My Philosophy on Purpose of Free Bonus $$$ and Rainbots

[blueprints]

Why would a Casino Give Players a Chance to Win Without Risk?

Have you considered the idea that rainbot might not be so much for the players as it is for the benefit of the casino? I was thinking about this a few days ago, why do some sites generously give out free bonus money? It would not make sense for them to want the players to win and withdraw with little to no deposit activity. So what was the catch? Well reflecting on my own gambling activity and the effects free money has had and could have on me, i came up with the following ideas:

The more people play in a casino the more of a chance they will have of having a positive, fun, memorable experience. The kind that keep a player coming, and eventually coming with their own money because they are convinced that they will win, because of the positive fun memories they had with free bonus money. 

Playing with free bonus/rain money also reduces or even eliminates the stress, anxiety, or discomfort that can often be experienced when playing and losing ones own money. And if free money is lost who cares it was free! This also makes it easy to risk big, and eventually a player will win and then they will compare their balance to what they started with and develop a good impression of the site, or believe they are lucky. 

There is greed is in all of us to some extent, and it is a big factor in this gambler chaining process.  

We all want to win more, especially if we can! Everyone can win more by simply depositing and betting more. Some may win with those deposits, and then eventually lose. And you know what happens next? 

They come back trying to recover. Even if its not chasing! They will still have a new goal set, an excuse to keep on playing and playing. They will get to a point where they don't even need free money because now they have a habit of coming to visit the site, which is what i believe to be the purpose of free bonus money. 

Conclusion:

Personally I have struggled with spending too much money but most of all, too much time on these gambling sites. More then I should, and it was specifically to the sites that offered free money whether through faucets, giveaways, or bonuses. I would think to myself, "These are opportunities to win! And if theres a chance of me winning and recovering any amount of my losses then i should do it" Now this would have worked out fine had I not been tempted to deposit after days of being on these sites. Even after the times i have lost big and felt like never coming back, I would hang out on the sites playing with free money trying to "recover" and after hours or days of being online id eventually forget the suffering and problems. Id get distracted, and heavily focused on winning to recover, that Id deposit the next chance i got and eventually lose. 

Now of course, if you have your gambling under control then free money is a nice incentive! But For those Struggling with Gambling i heed you to accept the fact that

Gambling is not a guaranteed win and rain and free coins is not and will not help your situation, It will only worsen your gambling problem and addiction!

[banditc]

i agree with your ideas but i think its pretty much common knowledge already. they give out money to attract and retain players...same reason stores have ads and sales...

[polor12]

There is pros and cons with rainbot.. 1 benefit of having rain is to keep your bankroll with something in it..1 con you don't always get rained

[CERN]

It's the same as most casino giving away comp play and free rooms. In the end it's just using the psychology of human nature to extract exactly what you want out of a person. It's basic social engineering for the most part.

Nice ideas and a well formulated post.

[blueprints]

Thanks for the feedback so far

Believe it or not it took me a while before really figuring this all out! haha I wish someone had explained this sooner. It took a lot of thinking and experience to come to this realization on my own. 

But then again i haven't been gambling for too long, at least compared to alot here

[KiXxnTRiXx]

Hahaha.. nice sis blue.. free money, coupons, in whatever form it comes in as.. is never free.. thats bait to get you hooked and keep coming back for more.. you may win here and there, but all casinos knows that eventually you will lose all if back or more.. very few will win big enough to be able to stop gambling, but even then, some. will win big and in turn start to bet big.. no one really can win forever.. casinos has been using this strat to bait people since before christ.... lol jk  

[Kate]

Well what can we do ? We are human beings and greed is a common character in most of us nowadays. And when we get too greedy we fail and loose everything. But thanks for the very detailed explanation  

[77kdub]

I've always thought  that the purpose of the bot is to attract more possible depositing players as a Rainbot can be quite an attractive feature when deciding where one might play.  The bad thing about it is the fact that it does end up making a gambling addicts addiction worse especially when they are counting on what they might catch from the bot in a desperate attempt to try and recover there losses,  which we all know will never usually happen.   Then you have the theory of "if there were no Rainbot there'd be no beggars" which I can somewhat agree to an extent.  I guess I could take it or leave it,  I'd still play at Stake either way.

[Faris]

I agree with your thoughts about addiction! I've been gambling since 2014 years and I never bought coins from my pocket.  I have not lost my money in 5 years. I only won..  What i mean when said "i only won" ? When I lose free money, i never thought that I need to buy a coin from my pocket for recover this "free money". I think my "self control" is not bad  I have never seen any harm from gambling(I only gained some weight ). these thoughts only apply to me. I know that gambling addiction harms many people.... 

In general, free money is for manipulation of psychology and this manipulation works at 70-80% of people with gambling addiction.

Free cheese is only found in the mousetrap

[Paecga129]

Blue.   This is very well written and I commend you for putting yourself out there and saying something’s that most of us refuse to admit to.    I think you are quite accurate as to why the rainbot is there.    But I also think regardless it is there for all of us to enjoy as a perk for playing at Stake.  

[sheenazbay]

all casinos know that in the end you will lose all if you return or more ... very few will win big enough to be able to stop gambling, but even then, some. will win big and in turn start big bets ... nobody can really win forever .. casinos have used this strategy to lure people to keep gambling

[rajamishra]

hello @blueprints its a marketing strategy to  collect players from different corner of the world.its obviously they can try more and more promotional activity to attract players to stay here and play more time .when you habituated you started your own money and end result its profit for sites. 

[GKD09]

This is definitely very accurate. The rainbot, the challenges are often there to attract players. But with the no min bet challenges. I think it gives the players who have lost or the players who would like to win much more an opportunity to do so. True with the rainbot it wont be so easy unless you are able to accumulate several and then start betting. 

Like @Faris mentioned, I too have never lost on a gambling site yet, as far as I can remember and I think we are some of the few as I don't see many people say so. What I mean by never lost is, I have never lost more than I have deposited. I just lost $45 during the race and of course we should and will lose, otherwise it's not gambling. But it's key to control your greed and not expect too much.

The best thing about Stake is that it gives us that "second chance", having lost an amount. Whether its the rain, telegram challenge, the weekly challenges and much more, it gives as an opportunity to not think about our losses for a while and focus on a sort of fun game to try and win a fairly good price. It's about hanging around and playing smart. If you are going to deposit looking to make back profits I will assure you that it will keep continuing until you get really lucky or broke to re-deposit. 

Rainbot is a nice feature - in a way of giving us essentially what was first ours. It gives us that extra chance we wouldn't have if say we were in a real casino. So as much as its a marketing strategy, let us be smart and play them wisely!  

[Mikehoncho]

On 3/12/2019 at 6:33 AM, Faris said:

Free cheese is only found in the mousetrap

If we were on Bitcointalk, i would merit this so hard. 

Awesome, awesome analogy sir.

[natypol]

On 3/12/2019 at 3:32 PM, polor12 said:

There is pros and cons with rainbot.. 1 benefit of having rain is to keep your bankroll with something in it..1 con you don't always get rained

Rainbot approaches some fixed people each turn. Eligible people are on the random list selected by the rainbot. But people who are continually operating are always in good hands, and it seems that this is not fair.

[ceastem]

Well that really depends. I for one, do not deposit that much here and I have made many withdrawals. Although not that big, at least I haven't lost that much yet.

Although there are lots of times that I gamble my winnings from here too. Haha

I believe it all depends on how you think and how much you can control your self (or have someone control you). I've told my gf to stop me from depositing big here, and she have been succeeding so far, so i think it's effective. Haha

[nattekut]

I personally think that rains and free coins is a perfect way to market your business (platform). You can spend thousands of $ on advertising but everyone knows that giving away free coins and mouth to mouth advertising is way more effective than doing paid advertising banners, etc. 

For rains and faucet it is just easy. What does a new player want to see if he gets on a new gambling platform? Simple, they want to see an active platform. And that is exactly what stake is creating by giving away free coins in rains, giveaways, forum rewards. In this way they keep more people active on their platform. 

[Moon]

😎Welcome to the club, ladies and gentlemen 😎

[nuuuitsjdragon]

On 3/12/2019 at 4:18 PM, blueprints said:

Why would a Casino Give Players a Chance to Win Without Risk?

Have you considered the idea that rainbot might not be so much for the players as it is for the benefit of the casino? I was thinking about this a few days ago, why do some sites generously give out free bonus money? It would not make sense for them to want the players to win and withdraw with little to no deposit activity. So what was the catch? Well reflecting on my own gambling activity and the effects free money has had and could have on me, i came up with the following ideas:

The more people play in a casino the more of a chance they will have of having a positive, fun, memorable experience. The kind that keep a player coming, and eventually coming with their own money because they are convinced that they will win, because of the positive fun memories they had with free bonus money. 

Playing with free bonus/rain money also reduces or even eliminates the stress, anxiety, or discomfort that can often be experienced when playing and losing ones own money. And if free money is lost who cares it was free! This also makes it easy to risk big, and eventually a player will win and then they will compare their balance to what they started with and develop a good impression of the site, or believe they are lucky. 

There is greed is in all of us to some extent, and it is a big factor in this gambler chaining process.  

We all want to win more, especially if we can! Everyone can win more by simply depositing and betting more. Some may win with those deposits, and then eventually lose. And you know what happens next? 

They come back trying to recover. Even if its not chasing! They will still have a new goal set, an excuse to keep on playing and playing. They will get to a point where they don't even need free money because now they have a habit of coming to visit the site, which is what i believe to be the purpose of free bonus money. 

Conclusion:

Personally I have struggled with spending too much money but most of all, too much time on these gambling sites. More then I should, and it was specifically to the sites that offered free money whether through faucets, giveaways, or bonuses. I would think to myself, "These are opportunities to win! And if theres a chance of me winning and recovering any amount of my losses then i should do it" Now this would have worked out fine had I not been tempted to deposit after days of being on these sites. Even after the times i have lost big and felt like never coming back, I would hang out on the sites playing with free money trying to "recover" and after hours or days of being online id eventually forget the suffering and problems. Id get distracted, and heavily focused on winning to recover, that Id deposit the next chance i got and eventually lose. 

Now of course, if you have your gambling under control then free money is a nice incentive! But For those Struggling with Gambling i heed you to accept the fact that

Gambling is not a guaranteed win and rain and free coins is not and will not help your situation, It will only worsen your gambling problem and addiction!

I never thought of it in that way... maybe you’re right about free coins and rain that it absolutely destroys players in the sense of greed!

I get it as it’s similar to drugs whereby we are constantly being fed dopamine in small doses that kinda lead nowhere? 

The giveaways are slightly better but not that far off from a sizeable rain as you’ll be better off just depositing!

For players that have their plan down, calculating these benefits as a form of rakeback is the most efficient way to go about it which requires control to not play them every single time it is given but accumulate the amount. 

In this way, wouldn’t the forum’s pay-per-post be a form of drip candy as well? Oh well we can only blame it on our lack of self-control.

[Shaniqua]

hmmm i c what you mean, but then again there are certain sites, which are.... unlike any other... fufll faucet for life.. big faucet.... bigggggg one... no catch no gimiicks... granted i dont think it will last forever ever.. as more poepl catch on to it... .. but then again your idea is very interesting as i think it may ever apply to the site i am talking about...
having users get 50k per hour faucet may just intice them to just depo and try and win like a boss since they are also so appreciative.... anyways... i know i may not make total sense to all, but post has ryhume and reason, im just being carful not to name or mention any sites im talking about on accident =P

[banditc]

accumulation is a tactic i have not the self control to attempt...sad day