Only Disadvantages of Playing Crash 📈​​​​​​​🛬​​​​​​​💥​​​​​​​ 👀​​​

[GKD09]

I'm posting on Stake Discussion, because Crash is still not a part of the forum, but will surely be added soon.

Below are the reasons why I think Crash can be disadvantageous to users who play it, and mainly for those who are looking to hit a certain multiplier. 

Now the big difference between Crash and Limbo or any other game is that it has its own seed and hash which brings about the random multipliers that the current game will crash on. Unlike the other games where we can alter the client seed and also change the server seed, and then depending on each game we roll, the multiplier is randomized and presented (for Limbo).

MANUAL
Now the disadvantages to this is that, if we are playing crash for a session and say we are playing manually (cash out manually), the biggest fear is cashing out but it crashes soon after and we end up with a loss. This goes down to the network connection and other factors, that cannot be controlled by us per say. Also during the time to place the bet if you miss to get in and you were planning on getting out at 8x and you see it go up and above that - the frustration is immense. Especially when it doesn't come soon after whilst your in the game.

AUTO BET
Alternatively, if we using the autobet and trying to play for a 50x for example and due to a bad internet interruption or something the auto bet stops, and you miss it, and it could take long long before it comes again. That is why it could be very disadvantageous to hunt high multipliers on crash, I think.

If you were playing Limbo instead, you can never miss out on a lucky bet since it will always come in the same sequence as long as you don't change the seed. Even if you have a bad connection the bet coming next will remain. And of course you can't miss out on it in few seconds of joining the bet like in Crash.

Definitely Crash is much more fun and you should keep these in your mind. The way I usually like to play crash is to try predicting the multiplier and placing the auto cash out around that number as a limit and try cashing out manually. But you only have around 5 seconds to alter this and your bet amount. Which is why I play Crash only for shorter periods and with decent multipliers  

P.s - I love Crash too, don't get me wrong. Just stating the disadvantages over the other games, since this is a multiplayer game! 

[Etude]

Crash is one of the most random games on Stake given that any multipliers can appear from 0.99x to indefinite amount which is similar to Limbo but with Crash being a multiplayer game where the same game rounds are shared by everyone who placed a bet in the rounds.

[GKD09]

19 minutes ago, IjazAli said:

I dont think crash is disadvantageous because i got 1000x payouts three times  or more which gave me alot of profits. If you bet small and autobet at 1000x payout it wont be a disadvantage at all. Im not saying im right its just my opinion. So far I find this game more profitable than other games to me in my experience.

Yes I'm not saying you can't get high payouts or its not profitable, I'm only saying the disadvantages it has over the other games since its a multiplayer game.  For me I have missed many high multis while doing other stuff while playing. 

Like I said I like to play manually since I play with decent multipliers from around 4 to 60s. I generally play while doing other stuff (changing music, forum, and other work) and I tend to miss out on some bets which would have given me profits. And using autobets, I have found that they randomly stop due to some reason, either I get some error or some internet interruption. 

11 minutes ago, Etude said:

Crash is one of the most random games on Stake given that any multipliers can appear from 0.99x to indefinite amount which is similar to Limbo but with Crash being a multiplayer game where the same game rounds are shared by everyone who placed a bet in the rounds.

Yeah true and its more of a fun game mode which has its own chatroom. Really cool that they added it tbh. Btw just wanted to point out its actually 1.00x which is the lowest for crash  

[williamshennie9]

The main disadvantage for me is that is can crash at 1.00x (yes, I know this is the house edge). So knowing that, you can't go all in and guarantee that you will win on 1.01x, because it could easily crash before that.

[nuuuitsjdragon]

37 minutes ago, GKD09 said:

I'm posting on Stake Discussion, because Crash is still not a part of the forum, but will surely be added soon.

Below are the reasons why I think Crash can be disadvantageous to users who play it, and mainly for those who are looking to hit a certain multiplier. 

Now the big difference between Crash and Limbo or any other game is that it has its own seed and hash which brings about the random multipliers that the current game will crash on. Unlike the other games where we can alter the client seed and also change the server seed, and then depending on each game we roll, the multiplier is randomized and presented (for Limbo).

MANUAL
Now the disadvantages to this is that, if we are playing crash for a session and say we are playing manually (cash out manually), the biggest fear is cashing out but it crashes soon after and we end up with a loss. This goes down to the network connection and other factors, that cannot be controlled by us per say. Also during the time to place the bet if you miss to get in and you were planning on getting out at 8x and you see it go up and above that - the frustration is immense. Especially when it doesn't come soon after whilst your in the game.

AUTO BET
Alternatively, if we using the autobet and trying to play for a 50x for example and due to a bad internet interruption or something the auto bet stops, and you miss it, and it could take long long before it comes again. That is why it could be very disadvantageous to hunt high multipliers on crash, I think.

If you were playing Limbo instead, you can never miss out on a lucky bet since it will always come in the same sequence as long as you don't change the seed. Even if you have a bad connection the bet coming next will remain. And of course you can't miss out on it in few seconds of joining the bet like in Crash.

Definitely Crash is much more fun and you should keep these in your mind. The way I usually like to play crash is to try predicting the multiplier and placing the auto cash out around that number as a limit and try cashing out manually. But you only have around 5 seconds to alter this and your bet amount. Which is why I play Crash only for shorter periods and with decent multipliers  

Thanks for bringing up some points that I have not considered, especially the part whereby hunting higher multipliers might not be such a good idea when it comes to playing Crash.

I guess we will see when the game is fully released to determine which strategy would be the best for playing a multiplayer like Crash. 

I hope my 1,000,000x will come soon for Limbo then since I haven’t changed the seed for quite some time but have not successfully hunted it! 😫

[ITDex]

People Got Different Opinions about this since everyone plays differently, as you said ”people with bad internet is disadvantageous” but not many stake players have bad internet. And i persobally dont think crash is advantageous or disadvantageous cause you dont know the result such as any other game at stake. Its all about luck. Thats why its caalled gambling.

[Enzo]

I think it depends on how you want to play. If you choose to play riskier with manual cashouts, you are also taking the risk of lag affecting you because everyone should know there is more going on back and forth between the server and the client to play crash.

Auto Payouts almost NEVER fail. The reason being is when you send a bet to the server you send the info for the auto cashout field too. If that's at 2.52x then the server will be prepared to cash you out. Where as when you click the cash out button you're sending an additional request to the server.

[GKD09]

2 hours ago, williamshennie9 said:

The main disadvantage for me is that is can crash at 1.00x (yes, I know this is the house edge). So knowing that, you can't go all in and guarantee that you will win on 1.01x, because it could easily crash before that.

Lol without that everyone would be VIPs  

1 hour ago, ITDex said:

People Got Different Opinions about this since everyone plays differently, as you said ”people with bad internet is disadvantageous” but not many stake players have bad internet. And i persobally dont think crash is advantageous or disadvantageous cause you dont know the result such as any other game at stake. Its all about luck. Thats why its caalled gambling.

No when it comes to cashing out manually you will never get the multiplier you think you hit.. and with many crash games it is the same. You can think you cashed out and you find yourself crashed and losing a bet. That is why the auto cash out is used a lot even while playing manual. Also what I meant was there comes the factor where the browser fails or an error comes or your connection disconnect for even a second and you could be out of that round which may have been the winner. 

If we are talking about luck being how high the multiplier goes, in this case we could easily miss that multiplier by being a bit slow in hitting that bet button (since there's only 5 seconds to act) whereas on Limbo you would never face that. Your lucky bet is waiting in line till you come to it. At least it is impossible for that to run away without you changing seeds. That is what I meant.

1 hour ago, Enzo said:

I think it depends on how you want to play. If you choose to play riskier with manual cashouts, you are also taking the risk of lag affecting you because everyone should know there is more going on back and forth between the server and the client to play crash.

Yeah there usually is some sort of lag and you can see the comments on the english chat where people say laaaagg etc @ITDex. And if you have played crash anywhere else too its pretty similar, while cashing out manually. The auto cash out will cash you out to the exact point even if that exact point is where it crashes (2.48x on a 2.48 crash).

[Joker2nd]

so  far i iike it bro.

[Bimfo]

I don't think there are so many disadvantages playing Crash, as everyone now uses a common seed. The only disadvantage that I think is the house edge which is always there every time in any game. When your game goes 1.00x or 0.99x and you have set it to 1.01x and you bust. That's the disadvantage with it.

Yes!, that's exactly what I am talking about.

[Steffie]

 

The opinions are not always the same anyway, whatever the game. The important thing is to find your own way to make a little gain, whether on Crash or on another. All games have their own advantages and disadvantages.

[barbaris]

Yes, of course what you listed is present in the game crash, but this is the price of the multiplayer mode that everyone wanted. But if this is a problem for many, it seems to me that it would not be bad to make 2 game modes: 1. This is a crash game in the form in which we have it. 2. This is a single user mode with the ability to change seeds and server, but this is more like a Chartbet. These are just my thoughts and I do not know whether it can be implemented and whether it will be implemented.

[GKD09]

1 hour ago, Joker2nd said:

so  far i iike it bro.

I like it too without a doubt  

1 hour ago, Bimfo said:

When your game goes 1.00x or 0.99x and you have set it to 1.01x and you bust. That's the disadvantage with it.

How is this a disadvantage. Firstly the lowest is 1.00x and not 0.99x and this is also present in any other game, and easiest to compare is Limbo, the min payout is 1.01x and the lowest multipliers are 0.99x and 1.00x, so how is this a disadvantage? This is just a similarity  

1 hour ago, Steffie said:

All games have their own advantages and disadvantages.

Yes for sure every game does have their pros and cons but this topic was about the disadvantages only  

39 minutes ago, barbaris said:

This is a single user mode with the ability to change seeds and server, but this is more like a Chartbet. These are just my thoughts and I do not know whether it can be implemented and whether it will be implemented.

Oh yeah thats pretty smart. I haven't got a chance to play chartbet, but at least this is the type of discussion I'd like to hear from people.  Would definitely love more from Stake at any stage, but they most likely won't do it yeah? But a cool suggestion nevertheless.  

[cukup2]

 

If in my opinion the game crashes very cool and can get profit, and in crash we also rely on our instincts in determining profit, for example we target payout x20 and our instincts feel that we won't be able to do a casout before a defeat occurs. for the autobet, I agree that the lack of game crashes is indeed not able to install auto bet and we only give 5 seconds to make a choice and that makes me sometimes unable to follow the next session when the lag occurs

[Aazzah]

Hey there... GKD!

I personally think that crash is one of the most... If not the most random game mode. It can hit anything at any time you never know. But to be fair, That is like most game modes. but i just feel that crash is the most random game mode. I also do not think there are no disadvantages either. But that's in my own opinion...

I think auto bet is an advantage on the other hand... I think this because, you can go for the exact multiplier you want without it crashing on like 3.01 and you can't cash out in time. But if you had it automatic... You would get the win because you would be on 3x.

But that's my opinion about crash... Have a good day!