Is house edge 1% in original games?

[maxisl]

I have been playing on this site for many years and it is no longer called gambling the last year I was depositing 7 times every month and I could not withdrawal a single dollar

Since i registered I have been losing streak and you can never see the green in the stake games 

green has turned into mission impossible

 

 

On the original games explanation page, you will see that a game like Dice has an RTP rate of 99%, while house edge is 1%

 

When you ask the support team about RTP, they will tell you 1 million bets as a minimum

 

and when you tell them that you have played more than 2 million bets they will tell you that RTP is calculated on billions of bets and is calculated for all players

 

So this means that the house edge is not 1% because it is calculated on billions and that RTP is just a deceptive marketing title

 

Since there is no real rate for house edge, this has become clear to all players

 

Are RTPs of Stake staff (such as streamers, actors, and bots on social media platforms)

counted as player RTPs?

 

This is legally not possible because they are employees of Stake like ( Adin Ross Train syztmz ) 

 

Stake should clarify on the games page that Stake staff RTP (streamers and paid actors) is not counted into players RTP

 

Stake should correct the phrase "house edge 1%" and write that it is calculated on billions of bets.

 

Stake should show data on RTP every month without taking into account amounts related to employees and streamers (Adin Ross Train  Roshtin and others ) 

 

Calculating streamers' salaries from RTP players is illegal and not up for discussion

 

 

Stake must address all these points as soon as possible

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2025 by maxisl

[Xylber]

The RTP is calculated mathematically, it is a matter of probability and statistics, and it is not affected by other players outcome from the perspective of each player.

For example, a coin flip has a winning probability of 50%, if you play once, you'll either win or lose (100% or 0%), if you play twice it could be winning both, win and lose, or lose both (100%, 50%, 0%).... but if you keep playing to the infinite, it is "mathematically" expected that you win and lose the same amount of times. It doesn't matter if other people are winning or losing.

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The RTP in casinos (including Stake) is not based in outcomes, but in payment.

If you play the coin flip two times with 1usd (total bet is 2usd), and you win one time (+1usd extra) and lose one time (-1usd), you end up with 0% house edge, and the same amount of money you started with.

But if you play the coin flip two times with 1usd (total bet is 2usd), and you win one time (+0.98usd extra) and lose one time (-1usd), you end up with 1% house edge, and 0.98usd instead of 1usd. The casino won 1% house edge (2 cents of 2usd total bet).

Edited August 11, 2025 by Xylber

[maxisl]

13 hours ago, Xylber said:

The RTP is calculated mathematically, it is a matter of probability and statistics, and it is not affected by other players outcome from the perspective of each player.

For example, a coin flip has a winning probability of 50%, if you play once, you'll either win or lose (100% or 0%), if you play twice it could be winning both, win and lose, or lose both (100%, 50%, 0%).... but if you keep playing to the infinite, it is "mathematically" expected that you win and lose the same amount of times. It doesn't matter if other people are winning or losing.

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The RTP in casinos (including Stake) is not based in outcomes, but in payment.

If you play the coin flip two times with 1usd (total bet is 2usd), and you win one time (+1usd extra) and lose one time (-1usd), you end up with 0% house edge, and the same amount of money you started with.

But if you play the coin flip two times with 1usd (total bet is 2usd), and you win one time (+0.98usd extra) and lose one time (-1usd), you end up with 1% house edge, and 0.98usd instead of 1usd. The casino won 1% house edge (2 cents of 2usd total bet).

As you can see, this is the support team's explanation

 

There is no specific number for house edge because it depends on all players

Which means that 1% house edge is not a correct number

 

i have been playing only original for 4 years since I registered on this page I only lose the last year I was depositing 5 to 7 deposits every month and every deposit i lost streak i  couldn't withdrawal a single dollar in the last 13 months i started to feel that it's not gambling but donations it doesn't matter what you play or change the strategy because there is no such thing as RTP

 

 

the support team's response is contradictory as shown in the pictures and they do not have a clear answer

 

gambling does not mean that you lose every deposit for more than 4 years and you cannot win anything this is not gambling i played in real casinos and i have never seen anything like this i also played in other sites and I have never seen anything like this

 

i asked other players and their answers were almost 99% of them they did not withdrawal any money for 12 months because of the non-stop losses

 

Another person told me that he did not win he only loses and he did not withdrawal a single penny for 3 years and RTP is not real

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 12, 2025 by maxisl

[Rb7xx1]

houseedge never 1% its like 80% an 20% for player 

[maxisl]

On 8/12/2025 at 5:19 PM, Rb7xx1 said:

houseedge never 1% its like 80% an 20% for player 

 

thats it

[Sirk23]

plz use your Brain ! its 99% but not in 100 or 1000 or 10k Spins ! you need 1Million Spins for 99% RTP !

 

and if you play HIGH risk than maybe you need 2-3 Million Spins

Edited August 16, 2025 by Sirk23

[APPAR3NTLY]

Yes

[maxisl]

2 minutes ago, Sirk23 said:

plz use your Brain ! its 99% but not in 100 or 1000 or 10k Spins ! you need 1Million Spins for 99% RTP !

 

and if you play HIGH risk than maybe you need 2-3 Million Spins

It seems that you did not read well i played more than 2 million spins there are many bots and the lying does not stop

Just now, APPAR3NTLY said:

Yes

 

So why do all the people i asked deny this even though they have more than 4 years of experience with Stake?

[Dcg255]

i think so yes

[Huong1970]

House edge working for whole users, if it is not right with your bet is mean you met bad lucky.

[flystar01]

All these cannot be determined if the casino is not honest about the details of these games 

[maxisl]

Just now, Huong1970 said:

House edge working for whole users, if it is not right with your bet is mean you met bad lucky.

 

about 3 years 😂 and 13 month streak losing lol 

2 minutes ago, flystar01 said:

All these cannot be determined if the casino is not honest about the details of these games 

their answers change every day i don't believe them anymore