Cyril2LE

Nice hope there will be a leaderboard ahah, hope I will bust you mister streamer !

Hi, just to ask if there is a possibility to add new MTT to the evening grill ? Like for Western Europe there is only one $50 and it finishes way too late, in average 2am. I think it could be very good to try a $100 bounty or $50 one around 7/8pm, quite sure the guarantee could be reached every time and would bring more people to play. Thanks in advance !

Thanks to JessD26 things changed and Stake send me a compensation as an excuse and I thank them. I saw yesterday that the leaderboard closed at 23h59 UTC as expected so this bug and this post might not be relevant anymore. I'm sorry again for having to post these serious accusations, but I had no other way to make myself heard.

STAKE : All In or Fold Leaderboard: A Series of Bugs That Scammed Me Out of $1,300+ I have been playing the All In or Fold format on Stake for the past 10 days, which has featured a daily leaderboard offering rakeback rewards. I am writing this post to document what happened to me in detail, because I believe it constitutes a scam, and I have the screenshots to prove it. BUG 1 : The AFK Exploit (Days 1 to 4) The original scoring system was based solely on the number of hands played per day. Within the first few days, players discovered they could sit at a table, go AFK, and still be counted as active, accumulating leaderboard points without paying a single cent in rake or risking any money. I personally reported this bug. It was only patched 2 days after my report, meaning exploiters were still able to play the following day and collect their leaderboard rewards without consequences. No compensation was issued by Stake. I lost a minimum of $320 from this first bug alone. On Day 3 or 4, I had already played around 100 to 200 hands and was comfortably sitting in the Top 10. I had no reason to keep grinding, yet fraudulent players above me had not paid a single dollar in rake. BUG 2 : Leaderboard Closing Time Violation After the fix, the scoring changed to: hands played multiplied by rake per hand. According to Stake's own Terms and Conditions, the daily leaderboard ends at 23:59 UTC, which is 01:59 AM in my country. Incident 1 : approximately $400 lost After playing over 5,000 hands, I had secured 1st place in the $20 leaderboard at 01:50 AM, with roughly 300 points ahead of 2nd place (dbx) and around 1,000 points ahead of 3rd place (formulasnaps). I decided to stop playing. At maximum efficiency, 6 short-handed tables, a player can complete approximately 1,200 hands per hour. It is therefore mathematically impossible to gain 1,000 points in 10 minutes. When I checked the leaderboard 20 minutes later, I was no longer 1st. And it was not even dbx who overtook me, it was formulasnaps, the player who had even less mathematical chance of catching me in that timeframe. The screenshot clearly shows the leaderboard's last update occurred at 02:10 AM, 11 minutes after the official closing time. I lost approximately 400 euros, the difference between 1st and 2nd place rewards. Incident 2 : an additional 200+ euros lost A second screenshot shows I then dropped to 3rd place, overtaken by mandms, a player I had a 1,200 point lead over at 02:10 AM. The leaderboard updated again at 03:10 AM, over one full hour after its official end time. Total loss from this single day: approximately 600 euros. The most outrageous part of this entire situation is not even the bug itself, it is Stake's official response to it. When I reported that the leaderboard had updated over an hour past its official closing time, here is what their support team told me: "Our team has reliable processes to ensure all relevant games are accounted for, and this delay does not affect the integrity or outcome of the promotion." Read that again. They are not denying the delay. They are not saying it did not happen. They are openly acknowledging that the leaderboard closed late and telling me, straight to my face, that it does not matter. A promotion with a contractual end time of 23:59 UTC ran past that time, changed the results, cost me hundreds of euros, and their official position is that this has no impact on integrity. If a leaderboard that closes 70 minutes late, allows players to accumulate points they should never have been able to accumulate, and directly alters the final standings does not affect integrity, then I genuinely do not know what does. BUG 3 : Leaderboard Still Active 8+ Hours After Closing After taking a day off, I returned to play the $80 leaderboard, targeting a safe Top 10 finish. At 01:50 AM I was comfortably inside the Top 10, with all remaining active players already sitting in the Top 5, meaning none of them could push me out. The next morning I logged in to find myself in 11th place, eliminated by MoneyOrCash, a player who had only around 2,000 points at 01:50 AM the night before. To verify what was happening, I ran a controlled test. I played against MoneyOrCash at 11:13 AM, more than 8 hours after the leaderboard's official close, and confirmed that hands were still being counted on Day 10's leaderboard. Above we have the points before the hands, and below after the hands we played with MoneyOrCash. What made it even worse: those same hands were simultaneously being counted on Day 11's leaderboard. This means players who grind through the night can have their hands registered in two separate daily leaderboards at the same time. To be clear about what "closing time" actually means in practice here: the leaderboard does not end at 23:59 UTC as stated in the terms. It ends when Stake distributes the rewards to players, which happened at around 10:00 AM French time this morning. That means the leaderboard was still running and updating for 8 full hours after its supposed deadline, and anyone who kept playing during that window was effectively still competing. That is not a bug, that is a scam. And once again, Stake's support gave me the exact same response: "Our team has reliable processes to ensure all relevant games are accounted for, and this delay does not affect the integrity or outcome of the promotion." The leaderboard is running 8 hours late. Players are double-dipping across two separate daily leaderboards. And Stake's support is telling me this does not affect integrity. I will let that speak for itself. Summary of Losses Bug 1 (AFK exploit): ~$320 Bug 2, Incident 1 (late close): ~400 euros Bug 2, Incident 2 (additional drop): ~200 euros Bug 3 ($80 leaderboard): ~$320 Total: well over $1,300 in documented, provable losses. Despite submitting full screenshots and detailed explanations each time, Stake's support has refused to engage with the substance of my complaints. Every single response has been a variation of the same dismissal. No investigation, no escalation, no compensation, nothing. This is not a variance issue. This is not bad luck. Every loss described above was caused directly by a technical malfunction that contradicts Stake's own terms and conditions, and the evidence is there for anyone to see. I am not writing this expecting to recover my money. I am writing this to warn every player in this community: do not play this format as long as these bugs exist. The leaderboard does not close when it says it does. Players can accumulate points hours after the official cutoff, sometimes all night, and Stake's support will tell you everything is working as intended. I genuinely hope that the relationship between players and support can improve going forward. Right now it feels like a wall,every complaint is met with the same copy-paste response and zero actual engagement. I will add also, that now the leaderboard doesn't count anymore, you can see on the following screen that I am top 5: So now the question is do I win $237 or $203 ? Wrong answer only $200. Have a nice day