Can gambling be categorized as one type of work?

[sheenazbay]

The essence of gambling is the desire to earn a lot of money or income without the work value equivalent to the amount earned. Here the luck factor becomes very fundamental and the income earned from gambling is the result of the losses suffered by other gamblers. That is, people cannot earn money through gambling without making others lose as much money as possible. Accumulatively, pleasure is obtained through the acquisition of money without equal work values and pleasure obtained through the defeat of its opponents.

while work is a fundamental reality in all societies and there is a kind of "classes" for this. a job requires certain skills or skills that are either obtained through formal, informal education and personal experience. work has a measurable income means there are separate calculations to determine the eligibility of wages or salaries received by a worker. Measured here includes calculations regarding the level of difficulty, position, level of education, number of hours worked, etc.

Referring to the definition of gambling and work above, I say that gambling is not a job. because the income earned from gambling is "not measurable". if anyone wants to argue that gambling also requires skill. It's simple, there are no gambling scholars, master gamblers, gambling doctors, right?. Artificially, gambling seems to be a kind of work, but in essence, gambling rejects itself to be called a job!

so according to all of you can gambling be categorized as one type of work as other jobs?

[rajamishra]

hello friends all ready  answer your question. sharing trading as known as gambling with actual money ,that can done by every one may be doctor,engineer and many more to get quick money.but they have a mainstream job with his/her .where as we have no job only one option without any qualification you can join and earn. 

when you work in online any kind of job like affiliate marketing,network marketing,virtual assistant etc.so many type of jobs available now online for earning.All works done by virtual way rather than physically.what are the definition for that jobs.

when work for lowest segments in 8 hours for a day they get normally  $5 to $8 dollar cumulative into a month  $125 to $200,where as in gambling he/she can earn $100 to $1000 in an hours. 

if as ratio in both work earning too much different,weather in gambling you can earn slowly without any loses.but what we do even if from a small amount tried  within a hour its converted to millions.that's the reasons we lost every time.

yes i agree its not gave you any name or fame like doctor or scientist.either also it can't be revealed everywhere what  your job.there is no definition or job description as a gambler not even all over world.

it's only so popular due to quick return of money without any hard work.

 

hope someday we are also recognized as job of gamblers

[sheenazbay]

20 minutes ago, rajamishra said:

hope someday we are also recognized as job of gamblers

from your last statement it means that for you gambling is not a job, because you expect someday gambling is considered a job

[wry]

Gambling is against you mathematically, so it is rarely "work", a productive effort you are compensated for.  So almost never.  However, I could see how things like counting cards at blackjack or sports betting (including horse racing) or poker could be considered work.  In each case by engaging in extensive effort you may be able to overcome the house edge, so it's gambling with effort that should result in compensation.  Too much work for not enough return for me, but I could see that angle.

[barbaris]

For some players this may be a job. Because professional gambling players earn not bad money every day. But for me, this is not a job, but entertainment and if you are lucky enough to earn extra money.

[sdsdfbsfsd]

i guess it could but wouldnt be totally reliable for regulare income unlike a part-full job etc ,)

[williamshennie9]

I would say no. Gambling can't make you profit over the long run, while working and getting a paycheck can. So that is how I see it, I could be wrong though. Remember poker players are not traditional gamblers. They play against others, not the casino.

[Etude]

Hmm well there actually are alot of people who call themselves professional gamblers such as professional poker players and also hustlers who frequents casinos I think. 🤔

[SLFJ]

Can you lose money in a job? No. So I wouldn't say gambling would be categorized as work.

[Mateusz]

As you are not guranteed a stable profit, then no. You cannot say that you'll be working (gambling) for X hours and get Y money, because this is based on luck and u might always lose your money.

Although sitting in chat and taking the rains without playing somehow might be taken as some kind of a job because u earn some using ur free time.

[davinmark]

Hmm i dont think gambling can be categorized as one type of work, but if you work as Staff at gambling sites/ gambling place it would be such a work  , but if you are a gambling player you cant say that is a kind of job because you can get busted too. well, what kind of job that makes lost our money?

[DreamStage]

Well if you take the opportunity into grabbing a job that requests you to find the best odds for gambling then yeah for sure.

Nevertheless since you dont get income from a boss neither you declare your profits in some countries it is not considered as a profession.

[zulfandina]

gambling is in my opinion just a distraction ... an activity that can release saturation and fatigue after a day of activities ...

yeah ... right ... gambling can't be said to be a job ... even though gambling can make money and spend money ...

gambling is only a game in life ... so don't compare it between gambling and work. gambling is just a game.

[nattekut]

Gambling can become your full time income job. I must admit I personally think that it is not possible by trying to become a professional gambler in casino games like stake. But if you master poker or sport betting very well than this can become a full time job. I have many friends in the industry in poker and sport betting that make their daily living by playing poker or doing sport betting.

Me personally I am playing on sports for over 8 years and since I started using value betting and arbitrage betting software 3 years ago I can consider that gambling can provide me enough income to support my family. Beside sport betting I also have 2 physical businesses and an online trading business but if I would I would be able to support my family with only my gambling income from sport betting. I think on an average month I make between 2,500 and 5,000$ profits on sport betting

[wszechmogacy]

 

I think not. gambling is just entertainment, but it can also be addiction. You have to do it with your head and know when to stop.

[jualid]

I don't know is gambling can be called as a job/work but i think we can call it a professional, like professional poker player, there are so many pros poker player that living from poker. I guess it's same with other gambling.

[Paecga129]

On 6/7/2019 at 12:05 PM, sheenazbay said:

The essence of gambling is the desire to earn a lot of money or income without the work value equivalent to the amount earned. Here the luck factor becomes very fundamental and the income earned from gambling is the result of the losses suffered by other gamblers. That is, people cannot earn money through gambling without making others lose as much money as possible. Accumulatively, pleasure is obtained through the acquisition of money without equal work values and pleasure obtained through the defeat of its opponents.

while work is a fundamental reality in all societies and there is a kind of "classes" for this. a job requires certain skills or skills that are either obtained through formal, informal education and personal experience. work has a measurable income means there are separate calculations to determine the eligibility of wages or salaries received by a worker. Measured here includes calculations regarding the level of difficulty, position, level of education, number of hours worked, etc.

Referring to the definition of gambling and work above, I say that gambling is not a job. because the income earned from gambling is "not measurable". if anyone wants to argue that gambling also requires skill. It's simple, there are no gambling scholars, master gamblers, gambling doctors, right?. Artificially, gambling seems to be a kind of work, but in essence, gambling rejects itself to be called a job!

so according to all of you can gambling be categorized as one type of work as other jobs?

I don’t think so at all.   I have seen this forum topic so many times and it just makes me wowed that people feel gambling can be work.   I mean I suppose if you have a huge balance to start with that you aren’t afraid of losing or can live off the rakeback sure.   Or maybe someone else is giving you their funds and you are strategically and patiently gambling it.   Than sure.   But otherwise this is just absolute crazy talk.  

[ivan8877]

I think you can, if you can earn in this way ...)

[Etude]

Hmm I do wonder if professional sports bettors counts as a kind of work / job too then .

[concertrate]

I think it can be a job! I use our revenue service as a guide on how we are taxed:

If you are like most of the gambling population (i.e. you have a day job and only gamble every now and again for fun) then your winnings won’t be taxable, but you should still declare to SARS as non-taxable income. However, if you are a full time ‘professional’ gambler who has no other job and your sole source of income is to make money off bookies or casinos, then SARS will deem this activity to be a profit making scheme and you would need to declare your winnings (and losses) and they will be subject to normal tax.

 

So yeah I definitely think you can be a professional gambler. I think stake may even have some professional beggars.... hahaha

[yololife222]

Hey, gambing can't wrlly be a fulltime job, yes you can try get some extra money but not make a living out of it. Maby you could if you hawe good strat bigg balance and withdraw weekly surten amount of usd any thing can hapen if you belive.

[polor12]

type of work no.. consist of getting for certain hours of the week.. with a steady pay each other week.. that also brings benefits for you and your family,, gambling is entertainment for people to have during their past time.. only a handful can call this work,, poker players are the one that constantly entering tournaments and constantly winning them,,. and also have sponsor that also would give them money to have their brand on then while playing televised..cant never compare gambling to work,, 

[Kippo]

In my opinion, Gambling is not in job category. Gambling is a hobby like playing games, biking, reading books and so on. People just do what they want to do is called hobby. What they have to do is called job . 

[GKD09]

Well if you think about it, it actually is since there are professional gamblers too. Like professional poker players and other games too that I'm not so familiar about but I'm sure we all know about the huge poker tournaments there are which are viewed live. Just like sports being work, this could also be seen as one. You may think poker involves less skill, but it has its own skills that are tough. Like hiding emotions, knowing how to bet to fake or to hide your cards and many more traits you would need to perfect at that level.

Sure you need lot of luck, but luck is involved in any other thing too including sports although its lesser. But in gambling you get to calculate the probability and then play your hands. It's very debatable and not seen as a job title usually and is frowned upon by family and friends generally. 

[hillowner45]

Gambling definitely isn't a conventional way to make a living but it is possible and it can pay better than your normal 9-5 jobs. For example if you can count cards in blackjack and have the patience to grind at the table you are looking at $50-$100 a hour. But in the end it is gambling and you always run the risk of ruin no matter how small that may be. And also, most casinos can easily detect card counters within minutes and bar them from playing.