Kippo Posted July 27, 2019 #1 Posted July 27, 2019 Hello guys recently I have seen some accounts getting banned for multi/abuse or maybe there more reasons to get banned. But when i see their profile only seen banned stats. I think that’s we should have to see why he gets banned for which reason. We may need that thing for clearance for us because there may have more complicated things about impersonating. Example , someone who wants to impersonating me. Create another account with like kippo-2 and that account got banned for multi. I know that support knows ip and device. But users didn’t know about who is behind that account. Provably most people will think it was me . That’s why I’m thinking about banned reasons to reveal. That what i want to suggest. Share me your opinion on this topic. Thank you 😊
sheenazbay Posted July 27, 2019 #2 Posted July 27, 2019 I know that most users have alt accounts to try various strategies and save a portion of their accounts from their main account, having an alt account is also allowed as long as it doesn't break the rules like alt chat for rainfarmer, if it violates it will certainly be banned
wngo123 Posted July 27, 2019 #3 Posted July 27, 2019 Quote recently I have seen some accounts getting banned for multi/abuse or maybe there more reasons to get banned. But when i see their profile only seen banned stats. I think that’s we should have to see why he gets banned for which reason. We may need that thing for clearance for us because there may have more complicated things about impersonating. Alt accounts can be used to do many harm. For example it could be used to cheat on challenges. You could have many alt accounts trying to hunt for specific challenge and you would take advantage because of this situation which wouldn't be fair to other players who do this with one account. Additionally for example on the forum challenge it is easy to imagine you could create number of alts and complete the weekly challenge and gather the prizes. Another not fair approach. In the old days when the faucet was much higher some people used alts as farming. They created many alts and claim faucet there and then began to send all the faucet money they got to one account. It looked really funny in the chat because back then all tips were public. Of course the staff quickly could figure out what is going on and after giving warnings they banned such people, but some didn't even notice they were given a warning and just continue to abuse the faucet until they get banned, it looked so funny because you would see that regularly this guy sends faucet money to his alt accounts. Everyone sees that and laughs and he is given a warning, but he pretends he doesn't know what is going on. Really funny. But some other stuff the alts can be used are for example they could claim several coupons. When stake gives some occasional bonuses, people with alts could get several bonuses. Completely not fair. However if I remember correctly you are allowed to have alt if you say openly that this is your alt or if you don't use it to abuse and take advantage of stake. That's why some people have been banned and others were not. Those who were banned tried to take advantage of stake and those who were not they were just minding their own business not doing any harm to others.
barbaris Posted July 27, 2019 #4 Posted July 27, 2019 I do not see the point in multiple accounts. I have repeatedly heard that someone is trying to impersonate another. Such accounts should be banned, because it is not known for what purpose it was done.
Etude Posted July 27, 2019 #5 Posted July 27, 2019 One of the most glaring reasons for multi-accounts to be banned is often that is found out that there is ban avoidance of a previous banned account player coming back pretending as somebody new. Secondly would be a abuse of the chat rules or even worst doing malicious things that harms other players.
cukup2 Posted July 27, 2019 #6 Posted July 27, 2019 maybe if the multi account in the forum is a bit detrimental to the stake because they take the opportunity to do a lot of posts to get satosi, but I do not think if multiple accounts are used to drop someone's name in this forum hopefully it doesn't happen to me because if it happens it will complicate my account going forward.if only just imitating without embedding maybe for me it would not be a problem that would be a problem when the account name is disguised and misused is dangerous
Mistake Posted July 27, 2019 #7 Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Kippo said: Hello guys recently I have seen some accounts getting banned for multi/abuse or maybe there more reasons to get banned. But when i see their profile only seen banned stats. I think that’s we should have to see why he gets banned for which reason. We may need that thing for clearance for us because there may have more complicated things about impersonating. Example , someone who wants to impersonating me. Create another account with like kippo-2 and that account got banned for multi. I know that support knows ip and device. But users didn’t know about who is behind that account. Provably most people will think it was me . That’s why I’m thinking about banned reasons to reveal. That what i want to suggest. Share me your opinion on this topic. Thank you 😊 Oh this topic made me remember for someone create account with only Tay in 2018 stake so easy if want tip another player just use @ and write like Tay thats automated to username Taytots but someone try to make account with username @Tay only i was want tip taytots but by mistake i tip the multi account thats shit happens to me
Scotland7643 Posted July 27, 2019 #8 Posted July 27, 2019 I think that a person trying to create multiple accounts on Stake is a problem to the site. It may be the reason that many accounts are banned from perpetuating
williamshennie9 Posted July 27, 2019 #9 Posted July 27, 2019 You are obviously chatting and breaking the rules with two accounts. You are allowed more than one, but you can't chat, or use the other account on the forum. Best to ask live support the reason.
Kate Posted July 27, 2019 #10 Posted July 27, 2019 Well there are not many reasons for an account to get banned only like impersonation or because of so many mutes you got or you have abused something of the site so you get banned.
htetaungxx Posted July 27, 2019 #11 Posted July 27, 2019 multi acount is nothing get to ban. but i just did mistake with stake rules and making soming abused with that multi account that's why i think. u should read rules carefully dude.
Aazzah Posted July 27, 2019 #12 Posted July 27, 2019 Hey there man! Well, I mean... I honestly do not see any point what so ever for having more than one account... But I know you can get banned for multi - accounting when rain farming and also just typing in chat in general i think... Especially, mute evading and ban evading. This is a serious cause as well. But seriously I have no idea why people have more than one account I honestly see it as pointless. One account is enough right? I mean, some rich people make new accounts and bet on it until it receives a bronze star or higher. So, they then can receive the VIP coupons that are released very frequently. Which I think shouldn't be allowed. One account is enough in my opinion i think it should be a bannable offence when creating multi accounts... Especially for the coupons... I think it's ridiculous. Have a great day guys and best of luck playing
Kippo Posted July 28, 2019 Author #13 Posted July 28, 2019 14 hours ago, sheenazbay said: I know that most users have alt accounts to try various strategies and save a portion of their accounts from their main account, having an alt account is also allowed as long as it doesn't break the rules like alt chat for rainfarmer, if it violates it will certainly be banned Yep that punishment is good for those people but reason of banned forum account should be seen in status . 14 hours ago, wngo123 said: Alt accounts can be used to do many harm. For example it could be used to cheat on challenges. You could have many alt accounts trying to hunt for specific challenge and you would take advantage because of this situation which wouldn't be fair to other players who do this with one account. Additionally for example on the forum challenge it is easy to imagine you could create number of alts and complete the weekly challenge and gather the prizes. Another not fair approach. In the old days when the faucet was much higher some people used alts as farming. They created many alts and claim faucet there and then began to send all the faucet money they got to one account. It looked really funny in the chat because back then all tips were public. Of course the staff quickly could figure out what is going on and after giving warnings they banned such people, but some didn't even notice they were given a warning and just continue to abuse the faucet until they get banned, it looked so funny because you would see that regularly this guy sends faucet money to his alt accounts. Everyone sees that and laughs and he is given a warning, but he pretends he doesn't know what is going on. Really funny. But some other stuff the alts can be used are for example they could claim several coupons. When stake gives some occasional bonuses, people with alts could get several bonuses. Completely not fair. However if I remember correctly you are allowed to have alt if you say openly that this is your alt or if you don't use it to abuse and take advantage of stake. That's why some people have been banned and others were not. Those who were banned tried to take advantage of stake and those who were not they were just minding their own business not doing any harm to others. I know that is their own business. But reason of banning forum account should be shown in status. It’s only showing banned we don’t know why it got banned. 14 hours ago, barbaris said: I do not see the point in multiple accounts. I have repeatedly heard that someone is trying to impersonate another. Such accounts should be banned, because it is not known for what purpose it was done. Yeah I didn’t see it before too . This is just my thoughts which can be happen because our stake community is built with reputation. 14 hours ago, Etude said: One of the most glaring reasons for multi-accounts to be banned is often that is found out that there is ban avoidance of a previous banned account player coming back pretending as somebody new. Secondly would be a abuse of the chat rules or even worst doing malicious things that harms other players. Yeah I know these rules. But we just see that only banned status. There has so many reasons to get banned. We should be noticeable why they got banned in profile status 12 hours ago, cukup2 said: maybe if the multi account in the forum is a bit detrimental to the stake because they take the opportunity to do a lot of posts to get satosi, but I do not think if multiple accounts are used to drop someone's name in this forum hopefully it doesn't happen to me because if it happens it will complicate my account going forward.if only just imitating without embedding maybe for me it would not be a problem that would be a problem when the account name is disguised and misused is dangerous I didn’t see it before too but it can be happen in future. 11 hours ago, DarkBlood069 said: Multi accounts and impersonating is what happens in Stake, why? Scams, people do tend to scam users for money using multi accounts or even other uses of techniques. It's very normal and that's why staying safe is so important. I've been long hard scammed during my time, maybe over £30,000 over the last 2 years. Yes it hurts, yes I feel that pain. But what can I do? That is plain hard luck life. Stay safe and make sure you know your talking to the right users. Moderators can't ban every multi, but they can do everything in their power to reduce the quantity of it. Sorry to hear that you got scammed large amount of money. I will stay safe and thank you for advice on that problem 11 hours ago, Mistake said: Oh this topic made me remember for someone create account with only Tay in 2018 stake so easy if want tip another player just use @ and write like Tay thats automated to username Taytots but someone try to make account with username @Tay only i was want tip taytots but by mistake i tip the multi account thats shit happens to me Yeah that’s one of the reasons for me to make this topic. 10 hours ago, williamshennie9 said: You are obviously chatting and breaking the rules with two accounts. You are allowed more than one, but you can't chat, or use the other account on the forum. Best to ask live support the reason. I mean about that status of banned forum account. 9 hours ago, Kate said: Well there are not many reasons for an account to get banned only like impersonation or because of so many mutes you got or you have abused something of the site so you get banned. I mean the banned status of forum account. I know that there are rules to get banned in forum but we don’t know the specifics details for each account which gets banned 9 hours ago, htetaungxx said: multi acount is nothing get to ban. but i just did mistake with stake rules and making soming abused with that multi account that's why i think. u should read rules carefully dude. I mean to forum account bro . My stake account isn’t unmute for the rest of my life:D 9 hours ago, pras111 said: in my opinion the multi di stake account is not so problematic because I don't care about that because I quite rarely chat in the room. but for players who have multiple accounts in the forum it will definitely be blocked, yes, I have read that. but the username that is only for playing without discussion in the forum doesn't seem to matter. 7 hours ago, Aazzah said: Hey there man! Well, I mean... I honestly do not see any point what so ever for having more than one account... But I know you can get banned for multi - accounting when rain farming and also just typing in chat in general i think... Especially, mute evading and ban evading. This is a serious cause as well. But seriously I have no idea why people have more than one account I honestly see it as pointless. One account is enough right? I mean, some rich people make new accounts and bet on it until it receives a bronze star or higher. So, they then can receive the VIP coupons that are released very frequently. Which I think shouldn't be allowed. One account is enough in my opinion i think it should be a bannable offence when creating multi accounts... Especially for the coupons... I think it's ridiculous. Have a great day guys and best of luck playing Yep I agree with that thing too. I think there so much hidden multi in race too . Maybe or maybe not
Enzo Posted July 28, 2019 #14 Posted July 28, 2019 I don't think us normal users need to see why an account was banned. Very few situations require transparency like that. Most are just the staff business and the user who was banned. No need for us to know as we don't have any say if they're unbanned or not anyway. Now, I don't think multi-accounting is bannable in itself, I think it would be because someone is using them to complete one challenge multiple times thus getting double the prize. I have 2 Stake accounts but never use one of them unless I'm trying to bet under secrecy
williamshennie9 Posted July 28, 2019 #15 Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Kippo said: Yeah that’s one of the reasons for me to make this topic. Then it makes perfect sense why they banned your forum account. You are strictly only allowed one forum account, not 2. So what they did is 100% normal and nothing out of the ordinary.
Ali saher Posted July 28, 2019 #16 Posted July 28, 2019 I think they not follow the rules create multiple accounts and use some wrong thing if they follow rules I thing not they banned all sites want there users follow rules
Menang Posted July 28, 2019 #17 Posted July 28, 2019 Ussually alt accounts are used as rain farmer and coupon farmer. Then they send it to main account. Thats why alt account should be banned. But its hard to demolish all alt accounts, because players always have a way to create new alt accounts again
akmal1984 Posted July 28, 2019 #18 Posted July 28, 2019 I think one of the other reasons why multiple accounts have been banned is because there are many accounts that try to take the opportunity through promotions that are held by the stake. Like the coupons that are routinely given and rain bots. I hope all farming accounts are removed from the stake site. Because because of them the rain bot for now has been disabled in Indonesian rooms
sheenazbay Posted July 28, 2019 #19 Posted July 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Kippo said: Yep that punishment is good for those people but reason of banned forum account should be seen in status . if there is an alt account that participated in the forum, it was immediately banned without any welds, because only the main account is allowed in the forum
Paecga129 Posted July 28, 2019 #20 Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/27/2019 at 5:52 AM, Kippo said: Hello guys recently I have seen some accounts getting banned for multi/abuse or maybe there more reasons to get banned. But when i see their profile only seen banned stats. I think that’s we should have to see why he gets banned for which reason. We may need that thing for clearance for us because there may have more complicated things about impersonating. Example , someone who wants to impersonating me. Create another account with like kippo-2 and that account got banned for multi. I know that support knows ip and device. But users didn’t know about who is behind that account. Provably most people will think it was me . That’s why I’m thinking about banned reasons to reveal. That what i want to suggest. Share me your opinion on this topic. Thank you 😊 I think the reason you would get banned for multi accounts is because you are collecting rain and chatting with more than one account. Otherwise it is not against stakes rules to have more than one account. At least from what I understand.
nattekut Posted July 28, 2019 #21 Posted July 28, 2019 yeah I have seen some banned as well but this can only be because they break some rules or conditions. You actually are permitted to have as many alts if you want as long as you dont abuse those alts in some way. If you just use them for just gambling than its all ok but as soon as you abuse your alt coin in some way and they find out they will get banned
Kippo Posted July 29, 2019 Author #22 Posted July 29, 2019 23 hours ago, Enzo said: I don't think us normal users need to see why an account was banned. Very few situations require transparency like that. Most are just the staff business and the user who was banned. No need for us to know as we don't have any say if they're unbanned or not anyway. Now, I don't think multi-accounting is bannable in itself, I think it would be because someone is using them to complete one challenge multiple times thus getting double the prize. I have 2 Stake accounts but never use one of them unless I'm trying to bet under secrecy I agree with that. It was just a thought which appears inside of my head. But not an important factor in serious. But I think it’s nice if show status 22 hours ago, williamshennie9 said: Then it makes perfect sense why they banned your forum account. You are strictly only allowed one forum account, not 2. So what they did is 100% normal and nothing out of the ordinary. There has more reasons to get banned. Reason should be seen by user in fact 21 hours ago, Ali saher said: I think they not follow the rules create multiple accounts and use some wrong thing if they follow rules I thing not they banned all sites want there users follow rules Yes I know. I’m just suggesting to show which kind of they broke the rules in status 21 hours ago, Menang said: Ussually alt accounts are used as rain farmer and coupon farmer. Then they send it to main account. Thats why alt account should be banned. But its hard to demolish all alt accounts, because players always have a way to create new alt accounts again Yep stake alt account should be banned too because rich people make hidden new accounts and enter race .there is no place ( high place) to an ordinary user like me because there full of rich people and streamer take it 20 hours ago, akmal1984 said: I think one of the other reasons why multiple accounts have been banned is because there are many accounts that try to take the opportunity through promotions that are held by the stake. Like the coupons that are routinely given and rain bots. I hope all farming accounts are removed from the stake site. Because because of them the rain bot for now has been disabled in Indonesian rooms Yep I agree with that. All farming accounts from stake should be banned. But I think we can’t be in chat with 2 accounts for sure 10 hours ago, sheenazbay said: if there is an alt account that participated in the forum, it was immediately banned without any welds, because only the main account is allowed in the forum I know that if you do multi forum account, alt account are getting banned and main account is restricted to enter the promotion with warning for 3 months for newbie and 1 month for members ranks 7 hours ago, Paecga129 said: I think the reason you would get banned for multi accounts is because you are collecting rain and chatting with more than one account. Otherwise it is not against stakes rules to have more than one account. At least from what I understand. I just mean to forum account ban status in this topic. Not mean to stake accounts 7 hours ago, nattekut said: yeah I have seen some banned as well but this can only be because they break some rules or conditions. You actually are permitted to have as many alts if you want as long as you dont abuse those alts in some way. If you just use them for just gambling than its all ok but as soon as you abuse your alt coin in some way and they find out they will get banned
polor12 Posted July 29, 2019 #23 Posted July 29, 2019 Banning for multiple accounts.. what kind of harm can it do.. really..what this person do have multiple accounts and deposits.. on each of them. What's the gain for this person.. I'll admit I have multiple acc.. all have deposits on them.. all do have the currency I have won. What harm am I doing . Pretty much most players know it's me.. the only reason I can think of is the only they can give is abusing the rain.. which I can say honestly for the rain.. are you kidding me.. if anyone can say a real reason why multiple accounts are not allowed due to what reason.. let me know..
williamshennie9 Posted July 29, 2019 #24 Posted July 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Kippo said: I agree with that. It was just a thought which appears inside of my head. But not an important factor in serious. But I think it’s nice if show status There has more reasons to get banned. Reason should be seen by user in fact Yes I know. I’m just suggesting to show which kind of they broke the rules in status Yep stake alt account should be banned too because rich people make hidden new accounts and enter race .there is no place ( high place) to an ordinary user like me because there full of rich people and streamer take it Yep I agree with that. All farming accounts from stake should be banned. But I think we can’t be in chat with 2 accounts for sure I know that if you do multi forum account, alt account are getting banned and main account is restricted to enter the promotion with warning for 3 months for newbie and 1 month for members ranks I just mean to forum account ban status in this topic. Not mean to stake accounts Nope, they don't need to give you any more reasons for the ban. It has always been a rule not to use more than 1 forum account, and trying to argue with it will probably do you more harm than good.
SLFJ Posted July 29, 2019 #25 Posted July 29, 2019 So in my opinion it would be pretty unfair for rains and giveaways probably like discord and other platforms which stake is on, and it is unfair for other players which use only 1 account and they try their best and they try for stake and not just these botters who win on their alt accounts and things, but imposting is another thing too that is worth talking about.
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