Shaniqua Posted November 16, 2018 #1 Posted November 16, 2018 You know how some sites have an investment lock? where it wont let you withdraw or pull out your investment for a x amount of time? well i suggest the same thing to be created in the vault, but it honestly does not need to give any return to the player.. come to think of it.... this will give stake points for being more conscious in terms of looking out for the user's well being oh yes i remembered the word, its called "Better Gambling Practices" or "RESPONSIBLE GAMBLING STANDARDS" or stuff like that.. its the little button u see "Gambling aware" or something on bottom of the site, that is supposed to help us problem gamblers seek help... but that is besides the point....what I am suggesting is that the vault have a TIME lock option if you know what i mean. having a time lock will help users manage their weekly or monthly balance they wish to allocate to gambling... a sophisticated time lock would be better than normal time lock, such as time lock to automatically withdraw from vault to balance once a day on x o clock(time) and to do that everyday on that hour.. this way will only let the player play the amount they want per day and not depo and go insane with it... and will help not to bust entire paychecks... makes sense?
williamshennie9 Posted November 16, 2018 #2 Posted November 16, 2018 I like this idea, but I don't think it will be implemented. Stake is a casino, so they want you to spend your balance, not "invest" it. Would be cool if this was implemented though
Kate Posted November 16, 2018 #3 Posted November 16, 2018 Well i had made a suggestion like a similar one like the Funds after Withdrawal from the vault won't be use able for like 24 hours and like umm that seemed like a stupid idea but this one is good if a person is going for a vacation or a trip and he can't access the Stake site at all or he is busy. But umm maybe add a special code so that it like just ignores the date and time so we can withdraw if we need the money urgently for some reasons. I would like this if there was like something like a code like i mentioned or something that we can do or put so we can get the money when needed
Shaniqua Posted November 24, 2018 Author #4 Posted November 24, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 9:40 AM, williamshennie9 said: I like this idea, but I don't think it will be implemented. Stake is a casino, so they want you to spend your balance, not "invest" it. Would be cool if this was implemented though this is not an investing idea, this is a know your limits idea, a saferr gambling idea... "gambling aware:" or whjatnot
davinmark Posted November 24, 2018 #5 Posted November 24, 2018 i think locking the Vault is not really good idea bcoz how if one day we needs an emergency money and we cant withdraw our money because we locks our vault until the specified time ?
wngo123 Posted November 25, 2018 #6 Posted November 25, 2018 Since it's casino maybe they should introduce Vault Lottery. For some amount you could win cash when putting your funds on hold in the vault for specific time
ekzxc Posted November 25, 2018 #7 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 1:40 AM, williamshennie9 said: I like this idea, but I don't think it will be implemented. Stake is a casino, so they want you to spend your balance, not "invest" it. Would be cool if this was implemented though This comment says it all. The bigger your loss, the more you want to recover it. So why would they implement such thing to stop you from your rage, when you're so vulnerable on that stage.
Etude Posted November 25, 2018 #8 Posted November 25, 2018 It does seems like a counter-intuitive suggestion for a casino like a few others has mentioned. 🤔
nuuuitsjdragon Posted November 25, 2018 #9 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 5:40 PM, Shaniqua said: You know how some sites have an investment lock? where it wont let you withdraw or pull out your investment for a x amount of time? well i suggest the same thing to be created in the vault, but it honestly does not need to give any return to the player.. come to think of it.... this will give stake points for being more conscious in terms of looking out for the user's well being oh yes i remembered the word, its called "Better Gambling Practices" or "RESPONSIBLE GAMBLING STANDARDS" or stuff like that.. its the little button u see "Gambling aware" or something on bottom of the site, that is supposed to help us problem gamblers seek help... but that is besides the point....what I am suggesting is that the vault have a TIME lock option if you know what i mean. having a time lock will help users manage their weekly or monthly balance they wish to allocate to gambling... a sophisticated time lock would be better than normal time lock, such as time lock to automatically withdraw from vault to balance once a day on x o clock(time) and to do that everyday on that hour.. this way will only let the player play the amount they want per day and not depo and go insane with it... and will help not to bust entire paychecks... makes sense? This makes a whole lot of sense financially... and is honestly a good suggestion with mostly advantages to boot. There is just one kink I can’t get around... it’s difficult for me to toss financial prudence (abovementioned investment) and gambling (risk-playing) in the same salad bowl... the gears just don’t grind together that well for me. P.S. Just a peeve of mine... suggestion Shaniqua made is still gold though. Reminds me of BV as well 😊
griffinreynolds Posted November 25, 2018 #10 Posted November 25, 2018 Well I don’t think it’s a good idea as others said too Stake wants you to wager and play most of the time to spend your money but I think it could be cool for new accounts if they haven’t made any deposits for example and they get rich so they can’t withdraw their money for X Time or X Date as you said.
Administrator Edward Posted November 26, 2018 Administrator #11 Posted November 26, 2018 In order to make the vault a more viable choice for storing your Bitcoin what features would you like to see potentially added?
Dan Posted November 26, 2018 #12 Posted November 26, 2018 Ability to disable 2fa with 2fa and ability to disable email with email would be great!
irawk0 Posted November 26, 2018 #13 Posted November 26, 2018 I'd like to see it being added to the top of the bar beside account. Right now it's a little out of the way (you have to click deposit>vault). If it were more visible I think it will be easier for new gamblers to see/notice it and use it.
Administrator Edward Posted November 26, 2018 Administrator #14 Posted November 26, 2018 7 hours ago, irawk0 said: I'd like to see it being added to the top of the bar beside account. Right now it's a little out of the way (you have to click deposit>vault). If it were more visible I think it will be easier for new gamblers to see/notice it and use it. Thanks for the suggestion. This has already been more or less implemented in the redesign.
hillowner45 Posted November 26, 2018 #15 Posted November 26, 2018 A function to lock the funds in the vault from ourselves. It would be timed based and we would have the option to set the length of time. So, even if put in all the requirements to unlock the vault, we still won't be able to withdraw. I hope you understand my idea, sorry for my poor articulation LOL. This could of been said in so many less words.
Snike Posted November 27, 2018 #16 Posted November 27, 2018 Yesterday I found myself in a situation which I think might've ended better if I had a little more selfdiscipline and the vault would work a little different. So I was playing high bets with ethereum like 0.01-0.05 per bet and I was winning and winning. Until I got to the point where I put 0.5 eth into the vault and left it there. I busted the rest of my balance and was seeking for some more. I remembered the vault and took like 0.2 or so out of it to play again. I busted and repeated that process until I busted. What I've been thinking now is, that if there was another option for the vault that you like lock it up for an amount of time, lets say 24 hrs. In that time you can't access it, you can only deposit more into it but no withdrawals whatsoever. This would be a neat addition to it to prevent undisciplined gambling pigs, like me, to bust their whole vault without really noticing. What do you think? Does the vault fullfil it's purpose already or does it need to be worked on a little more?
griffinreynolds Posted November 27, 2018 #17 Posted November 27, 2018 Well I’ve saved some money yesterday too it’s helpful, everytime I got some balance I try with low amounts to get a bit profit and then 90% of my profit I deposit on my vault that’s how I’m going now and trying to save some money until I reach a bit high. Or maybe If I win any giveaway in twitch, discord etc I deposit 90% of those giveaways in my vault that’s so helpful and I don’t withdraw anymore from my Vault until I reach a good value and have some profit even If I bust my balance I don’t withdraw. In a word it’s so helpful.
williamshennie9 Posted November 27, 2018 #18 Posted November 27, 2018 At the end of the day, gambling comes down to self control. For me, I can control myself not to gamble when I lose a certain amount (i.e. not chase losses). For others, they might not have the self control, and might use the vault. Some might even have to withdraw to prevent them from playing when they know they shouldn't. I personally think the vault is an awesome addition to Stake, as it provides an alternative option for people to Store their unused coins, and could potentially help with people gambling when they shouldn't.
Sefan Posted November 27, 2018 #19 Posted November 27, 2018 I use the vault to protect the funds, and alos to not bet all my shit away, i depo to the vault then wd what i want to play with then i take out the battery of my phone so i cant acces my 2fa app that easy to withdraw from the vault,
Furlicious Posted November 27, 2018 #20 Posted November 27, 2018 Yeah, i started using the vault the very day when it 1st launched. Thinking i could save up some instead of busting away. Oh Well, i end up having to withdraw multiple times back into my account. Lmao! Hmm.. to comfort myself, at least my games lasted longer than before i guessed. Haha ! Nevertheless i luv this awesome feature! Thank u Stake!
MiracleRolling Posted November 27, 2018 #21 Posted November 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sefan said: I use the vault to protect the funds, and alos to not bet all my shit away, i depo to the vault then wd what i want to play with then i take out the battery of my phone so i cant acces my 2fa app that easy to withdraw from the vault, Yes, i think this function of vault instead of creat new account like "bank account".
Snike Posted November 27, 2018 #22 Posted November 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Furlicious said: Yeah, i started using the vault the very day when it 1st launched. Thinking i could save up some instead of busting away. Oh Well, i end up having to withdraw multiple times back into my account. Lmao! Hmm.. to comfort myself, at least my games lasted longer than before i guessed. Haha ! Nevertheless i luv this awesome feature! Thank u Stake! I'm doing the same 8 hours ago, blurrijs said: I think vault is meant to be there so you can save up money, and not just have it in your balance all the time where you can just bet it any time, where as in the vault you need to withdraw and confirm it in your email to make sure you really want to bet it. I think it was a really good idea to add this so people don't have to make bank accounts and send it to them over chat in public tip and make alot of beggars appear Well the confirmation and stuff takes like 30 seconds for me so it didnt stop me from withdrawing my funds...
davinmark Posted November 27, 2018 #23 Posted November 27, 2018 Well i think maybe they should add a lock option mode. So we have 2 choice that : - Can take the money from vault just using email confirmation or - Can lock the vault until the specified time (So in that time we can't access it)
wyj1306 Posted November 27, 2018 #24 Posted November 27, 2018 My friend, i gone through this situation several times, it is not easy to have self-control and many end up losing for this reason, sometimes when winning it is better to stop playing for a while, drink water, watch a movie or something, and then come back, but sometimes we are very greedy and we can not do that and we end up wanting to win more and more, this idea of vault is good, but the good thing is to learn to have self-control. Good luck and one day we will learn from our mistakes! And sorry my English is bad
wry Posted November 28, 2018 #25 Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 8:34 PM, Edward said: In order to make the vault a more viable choice for storing your Bitcoin what features would you like to see potentially added? I love the idea of a place to store my coins to help with my book keeping - tracking wins and losses and such. I don't like having to use email to withdraw and don't see the point of having to enter my password again, I'm already in my account. Is there a way for the bad guys to get into my account without using my password? Like @Dan suggested making those features like email verification optional would be great. Right now I wont use vault, I don't have enough confidence that it works and it just seems cumbersome. So a "light' vault option that is simply a side balance to put coins in would be a very nice feature.
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