Ackins Edward Posted July 28, 2021 #26 Posted July 28, 2021 I have tried to play Plinko many times, and it seems to me that the best option would be to choose the low risk and the smallest number of lines. In such conditions, the gain is minimal, but it is stable (in the long distance)
woodyMoney Posted July 28, 2021 #27 Posted July 28, 2021 My advice is if you don't hit it in 1000 balls just reset it, i had 2 1000x's in 500 balls so mostly is about luck, but i can't wait 32k balls lol 0-0
Djustin88 Posted July 28, 2021 #30 Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 1:33 PM, yohanraine said: gud luck buddy
poky1084 Posted July 28, 2021 #31 Posted July 28, 2021 You can hit 1000x in 30 mins around 3 times if lucky. Chances are small for this though
Antonio4202 Posted August 5, 2021 #32 Posted August 5, 2021 ive hit 1000x prob 50+ times. i spam .10 cents to 1$ balls. i have had two within 100 balls and have gone up to 90k balls without hitting. Its pure luck. usually takes a good amount of balls dropped to get it but as long as u can stay around even before its a nice profit. to be honest prob the easiest way to hit 1000x ur bet. ive been playing slots for years and have only had a couple 1000x+ hits. ive only been on stake for a couple months and i have hit the 1000x ALOT. good luck
RPM777 Posted August 9, 2021 #33 Posted August 9, 2021 I hit it within 200 of seed. And I’ve gone 10k drops without hitting. It completely random.
ukstreamer Posted September 25, 2021 #35 Posted September 25, 2021 So I've gone almost 24,000 drops without hitting the 1000x... do I keep trying? Or just call it quits and cut my losses?
IceTeaP Posted September 25, 2021 #36 Posted September 25, 2021 Keep in mind it also just theory you also got to have luck to hit within 32k balls.
ukstreamer Posted September 25, 2021 #39 Posted September 25, 2021 5 hours ago, ukstreamer said: So I've gone almost 24,000 drops without hitting the 1000x... do I keep trying? Or just call it quits and cut my losses? Over 43,000 drops and still no 1000x. Total loss in trying to get the 1000x over the past 3 days is circa $14,000. The loss is way higher than I can even win with my betsizes! Ouch! 10 minutes ago, ukstreamer said: Over 43,000 drops and still no 1000x. Total loss in trying to get the 1000x over the past 3 days is circa $14,000. The loss is way higher than I can even win with my betsizes! Ouch! Not even a sliver of green here... with a single 130x in 8800 drops. Should I press, or fold?
borisbroekie Posted September 25, 2021 #40 Posted September 25, 2021 I never hit it, around 26K tries
ukstreamer Posted September 25, 2021 #41 Posted September 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, ukstreamer said: Over 43,000 drops and still no 1000x. Total loss in trying to get the 1000x over the past 3 days is circa $14,000. The loss is way higher than I can even win with my betsizes! Ouch! Not even a sliver of green here... with a single 130x in 8800 drops. Should I press, or fold? Tried one last bunch... and Plinko has officially defeated me. Didn't even come close to getting anything! How folks like Roshtein can sustain and win when playing with only 200 times their bet is beyond me. Even when their reloads are taken into account, they still win and win and win. (they will play with say $500k, but go max bet $2,400. That's barely over 200 times their bet...and they will run for hours on this somehow! lol) Goodbye Stake... off to a different casino for me methinks. If I can barely wager 10x my deposit on a game with only a 1% house edge... well it doesn't serve me well to stay here, as there just isn't enough entertainment for the time:money cost.
kg562 Posted September 25, 2021 #42 Posted September 25, 2021 The chances of hitting 1000x on plinko is 0.003% chance. It’s 0.0015% per side of the plinko board. Even on dice to hit 990x the chance of hitting it is 0.1% chance but cool thing about plinko is not taking a complete loss on every drop as compared to dice where every bet is 100% losing bet until it hits. I prefer going for 620x or 420x over 1000x
J-Dawg Posted October 2, 2021 #43 Posted October 2, 2021 If you go to this Plinko simulator provided by University of Colorado, and run multiple times all the different pin combinations, you will see that the Plinko on stake does not play anything like how it should. a) on 16 pins, yes hitting 1000x can come in quick, or it can take 60,000 balls. HOWEVER, the 130x and the 26x hit all the time. Yet when you play it on Stake, those 130x do not drop anywhere close to what they should be statistically b) 11 pins is statistically your best option if you are looking for the lowest house edge against you. (0.84% House Edge with a 22.66% chance for profit per ball drop) If you run that simulator multiple times. Run it 100 times if you want to be sure, you will see that the 130x on the 11 pins falls very regular. However when you play it on Stake, you can go 2,000 balls until you hit one. And now here's the funny part. As soon as you have hit it, it will never drop again. On multiple occasions (50 times at least for me) after hitting the 130x, I've raised the bet slightly and then gone 20,000 balls and not seen another 130x. This is not improbable, it is impossible. Once, sure, bad luck. But It happens every time. Hit a 130x on 11 pins in a couple thousand balls, then you can go 50,000 balls, you won't get another one. The game only let's you hit once big multiplier per 24 hour period. That is not how math works. c) 8 pins, again, run the simulator, in 3,000 balls you should be hitting the highest multiplier on that (26x) at least 20 times, minimum. However go play it on Stake, you will hit it once or twice fairly quickly (as you should) then you will sit there for 20,000 balls and not see another one. It's a shame that these "originals" are not what they claim or seem to be. No one minds losing, but when you put trust in a service, and that service is not delivering what it claims, that's not cool. If any of you watched TrainwrecksTV playing Plinko on Stake, his reactions and comments are what all of us think when we play, but we think it's only happening to us; which is "If this is a game based off pure math with no manipulation, then I must be the unluckiest person in the world as it is straight impossible to play as many balls as I have over this many hours, and the only thing that hits is the 0.2x. If you lucky you will get 130x every 20,000 balls and the 26x which should be hitting fairly regular, is just as rare as the 130x. Just have a play with the simulator and you'll see that the game you are playing is not real hard math Plinko.
ukstreamer Posted October 13, 2021 #44 Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 2:58 AM, J-Dawg said: If you go to this Plinko simulator provided by University of Colorado, and run multiple times all the different pin combinations, you will see that the Plinko on stake does not play anything like how it should. a) on 16 pins, yes hitting 1000x can come in quick, or it can take 60,000 balls. HOWEVER, the 130x and the 26x hit all the time. Yet when you play it on Stake, those 130x do not drop anywhere close to what they should be statistically b) 11 pins is statistically your best option if you are looking for the lowest house edge against you. (0.84% House Edge with a 22.66% chance for profit per ball drop) If you run that simulator multiple times. Run it 100 times if you want to be sure, you will see that the 130x on the 11 pins falls very regular. However when you play it on Stake, you can go 2,000 balls until you hit one. And now here's the funny part. As soon as you have hit it, it will never drop again. On multiple occasions (50 times at least for me) after hitting the 130x, I've raised the bet slightly and then gone 20,000 balls and not seen another 130x. This is not improbable, it is impossible. Once, sure, bad luck. But It happens every time. Hit a 130x on 11 pins in a couple thousand balls, then you can go 50,000 balls, you won't get another one. The game only let's you hit once big multiplier per 24 hour period. That is not how math works. c) 8 pins, again, run the simulator, in 3,000 balls you should be hitting the highest multiplier on that (26x) at least 20 times, minimum. However go play it on Stake, you will hit it once or twice fairly quickly (as you should) then you will sit there for 20,000 balls and not see another one. It's a shame that these "originals" are not what they claim or seem to be. No one minds losing, but when you put trust in a service, and that service is not delivering what it claims, that's not cool. If any of you watched TrainwrecksTV playing Plinko on Stake, his reactions and comments are what all of us think when we play, but we think it's only happening to us; which is "If this is a game based off pure math with no manipulation, then I must be the unluckiest person in the world as it is straight impossible to play as many balls as I have over this many hours, and the only thing that hits is the 0.2x. If you lucky you will get 130x every 20,000 balls and the 26x which should be hitting fairly regular, is just as rare as the 130x. Just have a play with the simulator and you'll see that the game you are playing is not real hard math Plinko. you've got it spot on with your point that the mathematics don't quite work out. It seems somehow the game works with an overall RTP however rather than based on a seed. My current stats are waaaaay behind on what I should be hitting in terms of 130x drops, with me getting a 130x drop roughly every 8,500 drops. That said, yesterday in a very short session of only a couple thousand drops, I hit 130x four times. I am yet to hit the 1000x in coming close to 79,000 drops... so the maths doesn't quite seem to be in my favour...not in terms of hitting that drop or in terms of the game RTP. Here's two examples of what my games typically look like. Not good at all, and never any profit either! 😞
J-Dawg Posted October 13, 2021 #45 Posted October 13, 2021 100%. The game isn't based off of pure math. People who talk about provably fair, the source code for these games is not open source, the provably fair system proves nothing if you don't know how the program works.
ukstreamer Posted October 14, 2021 #47 Posted October 14, 2021 19 hours ago, J-Dawg said: 100%. The game isn't based off of pure math. People who talk about provably fair, the source code for these games is not open source, the provably fair system proves nothing if you don't know how the program works. provably fair is only for the individual drop, and not for the game overall...right?
J-Dawg Posted October 14, 2021 #48 Posted October 14, 2021 All provably fair does is show you that your client seed + server seed = XXXXX But the program (in this case plinko) could be programmed to drop 99% 0.2 and only drop 130x 0.000001 etc etc etc So it's proves nothing, only that the result that they give you was genuine (as in, they did not change the result) But if you are playing a game which isn't coded to math but to their own algorithm that has you losing 99.9999% of the time..........you get me.
xrflive Posted October 14, 2021 #49 Posted October 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, J-Dawg said: All provably fair does is show you that your client seed + server seed = XXXXX But the program (in this case plinko) could be programmed to drop 99% 0.2 and only drop 130x 0.000001 etc etc etc So it's proves nothing, only that the result that they give you was genuine (as in, they did not change the result) But if you are playing a game which isn't coded to math but to their own algorithm that has you losing 99.9999% of the time..........you get me. Sorry for being mean, but you are saying a lot of bullshits here 😂 It's impossible for them to "program" a seed, as every bet outcome is generated by their seed (which is not visible) plus your seed (client seed). If you would change client seed, you get a completely different result. Plus, it's explained properly how every bet is calculated Thanks to their guide, I was able to replicate the code for their stake originals game and verify results by myself. Every bet result is based on the following math:
J-Dawg Posted October 25, 2021 #50 Posted October 25, 2021 Did you run the simulator? Listen, provably fair means nothing, is the code open source? No. The player has already been compromised before it even reaches that section. Anyway, best part is knowing you've just spammed a ton of money away thinking you're smart. Back of line, you ain't cute.
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