Rant: Bonus Amounts & How to Win the $50k Weekly Raffle

[nikowin88]

On 7/24/2021 at 8:01 PM, PaScal161616 said:

I tend to see recurring winners; players who win one week have also won in the past. (I understand this is statistically possible-- high rollers earn considerably more tickets.) It begs the question, however, which is: how are the winners actually chosen? Could I ever win $5000, really?

I ask because I sacrifice very good bonuses (offered by other casinos) by playing on Stake. This is probably an unwise decision but I do so under the assumption that I have at least some chance at receiving commensurate compensation with respect to my wagering/ deposit/ and losing percentage figures. If I lose $3000/week (and after wagering 20-30x), does it really seem fair to receive like $9 weekly and $20 in rake?  I mean, I'm given 15% in bonuses straight up at another site but receive only like 1% here on Stake. Why am I playing here at all? 

To add: I request a one-time goodwill bonus from Stake staff and am either ignored or denied outright. Doesn't Stake care about long-term customer retention & satisfaction? 

Hi there

I don't know what's your vip rank, but i would have several thing to reply : 

first thing is you didn't took in count monthly bonus. If you wager what you said you were month after month , one day you will have nic e vip rank which will entitle you to a consequent monthly bonus, for life, and even if you stop wagering ever ( I'm plat 2 and lately i wager less than 2k per week but yet i receive at least 50$ each month ( plus at least 10$ weekly which makes almost 100$ per month )

And these bonuses are withdrawable straighly, without any wagering requirements. That why I'm not ok when you say you sacrifice bonus from other casinos. Most other casinos i know require 20 to 30 times wagering of your deposit. Let's say you deposit 1000$ and get a 50% bonus you would need to wager 30000 to 45000 $ before thinking to withdraw .. and in my experience this is very unlikely to happen.

then last advice : dont look for raffle which are like races very hard to win and unreliable but aim for forum challenge which can give you weekly a nice prize , between sports, casino, and vip there's at least 5 weekly challenges and all of them are valuable to achieve. Then maybe one day with a huge luck you will have a win on raffle.

and lastly about asking for good will bonus, stake has strict rules for this, they often gives such bonuses but you need to have wagered , deposited and losed some $ , if they said no to you today it doesn't mean they won't say yes next month for example. 

I Have been on many casinos and have never found many that have better Bondi program than stake. There's might be one or two but no more than that !

[GoldenMagnet]

 

21 minutes ago, fratdnz said:

❌ What I'm talking about is neither charity nor donation.

 

Ok. You are the owner the crypto casino. I am the gambler.

I have done 1million$ deposit. And "reward pool will be active" i.e. 1050000$.

Right away I "requested withdraw an amount from his account"

On the next day even same day, your casino ceases to exist 

[fratdnz]

4 minutes ago, GoldenMagnet said:

24 minutes ago, fratdnz said:

 

Ok. You are the owner the crypto casino. I am the gambler.

I have done 1million$ deposit. And "reward pool will be active" i.e. 1050000$.

Right away I "requested withdraw an amount from his account"

On the next day even same day, your casino ceases to exist 

I clearly explained that your deposit needs to be fully wagered + you have deadline to claim your reward after your deposit. And any of your withdrawal activity during the term, deactivating your eligibility to achieve your additional reward.

If you deposit $1million, you need to wager it fully in a limited time period to achieve additional %5 in this scenario, which is massively risky thing for you to do.  

Biggest two online sportsbook in the market has this program, they are not bankrupting opposing to that they are leading the market and profiting, as if you like to claim your reward, they are pushing you to wager all your deposit at least one time in a limited time without withdrawing anything, and pushing the psychology of the customer by showing "look you have 5% more, don't worry to go all in". 

Typically, above explained point system is ideal retention program for over 25-30 aged, working regularly during weekdays that has only time to gamble during the weekend. This type of consumers has no patience to wager with tiny amounts, tends to go all-in as their free time is limited.  

 I will not surprise if Stake offer above point plan for their new UK launch, as one of the sportsbook that I mentioned above is leading UK site.

 

[GoldenMagnet]

possibly, you heard about an english idiom of  "to be worlds apart"

7 minutes ago, fratdnz said:

If you deposit $1million, you need to wager it fully in a limited time period to achieve additional %5 in this scenario, which is massively risky thing for you to do.  

I assure you crypto casinos with such conditions exist but on-line is 200-300 people... Feel the difference?

It's much more complicated than you might imagine.

I do not think that all decisions on the implementation of any ideas for the development and attraction of players are made such as H-mmm well shouldn't we make a 5% deposit bonus for UK launch?

Much more serious https://stake.com/watford, because this is a business.

 

 

 

[fratdnz]

10 minutes ago, GoldenMagnet said:

possibly, you heard about an english idiom of  "to be worlds apart"

54 minutes ago, fratdnz said:

If you deposit $1million, you need to wager it fully in a limited time period to achieve additional %5 in this scenario, which is massively risky thing for you to do.  

I assure you crypto casinos with such conditions exist but on-line is 200-300 people... Feel the difference?

It's much more complicated than you might imagine.

I do not think that all decisions on the implementation of any ideas for the development and attraction of players are made such as H-mmm well shouldn't we make a 5% deposit bonus for UK launch?

Much more serious https://stake.com/watford, because this is a business.

 

I am talking about worlds two biggest online sportsbook that one of them has a name on Italy's Serie A (whole league's international brand name) itself. You saying me 200-300 people....

Congratulations man on your business, there is no point to discuss further with you.

[murugan]

Depanding on your luck

[dupeddonk]

12 hours ago, fratdnz said:

Actually online casinos and online sportsbooks in the market do value players by putting much weight into how much they won or lost. 

I can't speak for how sportsbooks approach things, but for casino players, with the rare exception of players that hit a massive, life changing win, this is not true.  At least not for any major casino or a casino of any size that's run by someone with experience in the industry.

Valuing a player based on how much they're up or down doesn't make sense  since the reason their up or down is, in most cases, just luck - something neither the player or casino are responsible for.  The most valuable players are the ones that consistently wager.  The more the better, and if they play higher HE games, even better.  (The guys you see winning the giveaway every week, those are the most valuable players to stake)  They will have winning streaks and losing streaks, as long as they keep wagering their value to the casino will not be affected.

[lindaslots]

You need a luck 

[BAB05]

Combine a prayer + patience=luck

 

[ByteMeTwice]

On 7/25/2021 at 1:17 AM, stuckmojo said:

^^^best post ever please listen to this guy......i think they need to cap the number of tickets i had 100 and thats not jack squat but I still felt.luke maybe I had a chance but when you've got 1000s of tickets 100 ain't shit

Try visiting a live casino, sit beside a high roller for 2-3 minutes.  Call the pit boss and ask him to comp you a suite next door, or similar to the one the high roller has.. 

On 7/24/2021 at 7:07 PM, Rantly said:

The raffle winners are chosen weekly on the streams stake does, They use googles random number generator to pick the winners.

Saying that....

On 7/24/2021 at 11:46 PM, radesanoob said:

pre recorded chrome tab loaded into obs would not be out of question, easy to re render the video with a different source code with desired winners, but i guess thats me speaking with my tinfoil hat on. though easily done

just to add, todays draw was either eddies "mate" or an account created today which was extremely sus'

It would be hard to convince me that the google random number draws are actually drawn "live"

I have consistently ask eddie to put up a thumb, or scratch his head etc to prove it's live.. but these requests are ignored.

Then again Eddie ignores me all the time, this could mean nothing.

 Not sure if anyone else has notice this, but it seems to be a bit more than a coincidence that Eddie's feed drops just before the $5k draws begin (this would allow a pre-recorded  draw to be switched on)

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist or what ever, but if it walks like a duck & talks like a duck.. It must be a giraffe..

All this coming from a guy that got selected twice 2 weeks ago,,, oh dear

[Dandi999]

I'm a beginner, I need to learn many ways to play and will try to level up as soon as possible

[Cihuy998]

oh, i just found out about this promotion, i'm new so i'm looking

[Losingdough]

On 7/28/2021 at 6:57 AM, ByteMeTwice said:

Call me a conspiracy theorist or what ever, but if it walks like a duck & talks like a duck.. It must be a giraffe..

All this coming from a guy that got selected twice 2 weeks ago,,, oh dear

this my friend might just be the funiest thing ive heard in stake forum! I had a really good, from the gut , laugh! thank you for that , much  needed.

 

[Leko]

stake has great bonuses and promotions if you play smart

[Taldarin]

It all comes down to luck & amount of tickets.

A bronze can (and has a few times) win the $5,000.00, but the majority of the winners will be those who wager the most.

I tend to get between 150 - 250 tickets per month, and I'm a small fish. There's guys out there (non affiliated) who are wagering millions every month. So there's dudes with thousands of tickets that have a higher chance to win. And that $5k is 2-3 bets for them, so it's a drop in the ocean. But that's how it works.

[Flchris]

It's all RNG at the end..