How To - Make Deposits Last

[Asscorn]

1 minute ago, DarkBlood069 said:

I've found that I've lost so much money here so I am less frequent online so my aim is to gather enough funds together so I can maximise my chances of getting back into green stats, I know this is going to take me a very long time - especially when the bet can be made in 2 seconds and end up losing it all. It's all about the luck of the game but I'm hoping I can be more frequently online because I really do enjoy myself here at stake.

In my opinion, you should consider any coins you've lost here as gone and ignore what your stats say about how much your down. Start fresh  

  I wouldn't worry so much about getting into the black as I would be making sure that I control the coins  that I do have so I always have coin to gamble with. Rather then always going farther into the red when the big  bets or payouts don't pan out and you have to deposit again. 

A lot of small wager, large payout bets can be just as profitable as a large bet with a smaller payout, but give's you a lot more time playing and a lot more individual chances to hit something big from something small.

I'm not try to tell you how to play your game because I wouldn't want anyone telling me how to play mine.  Just telling you how I think you might be able to be on stake as frequently as you would like and maybe even win some coins back, or all of em.

 

Good Luck! 

[Kate]

7 hours ago, Shaniqua said:

your speaking alien to me again... i dont speak your language... what is....... bankrol.. man.. age.. ment?

That means like how much you gamble with it is not alien every person who gambles will or must know that word  , And by management is managing how much you play everyday. 

[artizykristy]

15 hours ago, Asscorn said:

I suppose that would depend on if your a regular gambler or occasional.  I'm always gambling so if I made large bets all the time and didnt ever worry about banking profit, I would be depositing a lot more often if I wasn't lucky. 

Most regular gamblers can't afford to be depositing all the time.  

I do agree, if your here to win or lose then leave then large bets are the way to go.

yep that's true because everyone is different there are those who think that playing big is the right choice and also there are some people who think playing safe by saving is the right choice. so the conclusion I can say is that it depends on the person, and also the tricks you give to play save that is also a good choice maybe I will try it later.   

 

[MadMartingale]

Thank you, worth a shot, ive been thinking about using the vault 

[Hoffguy]

20 hours ago, Asscorn said:

I suppose that would depend on if your a regular gambler or occasional.  I'm always gambling so if I made large bets all the time and didnt ever worry about banking profit, I would be depositing a lot more often if I wasn't lucky. 

Most regular gamblers can't afford to be depositing all the time.  

I do agree, if your here to win or lose then leave then large bets are the way to go.

Another great read thanks for your quality posts Asscorn! yeah i think this is the thing like  artizykristy said. I think most gamblers, gamble for excitement of winning or to win some big amount in short term even though in long way they know they lose. But for people that want to have some fun and enjoy stake every day and not really bothered with huge wins, i think your plan is a really good one. 

how long did it take you to quadruple your bankroll! what games did you play, what was your settings! thanks. 

 

[williamshennie9]

In my opinion, the key to making deposits last is simply to have the self control to only wager a percentage of your deposit each time. This way, along with good bankroll management and regular deposits to the vault, your deposit can last a very long time

[Shaniqua]

On 4/23/2019 at 8:57 PM, williamshennie9 said:

In my opinion, the key to making deposits last is simply to have the self control to only wager a percentage of your deposit each time. This way, along with good bankroll management and regular deposits to the vault, your deposit can last a very long time

Exactly the point .. i posess nonself control thus incannot folo this method

[GoTServeD]

I prefer Do It Quick and Get Over It. If you win cash out and enjoy your profit and if you lose then move on. 

[polor12]

if you really want to keep you deposit last,,, heres one start hunting those milx in mines.. bet really low.. that is how ill keep my depo last for a few good hours. and when it hits.. damn.. ill be happy.. if it doesnt i can say this site is a bist.. 

[FotisNt]

Or just betting low for higher multipliers, as I do on plinko. Won some days ago, didnt work since now. I still believe that its all about self control, once you can manage having it, then you might come up winning, or not busting either.

[Shiest]

Set a time limit and take breaks when that limit hits. The worst is to get in that zone where you forget about time and strategy,,, leads to losses. 

SO i suggest take breaks

[nuuuitsjdragon]

On 4/20/2019 at 5:15 AM, Asscorn said:

I see a good number of player talking about deposits being lost too quickly.  

There are many different reasons this could be happening.  I believe the biggest reason is regular gambling combined with poor management of bankroll. 

You can't expect to deposit 100k sat,  make 20k bets and have your deposit last for any longer then a few min.  Even at 5k bets it probably won't last very long, unless your having some luck. 

Its been a few weeks since my last deposit,  (0.004 btc) with no signs of having to any time in the near future.  Infact. I've quadrupled my last deposit, and that's not including the over 300k sat in tips I've sent since depositing. 

I have strict rules for my bank roll and how I manage it. Because I do this I almost always have btc in my account without having to deposit.   So I thought I would  share my plan for bankroll management, and hopefully help other players deposits last longer. Regardless of amount. 

There's not a lot to it really, the hardest part is sticking to it. 

The first main part is to divide your deposit by 10. Keep 1 part in your main balance and the other 9 parts in the vault.   Next, take your 1 part and divide that by 100 for your bet size.  (50 if you feel that 1/100th is too low a bet, but no more then that.)  So if you deposit 100k, your main balance should be 10k and vault balance should be 90k, with a bet size of 100 sat.   

If you play and lose your balance you'll then withdraw another 10k from the vault, and continue with your 100sat bet size.  Repeating vault withdrawals whenever necessary.  

Now possibly the most important part of my plan is, whenever your main balance it TWICE your initial balance. (10k sat or 1 /10th of entire bankroll) you will then take any amount over the amount doubled and anymore you may have on top of 2x and deposit it into the vault.  

The vault can be your best friend here at Stake.  Having to take that 10 or 20 seconds it will take to confirm the vault withdrawal with your email is often long enough to cool off and stop you from making any rash decisions after heating up over long losing streaks.   

You can make your own variations to my plan, and I think as long as you don't get to far off the plan that your deposits will last much longer. If you stick to the plan and have even a little bit of regular luck, it's possible that you'll never have to deposit again or at least not for a long time. 

I hope this was helpful for anyone having a tough time making deposits last. 

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This advice is gold. 

In fact, I’ve never seen a good example of a bankroll management plan - much less drafted out in a concise manner! 

I was trying something similar but tend to always overextend (both no. of tries and bet amount). I never thought of implementing the Vault feature into my plan and this is honestly genius. 

Effective immediately, I will follow this strategy and hopefully, not make any mistakes. 

Taking your example into account, I was just wondering if you have a reference point whereby you decide to increase (x2) your bet size of 100 satoshi?

[cryptofly]

Very well said and written!  Before you start betting better create your own rules and follow it with no exception.  Rules like this at the top clearly will give your results, good results, combining them with the practice on self governance which is the most difficult practice among gamblers (me included).  Start with one single rule, and obey it at any cost, then the next and so on.  Good luck and keep safe !

[sdsdfbsfsd]

thanks for sharing you have some great ideas unfortunately ihave the complete wrong mindset when betting

[GKD09]

This is a very useful strategy for self control. Some may do this using a vault, and very few can do it without. 

I'm around 2 weeks into my first deposit, and going strong atm. I'm planning to withdraw a bit so I feel more safe rather than just using the vault. 

However, I had quite a bad experience today after the race and yes it was after the race weirdly. But it makes sense.

During the race I was somehow able to make 100k profit from the rain eddie gave us, and after that I took a small break and wanted to continue but was losing slowly and consistently, just trying to reach that "highest profit" area again.

In the end I ripped total 200k (including the 100k profit) and then took a small break to cool off and then I said thats enough. Stop chasing or you'll lose more.

A thing to take out of this is that, during the race, my main intention was lasting long, getting those bets in to increase my wager. Yet without much of my knowledge I was making decent bets, without thinking of this "highest profit" point or the peak we see in the live stats. 

So even when I did come below after several decent bets again i'd be up. However, after the race I was just trying to play a bit more and test my luck, thinking I'll stop in a few 1000s. But then I was trying to get some multiplers just to reach that peak again and kept losing. Rather had I bet without that in the back of my head, I probably wouldn't have lost much.

So apart from what you said which I do agree, management and also taking time to cool off, you must not think about your highest profits or even that 0 line when you are below (red zone). Just bet on the merit and you will do good or slightly bad.

 

[Burgerwcheese]

My first trip to Las Vegas was just over a year ago, and it was not as exciting as I had hoped for. In fact, it was a pretty lame weekend. By the time we left, I was bummed out and wishing that I had saved my money and stayed at home. Here’s what happened. Some of my friends and I had been planning a trip for a long weekend. We had our hotel reservation, tickets to a show that we wanted to see, and we learned a ton about how to gamble in Vegas.  I wanted to be responsible with my money, so I gave myself a bankroll of $1,000 and promised myself that I would not risk more than that. After some sight-seeing, we headed to the casino for our first gambling session. I played some slots and a few hands of blackjack. My pile of chips was getting smaller by the end of the game, but I was having fun, so I wasn’t too worried about it. Then we headed back to our hotel rooms to get changed for our dinner buffet. We gorged ourselves on delicious steaks, seafood, side dishes, and desserts, and we enjoyed the bottomless beverage package. Afterwards, we went back to the casino, where the chips were flowing a little bit more freely than they had before we started drinking. This time, I tried my hand at craps, and I loved the pack mentality of the game. The more people cheered me on, the more I took significant risks. When I woke up the next morning, I only had $200 left of my entire bankroll. Realizing how quickly I had lost almost all of my money made my hangover feel ten times worse. After we spent the morning recovering, we headed back to the casino. Knowing that I only had a little bit of money left, I should have chosen my games wisely. I should have stuck with the game I know best: blackjack. But instead of being intelligent, I decided that I wanted to experience every game that I could before I ran out of money. I tried roulette, and when I started losing at that, I headed over to the mini-baccarat table, and after that, I went to the poker room.  Within a couple of hours, my bankroll was down to less than $25, so I finished it off on some penny slots, hoping desperately for a win that would let me play again. I didn’t get the jackpot, so I headed back to the hotel room to wait for my buddies who were still playing. I spent the majority of the next three days sitting at the pool because I had nothing better to do, while my friends were still gambling. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed with my first trip to Vegas, and I learned my lesson. So, a year later, my friends and I decided to make another trip to Vegas. I wanted to give the city another chance, but this time, I was not going to be stuck at the pool. Instead of researching the games I wanted to play, I spent a lot of time studying bankroll management in preparation for my second trip.

Before my first trip, I knew that I had to choose an amount of money that I was comfortable losing. That money was my $1,000 bankroll. I could have stopped by the casino ATM and kept playing all weekend, but I knew that I had set aside that original thousand for a reason. Giving myself the limit of only gambling with that initial $1,000 was a good start, but it turns out I needed to do a little more planning beyond that. The best way to make sure that you have enough money to play, whether you plan on gambling for a day or a few, is to divide your bankroll. If you have $1,000 , divide that money into a smaller amount for each day that you gamble. In my case, we were in Vegas for five days, so my bankroll for each day should have been $200. Another way to divide your bankroll is to separate it based on how many gambling sessions you plan on having, instead of days.  When I went back for my second trip to Vegas, I was bound and determined to not run out of gambling money. This time, I had $1,000 to gamble and only two days of gambling to plan on. I knew that we would probably play twice each day, so I split my $1,000 into four sessions of $250 each. At first, $250 didn’t seem like much. I knew that I had lost way more than that in one sitting during my first trip, so I was a little worried that I would end up losing it all within twenty minutes. But by the end of the trip, I was glad that I had set those limits. I learned how to use other strategies to draw out my $250 for each session, and every time I ended a game with leftover money, I spread that money to the rest of the trip. So, my $250 became $300 because I had saved an extra $50 from the first day. I had to be intentional not to lose all of my money right away, but having my bankroll divided allowed me to play every day, even when I was losing.  I knew that my $250 wouldn’t go far if I didn’t plan carefully, so I also gave myself betting limits. There are several ways to use betting limits, so you can choose the combination that works best for you. Personally, I used win and loss limits and limited my bets as a percentage, but you can also decide to define what types of odds you will wager at. Win and loss limits go together, but if you choose to, you could only use one or the other. A loss limit is merely deciding that you will stop playing after you have lost a certain amount, while a win limit is deciding to stop playing after you have won a certain amount. For most people, their loss limit is the same as their total bankroll for that session.  There is one type of betting limit that I didn’t try during this last trip to Las Vegas, which was only allowing myself to bet on even-money odds. The idea with this one is that the reason that casinos only pay even money on these bets is that they typically are the ones most likely to be won. They pay the higher amounts on the options that are harder to win. So, by playing only even-money odds, you are giving yourself the best chance of having several small wins, even though you won’t get a massive payout on a single bet. I see the value of this kind of betting limit, but it depends a lot on the particular game that you are playing. The only reason that I didn’t use this strategy myself was that I didn’t do enough research to feel confident in how I used this strategy for each game.

Setting time limits is a pretty self-explanatory concept, but it can make a big difference in how long your bankroll lasts. Give yourself a time limit so that you stop playing after a couple of hours, no matter if you are winning or losing. The benefit of this is that if you are winning or breaking even when you reach your time limit, you can roll that extra money into the next few gaming sessions.  My friends learned how vital setting time limits was on our first trip to Vegas. Once I had lost all of my money, they would say that they were going to play for an hour before they would come hang out with me at the pool. Usually two and a half hours later, they would finally drag themselves away for long enough to send me a text. After every extended gambling session, one more of them would have spent all of their money, so they would be joining me at the pool while everyone else played.

A gamble session can be ruined very quickly when you run out of money. Don’t make the same mistakes that I made. Manage your bankroll effectively by dividing it, giving yourself limits, and using effective strategies. If you do that, you will be able to spend more time gambling and less time bored at the pool. Even though this post focuses on my experiences, the lessons are applicable no matter where or how often you play.  In fact, if you are gambling on a regular basis, it is even MORE critical for you to manage your bankroll than for those who play occasionally. The bottom line is that most people who gamble are primarily just looking to have some fun. The longer you can make your bankroll last, the more fun you will have. And that can only be a good thing.

[neich]

Thats a good way, but nothing is easy to achieve by having no self control, I dont have any so, cant do that unfortunately.:D

[FotisNt]

2 hours ago, Burgerwcheese said:

My first trip to Las Vegas was just over a year ago, and it was not as exciting as I had hoped for. In fact, it was a pretty lame weekend. By the time we left, I was bummed out and wishing that I had saved my money and stayed at home. Here’s what happened. Some of my friends and I had been planning a trip for a long weekend. We had our hotel reservation, tickets to a show that we wanted to see, and we learned a ton about how to gamble in Vegas.  I wanted to be responsible with my money, so I gave myself a bankroll of $1,000 and promised myself that I would not risk more than that. After some sight-seeing, we headed to the casino for our first gambling session. I played some slots and a few hands of blackjack. My pile of chips was getting smaller by the end of the game, but I was having fun, so I wasn’t too worried about it. Then we headed back to our hotel rooms to get changed for our dinner buffet. We gorged ourselves on delicious steaks, seafood, side dishes, and desserts, and we enjoyed the bottomless beverage package. Afterwards, we went back to the casino, where the chips were flowing a little bit more freely than they had before we started drinking. This time, I tried my hand at craps, and I loved the pack mentality of the game. The more people cheered me on, the more I took significant risks. When I woke up the next morning, I only had $200 left of my entire bankroll. Realizing how quickly I had lost almost all of my money made my hangover feel ten times worse. After we spent the morning recovering, we headed back to the casino. Knowing that I only had a little bit of money left, I should have chosen my games wisely. I should have stuck with the game I know best: blackjack. But instead of being intelligent, I decided that I wanted to experience every game that I could before I ran out of money. I tried roulette, and when I started losing at that, I headed over to the mini-baccarat table, and after that, I went to the poker room.  Within a couple of hours, my bankroll was down to less than $25, so I finished it off on some penny slots, hoping desperately for a win that would let me play again. I didn’t get the jackpot, so I headed back to the hotel room to wait for my buddies who were still playing. I spent the majority of the next three days sitting at the pool because I had nothing better to do, while my friends were still gambling. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed with my first trip to Vegas, and I learned my lesson. So, a year later, my friends and I decided to make another trip to Vegas. I wanted to give the city another chance, but this time, I was not going to be stuck at the pool. Instead of researching the games I wanted to play, I spent a lot of time studying bankroll management in preparation for my second trip.

Before my first trip, I knew that I had to choose an amount of money that I was comfortable losing. That money was my $1,000 bankroll. I could have stopped by the casino ATM and kept playing all weekend, but I knew that I had set aside that original thousand for a reason. Giving myself the limit of only gambling with that initial $1,000 was a good start, but it turns out I needed to do a little more planning beyond that. The best way to make sure that you have enough money to play, whether you plan on gambling for a day or a few, is to divide your bankroll. If you have $1,000 , divide that money into a smaller amount for each day that you gamble. In my case, we were in Vegas for five days, so my bankroll for each day should have been $200. Another way to divide your bankroll is to separate it based on how many gambling sessions you plan on having, instead of days.  When I went back for my second trip to Vegas, I was bound and determined to not run out of gambling money. This time, I had $1,000 to gamble and only two days of gambling to plan on. I knew that we would probably play twice each day, so I split my $1,000 into four sessions of $250 each. At first, $250 didn’t seem like much. I knew that I had lost way more than that in one sitting during my first trip, so I was a little worried that I would end up losing it all within twenty minutes. But by the end of the trip, I was glad that I had set those limits. I learned how to use other strategies to draw out my $250 for each session, and every time I ended a game with leftover money, I spread that money to the rest of the trip. So, my $250 became $300 because I had saved an extra $50 from the first day. I had to be intentional not to lose all of my money right away, but having my bankroll divided allowed me to play every day, even when I was losing.  I knew that my $250 wouldn’t go far if I didn’t plan carefully, so I also gave myself betting limits. There are several ways to use betting limits, so you can choose the combination that works best for you. Personally, I used win and loss limits and limited my bets as a percentage, but you can also decide to define what types of odds you will wager at. Win and loss limits go together, but if you choose to, you could only use one or the other. A loss limit is merely deciding that you will stop playing after you have lost a certain amount, while a win limit is deciding to stop playing after you have won a certain amount. For most people, their loss limit is the same as their total bankroll for that session.  There is one type of betting limit that I didn’t try during this last trip to Las Vegas, which was only allowing myself to bet on even-money odds. The idea with this one is that the reason that casinos only pay even money on these bets is that they typically are the ones most likely to be won. They pay the higher amounts on the options that are harder to win. So, by playing only even-money odds, you are giving yourself the best chance of having several small wins, even though you won’t get a massive payout on a single bet. I see the value of this kind of betting limit, but it depends a lot on the particular game that you are playing. The only reason that I didn’t use this strategy myself was that I didn’t do enough research to feel confident in how I used this strategy for each game.

Setting time limits is a pretty self-explanatory concept, but it can make a big difference in how long your bankroll lasts. Give yourself a time limit so that you stop playing after a couple of hours, no matter if you are winning or losing. The benefit of this is that if you are winning or breaking even when you reach your time limit, you can roll that extra money into the next few gaming sessions.  My friends learned how vital setting time limits was on our first trip to Vegas. Once I had lost all of my money, they would say that they were going to play for an hour before they would come hang out with me at the pool. Usually two and a half hours later, they would finally drag themselves away for long enough to send me a text. After every extended gambling session, one more of them would have spent all of their money, so they would be joining me at the pool while everyone else played.

A gamble session can be ruined very quickly when you run out of money. Don’t make the same mistakes that I made. Manage your bankroll effectively by dividing it, giving yourself limits, and using effective strategies. If you do that, you will be able to spend more time gambling and less time bored at the pool. Even though this post focuses on my experiences, the lessons are applicable no matter where or how often you play.  In fact, if you are gambling on a regular basis, it is even MORE critical for you to manage your bankroll than for those who play occasionally. The bottom line is that most people who gamble are primarily just looking to have some fun. The longer you can make your bankroll last, the more fun you will have. And that can only be a good thing.

this looks so much like copy paste  

anyways, nice words there

[sheenazbay]

if we are too greedy it is difficult to win. especially after the deposit, the system will read that you gamble using personal money, not from the results of rain, faucet or other hyasil. so play with the games you have mastered. play with small hands with big payouts. that's my way

[nattekut]

thx for explaining your strategy. I really believe in this as well. I always considered having a good bankroll management is one of the important keys to become profitable. However it still is a little difficult in casinos because you still depend on the luck factor. I already noticed for me personally its easier to keep myself to a strict BR management in my poker and sport betting.

[htetaungxx]

i also do like that way , eveytime i win huge 30% is only for saving , but i didnt save or stop gamble untill what i want to hit to be. mostly hunting busted than lose stright. and try to change my habbit that's double beting amount when i'm losing :(. thz for ur's suggsion.

[hanvee]

honestly vault kinda useless for me, i can wd vault in 10s ,... !! many time i depo into vault big amount then i wd part of it...and part of it...and keep doing it till the vault exhausted !!

[bmg]

There is no way to make a deposit last unless your just not playing any thing at all and letting your deposit sit.

This is why when you deposit you should only deposit money that you are willing to consider not yours anymore or consider it spent lol.

[FotisNt]

Also, I'd Iike to add that splitting balances into vault is a common mistake too, while people with no self control are gonna redeposit again and again, predicting that they're gonna win.

[nuuuitsjdragon]

@Asscorn

I was testing out your bankroll management strategy and was thinking if it works for all balances? 

What I want to clarify is whether this will still be as effective for lesser-stacked bankrolls? A lesser deposit spilt into 10 would mean the amount the player is allowed to use at any one single time may be too insignificant? 

Of course, still mad props to your strategy as the advice of using the vault to set stop limits is just innovative and can be effective as hell. 🤔