Pay For Our Mods

[Caligula6]

Good friend, I'm new to the page and as far as I know in other pages if they pay the mod, if in this case they do not pay I agree that they do, since it is a job and they give their time, not I had the opportunity to talk with other mods, but Maverick is very attentive in the Spanish chat and any questions we have he answers. regards

[chrisconn63]

6 minutes ago, wyj1306 said:

It is not so easy to be a moderator, imagine you exchange your free time to be taking care of a room with hundreds of people, sometimes mistakes are made, but mistakes always happen to everyone, but they always try to do a good job .

well im sure if they were here before they were modded that free time they have would still be at the same place. yes i agree that people make mistakes but mistakes are different that just flat out uncalled for actions. i have countless more examples that ive had happen to me with just crazy hypocritical actions. yea a mute isnt really a big deal but its the fact that it actually happened. theres plenty of times ive seen behavior that would just outright push people away, that doesnt deserve pay in my book. but like i said not every mod is bad there are a handful of wonderful mods here at stake, most of them in fact! it would be nice to see them paid, but at the same time it wouldnt be nice to see some get paid when its not deserving. its like someone working hard and the lazy guy that stay home gets paid for it.

[TKO]

53 minutes ago, chrisconn63 said:

there are a handful of wonderful mods here at stake, most of them in fact!

This is true. Every single mod that I have met in over 2 moths on the site now, have all been very welcoming and sweet to me.

 

54 minutes ago, chrisconn63 said:

its like someone working hard and the lazy guy that stay home gets paid for it.

For this, people facing inconvenience or having bad experiences should report it. The mod should/will be stripped of his/her title. But think about it as a company. You cannot not pay all employees just because a few are doing a bad job. Correct?

[reyar]

The mods are friendly her like other site,,, that's why i love stake

[DreamStage]

I don't think we should determine if they should be paid or not. That is a Staff decision ofc. But in parts i agree they should be for their work and support.

They are already known for their work so i think its reasonable to provide some support.

[williamshennie9]

12 hours ago, Etude said:

Seems like a good suggestion to stand out from other online crypto-casino that does not offer such perks as salary. This might increase the chat moderators motivation too to keep performing an excellent duty. 

I honestly like that the mods generally do a great job as of lately. My only criticism is that some mods are not strict enough with beggars, and people that break the rules. One mod which does an excellent job IMO is Maverick  He is awesome when he sends beggars some mutecoins

[Shaniqua]

 

honestly i dont think it is any of our concern.

however if i were to chime in, i would say being mod from my understanding is a volunteer thing, and not an obligation, and doesnt involve pay..
however.......... that being said. you cannot deny it comes with its perks,  and those perks are intangible, (yes i know its a lot of work and a lot of BS comes from both sides of the field...)

but one example of a perk which is not really that obvious is being chosen to run trivias for HR players, since they are mod its safer in a sense to trust them with the money. They do the work, run trivia, and usually keep between 10-25% of the trivia tip given to them as told by the tipper/hr  

yes its a lot of work to do trivia, but it comes with the volunteering being a mod,  not everyone can run trivia that wants to. its a perk.



another one which is even more hard to see hidden away in the nuances, so remember the whole 200k thing talked about earlier mentioned by someone? they thought it was the pay fo rmod, but it was tip money, yes? we all agree on that, or assuming we do...
--so they tip that out and people appreciate the tips of course. . . follow me so far?

then when one of the persons who were tipped either from that very tip or sometime wayy in the future wins big, the player instinctively ends up sending the people who tipped them in the past some "Thank you tips" . it is a unintended consequence of their job.. they dont ever ask for tips, we agree on that, no mod will do that... but they will for sure be sent tips, now you can argue that the reason is different, and it very well may be, but im saying is that 10k that they send here and there randomly haas an effect on the person getting it. Even though it is not from their pocket, but from stake, they in the end get the credit, if that makes sense.  and nothing wrong with any of this, the whole point is being mod has both costs and benefits or perks.

ive seen once a mod be tipped 0.1 btc cause the hr said that the mod was the only person to ever tip him. so he returned the favor one thousand fold, now that is a special case but the idea of one of the hidden perks.

anyways, here ya go another essay from shani, @Irena
speak up bois and gurls, dont kiss ass and lick butt holes,
speak your mind, and be respectful. 

[WolfHunter]

Well its the management's ultimate decision whether to pay or not...& as kate said, its a privilege to be one.

[Jakubb]

Trust me, I think if a mod wanted a payment, there would be so much more people wanting to take on the moderator position for no payment. Having such a privilege to have a "M" next to your name is enough of a payment.

[bmg]

I think that mods everywhere should be paid for the time they put in. yes its a privilege but it also can be a lot of work I'm sure. 

[Shaniqua]

23 minutes ago, bmg said:

I think that mods everywhere should be paid for the time they put in. yes its a privilege but it also can be a lot of work I'm sure. 

but it is volunteer work....
support staff in the office get paid tho of course.... 

its a role that is taken on voluntarily, assuming the person volunteering enjoys knowing the fact its not a paid gig, maybe thats why mods should rotate more =P give them a  chance to be regualar users too sometime =P

[wry]

4 hours ago, bmg said:

I think that mods everywhere should be paid for the time they put in. yes its a privilege but it also can be a lot of work I'm sure. 

It's only a lot of work to do it well or when the chat is not very interesting itself.

In general you should not pay people who are volunteers and that is one of the nice things about Stake, they have a tiered system of volunteer mods and then a paid professional support staff.  In my view it is the professional support staff that really makes the difference here on a lot of levels.  It works really well as there is guidance and a professional support system for issues.

Having said that I can see reasons for them paying for mods who have the language skills for hard to monitor chat rooms.  Also the bump in forum rewards here has dramatically increased the number of low value posts, look for my Typology of Shitposts soon, but even paying for things like moderation actions is problematic.

As to some of the other  points that have been raised:

• In my experience people who really really really want to be mods generally have not been not very good ones.  I've never asked to be a mod.

• While there may be some goodwill and prestige it's more than offset by the resentment created by creating a difference between users.  If it was up to me I'd ditch the blue M.

• For me the hardest part of moderation is judgement and keeping things fair, we all have different views and rules cannot cover every contingency (e.g. passive begging) and so it does not surprise me that mod "strictness" (both here and in chat) or mute propensity varies.  @maverick528 is the king there, and I'm glad he's around, and if I'm the jester, then that's cool too.