Moderator Flan Posted June 16, 2019 Moderator #1 Posted June 16, 2019 After baccarat one, I planned to calculate roulette bets, so here you are. We have 49 places that can we bet with, but why if we place all chip to the table? We got 0.98x? And if we got green, it's 0.73x? Let we say about betting also green here for 1 chip. (Numbers Payout(36) for numbers / All total chip betted at numbers without green) = 36 / 36 = 1.00x (only if we bet without green, and if we hit green, 0x payout) (Numbers Payout(36) / All numbers + Green bet) = 36 / 37 = 0.98x And then, what if we won at the green? (Green Payout (36) / All total chip wagered with non-numbers without green (48) = 36 / 48 = 0.73x Also this, If you bet in 2 sides, for example like Red-Black with equal amount, or 3 sides of 2:1 first-second-third, you would get 1.00x payout too), because : (2 sides (Payout 2) / Total betted chip at the 2 sides) = 2/2 = 1.00x (3 sides (Payout 3) / Total betted chip at the 3 sides = 3/3 = 1.00x If you planned to bet all these non-numbers payout and with one number (expect 0). (green will make your payout to 0 because green not related to anything) (All sides bet) (12) / Total Wagered) = 12 / 13 = 0.92x So, we still have these non-numbers payout, I mean by this picture below that I bet using chips. I had the formula here, to calculate how much if you hit a specific numbers (Total Payout of that Number / Total Chip Wagered) We had a case here, the roulette hit was number 32 and we have 6 chips total wagered. 32 number payouts with these setting was : 25 to 26 (3x payout), Red Colour (2x payout), Even Numbers (2x payout), so the total is 3 + 2 + 2 = 7x payout. And then, put the formula here ==> 7 / 6 = 1,17x How about increasing some chip here? Example like below.. We get 25 here, and wagered in 12 chips in total. 25 number payout then? 4 chips on 25 to 26 (3x payout) , 3 chips on Red Colour (2x payout), 1 chip at 2:1 3rd (3x payout) So, you need to multiple your wagering winning and sum all of them like this. (4 * 3) + (3*2) + 3 = 12 + 6 + 3 = 21x payout. 21 / 12 = 1.75x payout. Easy right? Let me know if you confuse in one part. All of these formula I already tested them and it was valid. If I'm wrong in a one thing, please let me know even it was just a small failure.
j240 Posted June 16, 2019 #2 Posted June 16, 2019 Hello there friend , wow i have limited understanding on how to play roulette . Now that you made this topic i now understand more how roulette work , i might start playing roullete again , Thank you so much flan this is very helpful for a newbie like me.
GKD09 Posted June 16, 2019 #3 Posted June 16, 2019 I went through your baccarat calculation thing, but wasn't too familiar cause I don't know baccarat well. I too love to make calculations and make strategies upon those basis. Makes gambling much more fun when you create your own strategy. I've been very busy but now that I am free I am going to try out some calculations myself so I understand them more than just reading it from here. Thanks though for inspiring me again And seems like you put some time into these so thanks again! I will post some too, if I find something cool and also some strats maybe
barbaris Posted June 16, 2019 #4 Posted June 16, 2019 You have good research. I would be interested to try it in action. This should definitely work. I hope I can increase my balance through your research.
Sped Posted June 16, 2019 #5 Posted June 16, 2019 Thanks for making this lmao, I may still be a little confused but it definitely clears up some questions i had about the gamemode.
pfodo Posted June 18, 2019 #6 Posted June 18, 2019 Thanks for this extensive research @Flansca. I will test it soon, but after reading it looks valid for me. If something will not pass, I will report to you later.
williamshennie9 Posted June 21, 2019 #7 Posted June 21, 2019 Super handy method I will say. I tend to just clear all the "losing" chips and then multiply the winning chips with the allocated payout. Then I compare all the new chips I got to all the chips I lost to determine if I made a profit.
nuuuitsjdragon Posted June 21, 2019 #8 Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 7:28 PM, Flansca said: After baccarat one, I planned to calculate roulette bets, so here you are. We have 49 places that can we bet with, but why if we place all chip to the table? We got 0.98x? And if we got green, it's 0.73x? Let we say about betting also green here for 1 chip. (Numbers Payout(36) for numbers / All total chip betted at numbers without green) = 36 / 36 = 1.00x (only if we bet without green, and if we hit green, 0x payout) (Numbers Payout(36) / All numbers + Green bet) = 36 / 37 = 0.98x And then, what if we won at the green? (Green Payout (36) / All total chip wagered with non-numbers without green (48) = 36 / 48 = 0.73x Also this, If you bet in 2 sides, for example like Red-Black with equal amount, or 3 sides of 2:1 first-second-third, you would get 1.00x payout too), because : (2 sides (Payout 2) / Total betted chip at the 2 sides) = 2/2 = 1.00x (3 sides (Payout 3) / Total betted chip at the 3 sides = 3/3 = 1.00x If you planned to bet all these non-numbers payout and with one number (expect 0). (green will make your payout to 0 because green not related to anything) (All sides bet) (12) / Total Wagered) = 12 / 13 = 0.92x So, we still have these non-numbers payout, I mean by this picture below that I bet using chips. I had the formula here, to calculate how much if you hit a specific numbers (Total Payout of that Number / Total Chip Wagered) We had a case here, the roulette hit was number 32 and we have 6 chips total wagered. 32 number payouts with these setting was : 25 to 26 (3x payout), Red Colour (2x payout), Even Numbers (2x payout), so the total is 3 + 2 + 2 = 7x payout. And then, put the formula here ==> 7 / 6 = 1,17x How about increasing some chip here? Example like below.. We get 25 here, and wagered in 12 chips in total. 25 number payout then? 4 chips on 25 to 26 (3x payout) , 3 chips on Red Colour (2x payout), 1 chip at 2:1 3rd (3x payout) So, you need to multiple your wagering winning and sum all of them like this. (4 * 3) + (3*2) + 3 = 12 + 6 + 3 = 21x payout. 21 / 12 = 1.75x payout. Easy right? Let me know if you confuse in one part. All of these formula I already tested them and it was valid. If I'm wrong in a one thing, please let me know even it was just a small failure. Is it common for Roulette players to bet like the way you do, covering more numbers, groups or colours to go for a lower payout? I don’t play like that and personally pick a few single numbers but not place chips on so many conditions hahaha.
Etude Posted June 30, 2019 #9 Posted June 30, 2019 Sweet formula for calculating Roulette payouts you have made in this post here flansca! It is very informative when I need to figure out a new Roulette strategy or wanting to try out some fancy Roulette bets soon. Thanks alot!
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