SUIYE Posted July 7 Author #3 Posted July 7 3 hours ago, Kingd00712 said: Who do you have in mind Tony lin
wrenvi5 Posted July 9 #4 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey no debate fr, dude's a straight up monster at the table.
Zexenne Posted July 9 #5 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey is the goat fr, nobody else even comes close when it comes to reading people and making those insane calls.
legacyna Posted July 9 #6 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey is the obvious pick but honestly Negreanu's table talk and reads are next level too, dude can sniff out a bluff from across the room
sandin Posted July 9 #7 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey is the safe answer but I gotta go with Negreanu, the way he calls out exact hands is just ridiculous.
onyxvi333 Posted July 9 #8 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey's the legend but gotta say Negreanu’s ability to literally name your cards before you flip them is wild
cloton Posted July 9 #9 Posted July 9 Phil Ivey's the obvious GOAT but honestly, I feel like Negreanu's ability to call out exact hands is just on another level.
Nasiliyee64 Posted July 9 #10 Posted July 9 Ivey's the goat for raw skill but tbh Dnegs calling out hands like he's psychic is just more fun to watch lol
kim33oo8d Posted July 10 #11 Posted July 10 ngl Ivey's pure skill is unmatched but gotta shoutout Negreanu's vibes at the table too, man knows how to psych ppl out ?
vycayver Posted July 10 #14 Posted July 10 Ivey once tanked for like five minutes against a massive bluff from Tom Dwan and somehow found the call with just bottom pair, no idea how he does it.
Vynwyn Posted July 11 #15 Posted July 11 Honestly I lean towards Phil Ivey just cause his cold reads in high stakes cash games are something else, like that hand against Dwan where he sniffed out a bluff with almost nothing was insane. But if we're talking tournament voume and adapting over decades you can't really ignore Hellmuth's bracelet count even if his table manners tilt me sometimes.
tycenne Posted July 11 #16 Posted July 11 I get why people say Ivey but tbh his edge was bigger in the old Full Tillt days, now the field caught up a bit.
steinayxen Posted July 11 #17 Posted July 11 Are you thinking live readds or online crushers when you say best?
Tycirki93 Posted July 11 #18 Posted July 11 Phil Ivey all day. The way he sniffed out that Dwan bluff wasnt even luck it was pure feel for the game. Imagine what the odds were on him making that call.
Merien762 Posted July 11 #19 Posted July 11 Ivey has the legacy but honestly I watch Linus play online and the math just feels unbeatable now
Shredki Posted July 11 #20 Posted July 11 I remmeber watching Negreanu read some guy's hand out loud perfectly on a stream once, straight up calling his exact cards before the flop even came. It felt less like poker and more like a magic trick.
sylynxen Posted July 11 #22 Posted July 11 Ivey's Hendon Mob stats alone are wild but I think right now the sickest heads up grinders online are putting in way more volume so the real money skill gap shows different. For the best of all time it's always Ivey though, guy read souls.
runeumoria Posted July 12 #23 Posted July 12 Depends if you mean live reads or GTO solvers basically, it’s like two different games now. Ivey had the instinct but the online guys like Linus just don’t make exploitable mistakes in the same way.
aceu6c99d Posted July 13 #24 Posted July 13 OP said TT like pocket tens. Super ranom tilt hand maybe.
asheemf256p Posted July 14 #25 Posted July 14 I once watched a full six hour session of Ivey at a final table and he called a river shove with jack high because he said the guy's pulse in his neck was twitching, just bonkers stuff you can't teach. It made me realize the best player is whoever can stay calm and read the human, not just the solver output.
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