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Chat Rain & it's Algorithm


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Hello stake Team and Members...

As a member I want to say that this is really not fair that I never catch any rain or tip for wagering 3k and being active.

I saw lot of users who catch rain and tips more than two times in a hour or a day, but I never caught it. They say it's about luck, if it's about luck then what the requirement is for.?? If we can not catch a rain with wagering more than $3k then what is the point.? 

In real life I am personally very lucky, But in stake I haven't this much luck to receive a single rain??  It's impossible.. and it shows that this rain algorithm is not working fairly.

What's the point that a user catch the rain multiple times a day and another don't catch a single time while being active.??

I want the stake team to change this rain-bot algorithm, Because Every user has the right to receive rain after wagering $3,000 

I request the Members to ask for changing this rain rules in the Comments, if they have never received a rain or tip like me.

and I want answer from Stake Team on this Topic.

Best Regards... 

upHolder

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1 hour ago, upHolder said:

Hello stake Team and Members...

As a member I want to say that this is really not fair that I never catch any rain or tip for wagering 3k and being active.

I saw lot of users who catch rain and tips more than two times in a hour or a day, but I never caught it. They say it's about luck, if it's about luck then what the requirement is for.?? If we can not catch a rain with wagering more than $3k then what is the point.? 

In real life I am personally very lucky, But in stake I haven't this much luck to receive a single rain??  It's impossible.. and it shows that this rain algorithm is not working fairly.

What's the point that a user catch the rain multiple times a day and another don't catch a single time while being active.??

I want the stake team to change this rain-bot algorithm, Because Every user has the right to receive rain after wagering $3,000 

I request the Members to ask for changing this rain rules in the Comments, if they have never received a rain or tip like me.

and I want answer from Stake Team on this Topic.

Best Regards... 

upHolder

 

 

 

so the system itself is broken. you can't ask someone to wager 3000$ and him to except a rain of 0.001$. it's broken, it's fucked. these are the normal words that should be used.

the moment stake actually rased the bar to 3000$ made it useless. 

but whats a better system? no rain? perhaps actually yes.no chat? ya sure, we have the forum. simply as that.

seriously, and no kidding now, the moment they raised it they made it so unbarable that is actually a humility process to anyone which is actually even considering receiving it.

2 minutes ago, mementomori said:

It's random and it's all about luck. No need to change the algorithm, relax.

there's no proof of, i remember being many requests here on forum and off forum for the rain bot to actually have a public or at least part of it open source, for us to see, how it goes.

the way rain bot goes, its only based on what stakes says: its random. sometimes within 1 hour, or 30 minutes, how much is the activity set, you can actually check yourself.

count every unique user who writes. be there when there are 3-4 rains of 25 users, usually within 30 minutes there are arround 200 users with messages, the chance of being missed in 4 rains is 26.39%, thats for 200, but what if there are 100? the chance of being missed goes under 12%, but there will be users who did not text in the last 2 hours to get a rain. it happened to me. i said hi at 8 am while i start gambling and at 1 pm i got a rain.

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Its my understanding that if u are solely chatting for rain u will have less chances

 

How u ask ? I believe if your messages have certain words in them u are not considered for rain/your chances are lowered.

 

This is just my intuition from the small clues from eddie in chat sometimes(he could be trolling/joking)

 

so i would advise to just chat normally, also if u are in english chat i hope u realise there are thousands of users there any time

Posted

it's a randomized Queue system. 

 

if eligible for rain (past 7 days >3k wagered)

AND been active in chat in last 30 minutes

 

you are eligible in the rng rain queue.

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, iulianbutanu said:

but whats a better system? no rain? perhaps actually yes.no chat? ya sure, we have the forum. simply as that.

seriously, and no kidding now, the moment they raised it they made it so unbarable that is actually a humility process to anyone which is actually even considering receiving it.

Just close chat.  Seriously.  If watching other people get lucky bothers you so much, you don't have to look.

Posted
59 minutes ago, Ghostnipple said:

The forum is a legitimate and valuable source of feedback for the stake team.

Players pay for the service that they receive, they pay the staff wages, they pay for the servers, the development costs, the bonuses, the marketing and advertising, the promotions and they pay the affiliate commission. Remove the players from stake and what is left? 


The players are the biggest investor in stake and at the very least they are entitled to voice their concerns. 

Agree.  If someone said 'the forum is unbearable, they should get rid of it' I'd suggest they simply stop reading the forum as a better solution than getting rid of it. 

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Posted

Rain is small bonus from other users. It's luck to get it, but in casino luck is everything. If you're active users, that small bonuses is just another free money that you can get. Better don't think about it much, and just have fun in casino. That's why we are here. Are we not?

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On 11/2/2021 at 3:44 AM, mementomori said:

It's random and it's all about luck. No need to change the algorithm, relax.

There is no proof of being random, so please don't use such words which has no proof.

On 11/2/2021 at 4:15 AM, jerrahmaya said:

Its my understanding that if u are solely chatting for rain u will have less chances

 

How u ask ? I believe if your messages have certain words in them u are not considered for rain/your chances are lowered.

 

This is just my intuition from the small clues from eddie in chat sometimes(he could be trolling/joking)

 

so i would advise to just chat normally, also if u are in english chat i hope u realise there are thousands of users there any time

Thanks for sharing you opinion/idea 

I want to tell you that I never asked for rain, and I do chat normal.. so that isn't the point :)

On 11/2/2021 at 9:34 AM, Ghostnipple said:

The forum is a legitimate and valuable source of feedback for the stake team.

Players pay for the service that they receive, they pay the staff wages, they pay for the servers, the development costs, the bonuses, the marketing and advertising, the promotions and they pay the affiliate commission. Remove the players from stake and what is left? 


The players are the biggest investor in stake and at the very least they are entitled to voice their concerns. 

Thank you so much for giving him the great and wisely answer. I don't need to tell him anymore than this (your answer) 

Idiots need to know this... +Thanks! :)

On 11/2/2021 at 10:42 AM, mistaker said:

Rain is small bonus from other users. It's luck to get it, but in casino luck is everything. If you're active users, that small bonuses is just another free money that you can get. Better don't think about it much, and just have fun in casino. That's why we are here. Are we not?

@mistaker you are saying it's about luck in casino, of course luck is everything ,But only for the casino games, Not For chat rain,

Because luck is proved for games but where is the Proof of luck for chat Rain? Can you show us.? can you tell me, what makes luck for the rain? And show a part of its open source? So we can see how it goes??

& You say "Better don't think about it much"

You should not say this as a Moderator mate... Because in my point of view, every active and qualified users for rain should be deserves to catch rain from Stake. So why should I not think about it if I'm qualified and active in chat?? am I not a user.??

at last..  can you Tell me what is the 3k requirement is for, to wager and stay active in chat.? for what is it.?? To catch a rain, right.???

On 11/2/2021 at 11:39 AM, eissey said:

the whole time i was waiting i never recieved any.. is it my account or really me whos not lucky

 

No.. don't think you are unlucky buddy, because there are a lot of more users like you who think this way, but I think the thing is they don't care about qualified users for rain and they run it so unfairly... chill :)

On 11/2/2021 at 12:05 PM, adwam1 said:

dont think too much about that man, chat rain just is a small bonus from other Stakers, just enjoy if u got it and chill if not 😁

Seriously I don't care about rain, and even I don't chat everytime/everyday, But you know what? Sometimes when I lost all my money and I want to go to chatroom to catch a rain, i won't... and it makes me lil angry for why I dont catch it.  LOL...

otherwise I don't care or think about it at all mate... +chilll... ;-)

  • Moderator
Posted

Proof of luck for chat Rain ?? @upHolder

 

I don't see how to do it with any luck - i don't think such thing even exist. 

 

Just think about how many users can be picked? I think a lot. Well i wish you luck with any random bonuses. I think i can end that this really cool quote.

"Success Is Never Final and Failure Never Fatal. It’s Courage That Counts"

🍀

Posted

Okay @mistaker 

You just answered one part of my questions lol, But

Now that you agree that there is not such thing exist to proof the luck for rain, I will close this topic..

Because Luck is only for Casino games, Not Chatroom..

Just give this comment of me a like and I will close this topic and I will delete it.

+Nice quote 

Posted

This seems like a reasonable place to put a suggestion for chat. Two small tweaks might take some of the stressnott the chat. 

1) info banner that is updated periodically so that the same question isn't asked 700 times. "Evolution gaming isn't working. Anyone else having problems?" I've read this almost as many times as I've seen(and subsequently ignored) beggar posts. A data banner floating at the bottom cleans up the needless and repetitive questioning.

As for making it rain and the torrent of "thank you, oOOOemGeee cee is for cookie, you're a legend." How about it rains and the thank yous are automated in the data banner.

I'm an idea guy. I don't know if they'll be any good. But that's for you to decide.

Posted

Okay so, obviously anything anyone says on this topic is based on opinions they've developed based on what they've seen etc...

Things I've noticed....

being active in chat most people assume this means posting in chat at constant pace as in something like 10 messages every 20-30 minutes... But I've seen people catch rain that I can't even recall saying anything. And I've noticed when I'm popping in and out of chat I've been more successful than when I'm Carrying on conversations consistently. Which leads me to believe that those who send 5 messages spread out through 30 minutes are more likely to receive rain than someone posting closer to 15-20 messages in 30 minutes.

-And this would also lead me to believe that if you've been talking in English chat for the last few hours, and then you post 1-3 messages in Sports chat, and shortly after someone rains... You are not eligible for this rain, because you've not been active in that chat. But if the rain had been done in English, you would have still been eligible even if you switched and posted those quick messages before switching back... because you've been largely active in that chat...

Aside from all that, I do believe there's a little bit of a "glitch" that stake should look into, but I don't expect that to happen either.

I was in the challenge room one day, and there was about 8or9 of us, actively participatibg in a challenge for awhile.... and someone rained, as a motivation or something... They chose 15 people or something... When the rain came... Only 6 people were hit... Despite the other 3(including myself) having been eligible... There was no legit reason why the rainbot only chose 6 when there were at least 10 and the person who did the rain entered that many... 

One Of the other 2 that had been "ignored" by the rain and myself both refreshed the page, and when they did another rain shortly after.... We were one of the ones the bot hit this time. However, the other person was still ignored by it... And awhile later, after refreshing just to find out... the 3rd person was also able to catch. Haha

So basically I think that aside from wagering 3k+ in the last 7days, you should 

Avoid saying certain keywords like rain, catcher etc that might be flagged by stake as "disqualifiers"

Be steadily active, as in post something close to 5-10 times thoughout each hour and refresh the page every now and then. 

GoooodLuckk!

Btw:: Rain is not guaranteed or even promised to us by stake. It is a chance that is given to us by other bettors that have had some luck or just feel like sharing. None of us are entitled to catch it. Just like none of us are required to provide it either. If catching rain is the only reason you are wagering/in chat, then you might be in the wrong place. I will however say it does suck to rip whole balances, and despite being eligible, it seems like rain misses you everytime when you need it most... Just be glad you didn't wager 3k+ then rip... While muted. That Rain chance just shot straight to 0. Haha

Posted
On 11/2/2021 at 5:29 AM, upHolder said:

Hello stake Team and Members...

As a member I want to say that this is really not fair that I never catch any rain or tip for wagering 3k and being active.

I saw lot of users who catch rain and tips more than two times in a hour or a day, but I never caught it. They say it's about luck, if it's about luck then what the requirement is for.?? If we can not catch a rain with wagering more than $3k then what is the point.? 

In real life I am personally very lucky, But in stake I haven't this much luck to receive a single rain??  It's impossible.. and it shows that this rain algorithm is not working fairly.

What's the point that a user catch the rain multiple times a day and another don't catch a single time while being active.??

I want the stake team to change this rain-bot algorithm, Because Every user has the right to receive rain after wagering $3,000 

I request the Members to ask for changing this rain rules in the Comments, if they have never received a rain or tip like me.

and I want answer from Stake Team on this Topic.

Best Regards... 

upHolder

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Maybe it’s all fair… as you said, you’re very lucky in real life.

Perhaps the players that catch rain often have insanely bad luck IRL.

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