warikk Posted Saturday at 09:50 PM #1 Posted Saturday at 09:50 PM Let’s break down the actual logic behind the Provably Fair system. The outcome of your next roll is determined by a cryptographic hash combination of the Server Seed, your Client Seed, and the Nonce (the bet counter). When players hit a bad streak and instantly rotate their client seed to "change their luck," they are logically doing nothing more than shuffling a deck of cards that was already randomized. Because the server seed remains hidden and the nonces are sequential, changing your custom input doesn't alter the mathematical distribution of the underlying random number generator. Even knowing the pure physics of the cryptography, do you still find yourself resetting your seed just to clear the mental slate, or do you strictly trust the math to balance out over time? Let's debate the logic.
woonori Posted Sunday at 03:35 AM #2 Posted Sunday at 03:35 AM i still do it sometimes not because i think it changes the math but just to break the routine and feel like im in control of something even if i know its placebo
Pyxique4 Posted Sunday at 09:21 AM #3 Posted Sunday at 09:21 AM I swapped my seed after 14 reds on dice last month and hit a green on the very next click, still feels good even though I know it means nothing.
kimojgv70 Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM #4 Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM I get the math, but calling it pointless misses the pssychological side. If you're on a tilt, hitting that reset can stop you from chasing losses for a minute, and that alone has value.
mika36gkag3r Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM #5 Posted yesterday at 09:13 AM same logic yet the hash chains a different result how pointless
ace80tqx Posted 12 hours ago #6 Posted 12 hours ago do you think that little placebo kikc actually changes how much you bet right after reseting though?
halektcg1o1 Posted 12 hours ago #7 Posted 12 hours ago I treat it like hitting a reset button for my own headspace more than the seed itself. If I'm tilting I'll rotate it then immediately drop my bet size by 30% for the next 20 rolls so I dont nuke my balance chasing the same feeling.
neoav1q653 Posted 12 hours ago #8 Posted 12 hours ago i still rotate mine too but the part about the server seed still being hidden is what always gtes me, it really is just moving chairs around on the same deck haha. and i bet half the ppl doing it dont even know that the nonces just keep counting up like nothing happened.
danxdc2v4 Posted 12 hours ago #9 Posted 12 hours ago i get the math but you're ignoring that the nonce resets when you swap, so it isnt the *same* deck anymore, it's a fresh chain. still random ofc but saying it does absolute zero is a bit off.
calebnwachukwu0 Posted 11 hours ago #11 Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Jioke63 said: Best England 🏴 player What am confused,
sam73tsug Posted 11 hours ago #12 Posted 11 hours ago I see the math but calling it "absolute zero" feels a bit strict because the nonce does jump back to square one, so you're not stepping through the exact same sequence of hashes you would have. It's still random at the core, sure, but the path you walk changes entirely.
riobrfmn6a Posted 10 hours ago #13 Posted 10 hours ago Yeah I see the nonce reset argument and it's technically a new chain but to me that's almost worse because now you're just rolling on a completely unknown sequence from scratch instead of sticking with the one that's already been running. At least the original sequence you could argue was "due" for a hit even if that's not how math works lol
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