who made that post is selected as the winner.

I understand that some users may be skeptical because this process isn't recorded or publicly verifiable. In those cases, we ask the community to trust that we're conducting the draws fairly and without favoritism.

The reality is that no matter what system is used, there will always be participants who are disappointed not to be selected. Even in a giveaway where 100 out of 101 participants win, the one person who doesn't win may still feel that the result was unfair.

That doesn't mean the concerns aren't valid. We completely understand why people want transparency, and we appreciate the feedback. However, there is currently no practical way for us to conclusively prove that every random draw is 100% random to everyone's satisfaction.

What we can assure you is that winners are selected fairly, without manual intervention, and without any preference given to specific users. Our goal is always to run these promotions in an honest and unbiased manner.

Thank you for sharing your concerns and for continuing to participate in our community events.

Best regards,
DragoslavP

What about you @Jake7589 how do you select winners for your giveaways? 

[reddevilc1]

26 minutes ago, kaitalow said:

Forums and stake names may be different

I checked and confirmed that the forum name and stake name are different. But I also verified that he hasn't placed any bets. @Jake7589 himself is also silent and offering no explanation.

[Bustoalready]

They did the same when runned this giveaways on twitter !!!

Same winners picked 9-10 times .. others 0 times .... there is even a thread on this forum regarding this .. NOONE CARE.

No transparency , no fairness !!! Just like all the games from stake !!! 

Winners from any promos are house accounts and farming accounts.. If you dare to win one challenge you automaticly get promo banned and code banned , but same people using bots and 3rd party programs to achieve multis on games and complete challenges are never banned or restricted !!!

[Astar19]

18 minutes ago, Bustoalready said:

They did the same when runned this giveaways on twitter !!!

Same winners picked 9-10 times .. others 0 times .... there is even a thread on this forum regarding this .. NOONE CARE.

No transparency , no fairness !!! Just like all the games from stake !!! 

Winners from any promos are house accounts and farming accounts.. If you dare to win one challenge you automaticly get promo banned and code banned , but same people using bots and 3rd party programs to achieve multis on games and complete challenges are never banned or restricted !!!

Yeah that’s sad! What type of randomness is this where 1 person is winning continuously and rest not even once 

[obasca]

i saw eddie is missing choosen players are copied other ppl pictures and still won the prize

they don't checked pictures 

Edited Tuesday at 08:02 PM by obasca

[Astar19]

1 minute ago, obasca said:

i saw eddie is missing choosen players are copied other ppl pictures and still won the prize

they don't checked pictures lazy mods

Its true first they say be creative we spend hours being creative and after they select some copied or absolutely no effort pictures that’s really sad! 

1 hour ago, reddevilc1 said:

I checked and confirmed that the forum name and stake name are different. But I also verified that he hasn't placed any bets. @Jake7589 himself is also silent and offering no explanation.

Bro stake customer support needs to be improved that is the reason people get so frustrated and quit stake apart from the forum i play in indian ruppes there is about more than 25K stuck in pending and i dont have any possible source so that i could get my money back i’m so irritated with this even today 2K was stuck they ask for payment details we share it and they simply deny stating that they have not received it and stake support just simply ask us to do refund from bank even though that’s not possible at all there is not even 1% chance that i could get that reversed and they let us hanging in the middle with nothing just accept and forget about our money! 

[kaitalow]

18 hours ago, reddevilc1 said:

フォーラム名と賭け金名が異なることを確認しました。また、彼が賭けをしていないことも確認しました。@Jake7589彼自身も沈黙を守り、何の説明もしていない。

That's a surprise Lol

[reddevilc1]

4 hours ago, kaitalow said:

That's a surprise Lol

When will you provide us with feedback on this matter? @Jake7589