frankimia20 Posted July 9 #2 Posted July 9 Honestly not yet, but the trajectory is real. The talent gap is still wide but the pace of investment and youth development is way ahead of where it was even five years ago.
havenra Posted July 9 #3 Posted July 9 Nah, still a retirement league rep at the top level, but the middle of the rosters are getting way more legit. Give it another 5-10 years.
Havenax Posted July 9 #4 Posted July 9 Still feels like a feeder league for Europe, but the ceiling keeps rising every season tbh
Kyrvar Posted July 9 #5 Posted July 9 fr the retirement league label still stings but it's slowly dying, the mid-tier depth is what's actually making games watchable now
voxast95 Posted July 9 #6 Posted July 9 Tbh the "retirement league" tag is fading fast, the real growth is in the 18-22 year olds sticking around longer before jumping to Europe.
morthni Posted July 9 #7 Posted July 9 Honestly that 18-22 range is the whole story rn, once they stop treating MLS like a stepping stone the global respect will follow
sydneyess1 Posted July 9 #8 Posted July 9 The 18-22 pipeline is definitely the key, but they need a legit continental trophy to prove it's not just a development stop.
ravra Posted July 9 #9 Posted July 9 fr, the young core is getting scary good but until they can hang in a Club World Cup semi it's all just potential
meridra Posted July 9 #10 Posted July 9 The young core is the bright spot for sure, but I feel like the coaching has to level up too—can’t keep running the same predictable setups against higher-level competition.
ace4zbvucxc Posted July 9 #13 Posted July 9 yeah no cap it's still got a way to go, but the young talent sticking around longer is a big W, MLS def on the rise ?
luxuriantly271 Posted July 10 #14 Posted July 10 Went to an Atlanta United match last season and the pace was so much quicker than just three yeaars ago, but then you watch a mid table Eredivisie game and realize the defensive organization is still miles apart honestly
phantixwyn Posted July 10 #15 Posted July 10 Went to see my local USL side scrimmage an MLS academy team and honestly the technical speed from those teenagers made me double take, so maybe the real shit is still a few years out but the pipeline looks way healthier than it did a decade ago
RadanReaper Posted July 10 #16 Posted July 10 yeah ngl the gap is still there but mls is def moving the right way fr ? the kids staying longer is the real win, no cap
faithrimia Posted July 10 #17 Posted July 10 it feels like the league is finally starting to keep more homegrown guys from jumping ship too early, but the real test is in those intercontinental knockout matches right? do you think itll ever attract the kind of elite coaches who usually just retire in MLS after Europe, or is that not even the right goal yet
nix5p4mlem Posted July 10 #18 Posted July 10 youth development is the real win rn, those kids are staying longer and making games way more fun to watch ?
nyxumzyl18 Posted July 10 #19 Posted July 10 I caught a Charlotte match last month and the final third decision makinng still feels a step behind what I see in the Argentine league.
leopyde7bx Posted July 11 #20 Posted July 11 yeah not there yet globally but teh jump in young talent is real ngl, give it a few more years and mls gonna look way diff fr ?
Zylelle Posted July 11 #21 Posted July 11 I think people sleeping on the defensive physicality improvement honestly, saw Atlanta hold their shape against a pressing Liga MX side way better than three years ago. Still lags behind on transitional speed and midfield technical comfort but the raw athleic floor is legit now.
dinai674 Posted July 11 #24 Posted July 11 Joh mentioned just "Joh" and nothing else but honestly thats kind of what some of these European clubs tihnk of MLS just a passing thought you know
peltund Posted July 11 #25 Posted July 11 Watching Miami right now feels like a different sport compared to five years ago, the pace and linkup play with Messi and Cremaschi is wild. If they keep poaching South American wonderkids before Europe notices them I could see a team makin a deep Club World Cup run sooner than people think.
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