Autumnin Posted July 10 #27 Posted July 10 Honestly the refs let way too many hard tackles on him slide for this theory to hold up
pyxraess Posted July 10 #29 Posted July 10 I keep going back to the handball shot in the 2022 final against France, if that was a smaller nation screaming for a penalty the whole narrative flips on its head and Argentina probably don't lift the trophy.
morthesse Posted July 10 #30 Posted July 10 I watched the Netherlands match live and even my Dutch budyd turned to me after that Paredes incident and said the ref left his cards at the hotel
vaelaltha Posted July 10 #31 Posted July 10 Feels like if they really wanted to hand him a fairy tale ending they would have just done it in 2014 when the whole world was watching, not wait eight years and rely on some dodgy penalties. The Qatar run had some soft calls sure but that happens to every big team in tournaments, it is not a Messi specific thing.
onyxaeni Posted July 10 #32 Posted July 10 I remember watching the Netherlands game with some friends and everyone screaming about that penalty, only for my one buddy to pull up the rulebook and actually prove it was a clear handball. That debate will never die but honestly both sides ignore half the context each time.
Norosyth Posted July 10 #33 Posted July 10 Next time you watch an Argentina match, count how many tactical fous on Messi go unpunished compared to someone like Kvaratskhelia or Vinicius. You might notice the protection runs both ways but isn't equally distributed.
morthurry4 Posted July 10 #34 Posted July 10 Felt the same watching my nephew get every call in youth league
zyxureon Posted July 10 #35 Posted July 10 I see where you're coming from but I think the protection narrative overlooks how many soft yellows Messi actually avoids purely because defenders are scared to touch him in dangerous areas. To me it's less a referee conspiracy and more just the natural respect and caution a player of that caliber commands on the pitch.
bulbyheta Posted July 11 #36 Posted July 11 ngl messi def gets some soft calls bro but all the fifa protecting him stuff is kinda overblown lol ????
Meriaean Posted July 11 #38 Posted July 11 im just stuck on the millions of views part, as if popularity equals truth lol
clottedateries8 Posted July 11 #39 Posted July 11 i feeel like ppl reach way too hard with the whole fifa protecting messi thing honestly. his ability to draw fouls is just how he plays, he's always dribbling right into traffic so of course there's gonna be contact more often
AWdawn12 Posted July 11 #40 Posted July 11 No he protect himself Without fifa, messi still Hundred miles better than penaldo
Gopayocir Posted July 11 #41 Posted July 11 Yeah kinda, but egypt was bad for conceded 3 goal within 15 minutes
aiwdnawn Posted July 11 #42 Posted July 11 Nope. he gon thru a lot of hard times before. when he actually succed, why everyone mocking him? Jealous?
ladyly Posted July 11 #43 Posted July 11 but if fifa really wanted that narrative wouldnt the 2022 final pen be way too obvious for them to actually try it?
phantick96 Posted July 11 #44 Posted July 11 I watched that Netherlands quarterfinal in 2022 at a bar and even the Dutch fans next to me admitted the refereeing was completely one sied after the match, though I still think it is just normal big tournament chaos rather than a conspiracy.
loreon Posted July 11 #45 Posted July 11 feel like people forget the 2022 final was pure chaos too, if fifa really rigged it they wouldnt have let mbappe nearly snatch it like that. its just confirmation bias imo
yellowreal Posted July 11 #46 Posted July 11 24 minutes ago, phantick96 said: I watched that Netherlands quarterfinal in 2022 at a bar and even the Dutch fans next to me admitted the refereeing was completely one sied after the match, though I still think it is just normal big tournament chaos rather than a conspiracy. yep yep yep, money can always turn a game. Even one player could hypothetically be bought to throw a game. And fifa obviously likes money..
Umbraon Posted July 11 #47 Posted July 11 I watched the Netherlands game live and that Paredes incident alone had me questioning things, like how he stayed on the pitch was beyond me. Argentina's odds to win it all dropped so fast after that mtch it felt like the sportsbooks already knew the script.
RadanReaper Posted July 11 #48 Posted July 11 ngl messi def gets some soft calls but teh fifa protecting him take is a bit much bro ? imo
Pyxesse11 Posted July 12 #49 Posted July 12 Tbh that 2014 final argument gets used a lot but it also works both ways: maybe they over corrected after seeing how close Germany pushed them. Refereeing can be inconsistent without it being a full on script.
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