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Honestly not yet, but the trajectory is real. The talent gap is still wide but the pace of investment and youth development is way ahead of where it was even five years ago.

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Nah, still a retirement league rep at the top level, but the middle of the rosters are getting way more legit. Give it another 5-10 years.

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fr the retirement league label still stings but it's slowly dying, the mid-tier depth is what's actually making games watchable now

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Tbh the "retirement league" tag is fading fast, the real growth is in the 18-22 year olds sticking around longer before jumping to Europe.

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Honestly that 18-22 range is the whole story rn, once they stop treating MLS like a stepping stone the global respect will follow

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fr, the young core is getting scary good but until they can hang in a Club World Cup semi it's all just potential

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The young core is the bright spot for sure, but I feel like the coaching has to level up too—can’t keep running the same predictable setups against higher-level competition.

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Went to an Atlanta United match last season and the pace was so much quicker than just three yeaars ago, but then you watch a mid table Eredivisie game and realize the defensive organization is still miles apart honestly

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Went to see my local USL side scrimmage an MLS academy team and honestly the technical speed from those teenagers made me double take, so maybe the real shit is still a few years out but the pipeline looks way healthier than it did a decade ago

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it feels like the league is finally starting to keep more homegrown guys from jumping ship too early, but the real test is in those intercontinental knockout matches right? do you think itll ever attract the kind of elite coaches who usually just retire in MLS after Europe, or is that not even the right goal yet

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I think people sleeping on the defensive physicality improvement honestly, saw Atlanta hold their shape against a pressing Liga MX side way better than three years ago. Still lags behind on transitional speed and midfield technical comfort but the raw athleic floor is legit now.

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Joh mentioned just "Joh" and nothing else but honestly thats kind of what some of these European clubs tihnk of MLS just a passing thought you know

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Watching Miami right now feels like a different sport compared to five years ago, the pace and linkup play with Messi and Cremaschi is wild. If they keep poaching South American wonderkids before Europe notices them I could see a team makin a deep Club World Cup run sooner than people think.

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