Zamia2001 Posted October 24, 2022 #26 Posted October 24, 2022 damn think they discovered you did multiple violations...
Featured Comment dupeddonk Posted October 24, 2022 Featured Comment #27 Posted October 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, Palamar123 said: Sometimes odd providers give too good odds for some games. So i took those opportunities and thats what stunna meant. I've had several accounts. Every bet had different limits sometimes $500,$1000 etc. I wanted to bet more. I won around $51-52k. Here's what Stunna actually said: Quote When you sign up for Stake you agree to a series of terms and conditions, these conditions are broad but are put in place to prevent abuse. Every betting account is given their own limits, when your limits were reduced you started making additional accounts and providing false documents not belonging to you in an attempt to defraud us. You even went on Stake chat and made offers to buy accounts that had limits over $10k on specific sports. None of this was recreational action, you amassed at minimum 15 accounts and used these to profit significantly off your "value bets" which you also offered to sell to other chatters. Primarily having access to a faster feed on the french open and cashing out at points of value right before an odd swing was a great strategy for you . When placing that same bet across 15 account you were able to make these "value bets" very profitable as it was a positive expected value initiative for you, you even offered to sell these bets given how confident you were in them. We have a right to refuse action from players like you which we did, you were able to get your money out on your initial accounts. Then you continued to buy and make accounts and we continued to limit but you kept buying or farming more accounts. On just Palamar (OP's account) you earned profit of $53k using "value bets".
Stakerocker Posted October 24, 2022 #30 Posted October 24, 2022 Can I have email of Stunna to contact him?
skleven Posted October 24, 2022 #31 Posted October 24, 2022 Eddie said a while back that it had to be a serious violation of TOC to have your funds frozen. Like cheating / match fixing. Most other issues puts accounts in withdawal mode only.
jungl3 Posted October 24, 2022 #32 Posted October 24, 2022 Takes advantage of loopholes to make money. Sounds an awful lot like Stake's origin and continued existence. On the one hand, we have a guy who has probably bought a house and provided for his family. On the other, we have a handful of people who have become exceedingly wealthy off of the back of everyday people who are never stopped from depositing, no matter how many new accounts they create. They aren't limited in their action when they're losing the shirt off their back. Give the man his $28k and fix your tennis feed issue in an ethical way. Congratulate him for beating you.
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #33 Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, jungl3 said: Takes advantage of loopholes to make money. Sounds an awful lot like Stake's origin and continued existence. On the one hand, we have a guy who has probably bought a house and provided for his family. On the other, we have a handful of people who have become exceedingly wealthy off of the back of everyday people who are never stopped from depositing, no matter how many new accounts they create. They aren't limited in their action when they're losing the shirt off their back. Give the man his $28k and fix your tennis feed issue in an ethical way. Congratulate him for beating you. Yes I completely agree with your opinion. I did bet on matches that gave me good odds, but i did that by using odds that stake provided me. If i would have lost 50k+ I am sure i wouldn't have even gotten disabled, but since i have won and some matches were +EV for me i got disabled and my balance fully locked. Ok i agree i broke rules and i should not be allowed to play anymore, they can block my action but they shouldn't be able to take away my deposit + winnings. Pay me out ant let me move on.
skleven Posted October 24, 2022 #34 Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ratu07 said: talk to admin via live chat He can do that. But he can also knock on his neighbours door and ask him for help. The result is the same. Stake.com does not have any support until you hit Plat 4 and get a VIP-host.
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #35 Posted October 24, 2022 4 hours ago, skleven said: He can do that. But he can also knock on his neighbours door and ask him for help. The result is the same. Stake.com does not have any support until you hit Plat 4 and get a VIP-host. I have plat 4 and still they are not even allowing me to get my money out. So i risked my money and i won and i cant take it out but if it was the other way around i guarantee you i would still have access until i would win and then get disabled. Cmon guys this is unfair...
Hamil14 Posted October 24, 2022 #36 Posted October 24, 2022 What is your account VIP progress and Verification level ?
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #37 Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hamil14 said: What is your account VIP progress and Verification level ? PLAT IV VIP and Level 4 Verification done All the money i have wagered and even then i cant even get the decency to take my money out
Snickers Posted October 24, 2022 #38 Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hamil14 said: What is your account VIP progress and Verification level ? He already answered all of that. Having 15+ accounts to work around betting limits is against the tos and of course they will block your account, esspecially when you are smart enough to withdraw to the same wallet addresses. You got greedy and got caught, if you place the same bets on several accounts thats not the best idea.
SheldonCooper Posted October 24, 2022 #39 Posted October 24, 2022 9 hours ago, skleven said: Eddie said a while back that it had to be a serious violation of TOC to have your funds frozen. Like cheating / match fixing. Most other issues puts accounts in withdawal mode only. but this is very serious violation dude.. making 15 accounts to place bets for more money then set as max on 1 account and to bet on both sites to make profit..
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #40 Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, SheldonCooper said: but this is very serious violation dude.. making 15 accounts to place bets for more money then set as max on 1 account and to bet on both sites to make profit.. I did use multiple accounts. Betting on both sites? What does that mean? All i did was bet on same exact match same result but from several accounts because there was limit on how much you can bet per account on that same bet and i wanted to bet bigger amounts.
SheldonCooper Posted October 24, 2022 #41 Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Palamar123 said: PLAT IV VIP and Level 4 Verification done All the money i have wagered and even then i cant even get the decency to take my money out just be happy about the profit you did mange to make and withdraw seriously doubt you are down from this despite having this money locked up for good.. you had made more then 15+ accounts to cheat and violate toc.. just let it go allready.. 4 minutes ago, Palamar123 said: I did use multiple accounts. Betting on both sites? What does that mean? All i did was bet on same exact match same result but from several accounts because there was limit on how much you can bet per account on that same bet and i wanted to bet bigger amounts. what you should have done was to sign up on difrent sites all sites insteed of making 15 accounts on 1 site pretty much all sites a a rules saying you may only have 1 account..
Bimfo Posted October 24, 2022 #42 Posted October 24, 2022 Are you people telling me that I cannot have different accounts on stake and I must stick to one?
Shaque Posted October 24, 2022 #43 Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bimfo said: Are you people telling me that I cannot have different accounts on stake and I must stick to one? Yes.
bettina Posted October 24, 2022 #44 Posted October 24, 2022 if u were abusing the system i guess nothing can be done... dont even waste ur time
dupeddonk Posted October 24, 2022 #45 Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Palamar123 said: All i did was bet on same exact match same result but from several accounts because there was limit on how much you can bet per account on that same bet and i wanted to bet bigger amounts. All you did was cheat. It's really that simple.
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #46 Posted October 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, dupeddonk said: All you did was cheat. It's really that simple. I cheated by creating too many accounts and placing more bets then 1 account allowed. That's true. I didn't know that at the time of doing so. I was risking my own money just more of it then 1 single account allowed. Sure I agree with that and they can disable me but keeping all my money is UNFAIR.
Palamar123 Posted October 24, 2022 Author #47 Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, octoberk3 said: send them mail man I already did bro many times. No solution. Haven't had response in over month now.
orbul Posted October 24, 2022 #49 Posted October 24, 2022 It honestly seems unfair that they’ve held your money for this long and won’t let you have it back. I understand that you violated the rules and I agree that you should be rightfully banned, but stake holding your money is a different scenario and truly a big deal (unless the money sitting in your account was made from an exploit or through cheating the system, which I still don’t clearly understand what exactly you did to be banned) I think that stake should just release your funds and never allow you to play on the casino again. I know accounts get put into withdrawal only mode but I’ve never seen this before.
dupeddonk Posted October 24, 2022 #50 Posted October 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, Palamar123 said: I cheated by creating too many accounts and placing more bets then 1 account allowed. That's true. I didn't know that at the time of doing so. I was risking my own money just more of it then 1 single account allowed. Sure I agree with that and they can disable me but keeping all my money is UNFAIR. While you were sending in fake documents you didn't know that you were doing something against the rules? When you were offering to buy other players accounts with higher limits, you didn't know you were doing something wrong? They paid you already when you were first caught and then you kept doing it. You didn't think you were doing anything wrong? According to Stunna: Quote We have a right to refuse action from players like you which we did, you were able to get your money out on your initial accounts. Then you continued to buy and make accounts and we continued to limit but you kept buying or farming more accounts.
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