Your opinion on same player winning 2 or more places during races ...

[Paecga129]

Last week, during one the races, it was brought up in chat that it was okay by admin for someone with alts to win more than one spot in the races.   How does everyone feel about this ?   Do you think this is fair ?   Or should be allowed ?    Do you feel admin made the right choice is allowing alts to win more than one spot ?   

 

Let me know what you think ! 

[yololife222]

Hey, first time hearing about this i think it should be allowed but its not against rules by gambling with youre alts the only rule is that you cant chat with it. I think its not fair for others cuse some of use arent as rich ass others. Personaly i think it should be allowd so others get a chance to kompeet. Yes i think he made the right choice, but theres always two sides to every thing.  

Yololife222 ❤️ #SFL

[pfodo]

More accounts also makes higher probability to lose. So it's no problem for me when somebody use two accounts.

[wngo123]

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Do you think this is fair ?  

Interesting, but that person is using their own money and is spending that money so I guess stake doesn't care, but does it sound fair? Well if I had such big balance that I could split it with two ads maybe I would try that technique as well since stake is ok with that. But I don't think this should be allowed because I can imagine somebody with 20 BTC get many alts and basically win all the places from 1st to the 10th and what is the point of the race if you can't win and only one person wins all. 

[Paecga129]

Right I mean I don’t think it’s “unfair” necessarily but it kinda sucks for those of us small guys trying to win ya know.   That person winning two spots isn’t breaking any riles obviously but it just is a real bummer to think the same person on two accounts who has huge balance isn’t really giving much of a chance to the smaller guys.   I dunno I mean I see both sides of it which is why I asked everyone’s opinion.   

[Ebolmanynetez]

I think it's not big problem because on race not all user could into it. And everytime any race not all user can be win. It's not break the rules. And also race different with rain tip. Race created to much racer join it. So purposes get much coin can achieve and success. That's all my opinion

[barbaris]

I think that would be fair. This player puts the same money only from several accounts and, accordingly, he has a higher risk of losing. I don’t see any problems why this was not allowed.

[Paecga129]

5 minutes ago, barbaris said:

I think that would be fair. This player puts the same money only from several accounts and, accordingly, he has a higher risk of losing. I don’t see any problems why this was not allowed.

But what about when this person has lots and lots of coin and ends up with top two spots ?  Tipping the two accounts back and forth ?   .... I am really unsure on how I feel about it to be honest so I am open to hearing what everyone has to say ... I don’t know if it bothers me or not at this point.   Haha.  Which is why I am curious what others think.  

[GKD09]

If you see it from the sites point of view - the more participants the more chances of getting more people to lose than win. The house edge the rage and everything will most likely get players to lose. Yes there are winners and maybe even huge winners, but it balances with all the loses and way more. Also it doesn't seem unfair since they are using their money to win a place. Unlike the rains or like the telegram challenge that is free money basically. That I think they should be more strict. 

Surely I would like lesser racers since it'll give me a better chance, but its only fair I guess

[barbaris]

6 minutes ago, Paecga129 said:

But what about when this person has lots and lots of coin and ends up with top two spots ?  Tipping the two accounts back and forth ?   .... I am really unsure on how I feel about it to be honest so I am open to hearing what everyone has to say ... I don’t know if it bothers me or not at this point.   Haha.  Which is why I am curious what others think.  

Well, here and so in the top list are those who have a lot of money. And if you look at it from the other side. Suddenly, this person loses all his money by participating in races on several accounts. It seems to me that a higher risk is entitled to several items on the list. But this is just my opinion.

[Paecga129]

Just now, barbaris said:

Well, here and so in the top list are those who have a lot of money. And if you look at it from the other side. Suddenly, this person loses all his money by participating in races on several accounts. It seems to me that a higher risk is entitled to several items on the list. But this is just my opinion.

I see what you are saying for sure.   During this particular race, I placed 101st with the top 100 spots paying prizes so maybe this is why I felt so bitter about it at the time.   Because I was one spot away from the top so felt like if an alt wasn’t allowed I would have placed.  Haha.   Hope that doesn’t sound selfish.    But afterward I thought about it and thought what difference does it make paecga.    It’s stakes rules and who am I to have a say in them.  

[pinguoin]

i realy do feel it's all about the admin choice an right, and mainly the owner if its done in rules, i dont see why he wouldnt be alirgght with it

[Jakubb]

40 minutes ago, Paecga129 said:

Last week, during one the races, it was brought up in chat that it was okay by admin for someone with alts to win more than one spot in the races.   How does everyone feel about this ?   Do you think this is fair ?   Or should be allowed ?    Do you feel admin made the right choice is allowing alts to win more than one spot ?   

 

Let me know what you think ! 

It's just for moneyz, I mean eddie doesn't mind some idiot trying his best to win twice in his races and bust 2x the amount, ez profits for him right there.

[barbaris]

5 minutes ago, Paecga129 said:

I see what you are saying for sure.   During this particular race, I placed 101st with the top 100 spots paying prizes so maybe this is why I felt so bitter about it at the time.   Because I was one spot away from the top so felt like if an alt wasn’t allowed I would have placed.  Haha.   Hope that doesn’t sound selfish.    But afterward I thought about it and thought what difference does it make paecga.    It’s stakes rules and who am I to have a say in them.  

I understand your chagrin. Unfortunately, whales are always at the top of the list. It seems to me that another system is needed here, which will allow not only people with a huge wager, but also ordinary players to get on the list.

[Paecga129]

I think that is the purpose of stake having so many races at random times with little to no warning though.   If it was at a certain time every day, the whales would be there for sure.   But being that it’s so random I think t gives a good opportunity for a wide variety of players to get in on the action.   Different time zones, different strategy’s, different bet amounts.    

[Sledge]

This is just fair, because they gamble for the prize too, even though they use 2 accounts, and it will just bring them lots of chances of losing. 

Maybe for you guys, it's unfair, hm yeah its kinda, but this is a competition, you should be smart. 

But I know, we have different opinions about this thing.

[wry]

Alts are banned from challenges, so I don't see why they would be permitted here.  However, it may just be a function of there is no time to check and so its effectively impossible to prevent.  I'd be surprised if anyone said explicitly it was allowed, but given how free money brings out the worst in people I'm in no way surprised if it's rampant.

That sucks you got 101st.

The good news is that Stake leadership makes changes and improvements all the time.

[CntryBoy]

I see no reason that it should not be allowed, especially from Stake's point of view.  The more people that race, alts or not, the better the chances that Stake is making more off of them.  I would say in most cases, racers are losing money racing while trying to climb the leader board.  This is why gambling sites exist is to make money, so it's a win-win for the site.

[denildan]

i have asked eddie abt prticipating with 2 accounts and he said he is fine with it . u cant win race with rain or ammo sent during race. and profiting on race is not easy task  when it comes to first 10 places. when whales get in like todays races its not possible to profit at all. u can check  stats of ppl in top 10 in races most of them are negative . if u can wager 20 btc in  1hr it is better to get  2 prizes by waggering 10 each btc than get 1 prize. atleast losses can be minimized.ultimately its stake that wins .if u dont allow it then ppl might leave the site .  

[DanielRandomDud]

i mean one rich can then win all the spots if he really wanted to

[Etude]

If you were to ask me I would say that it is fair game. Since it is a wagering contest and not exactly a freeloading contest. Yes the one with the most money on hand would have a great advantage over others, but that already applies in most things in reality anyways.  

[htetaungxx]

stake allow to use multiple accounts i think. no problem if they use multiple account for race or challenge as for me. 

[Menang]

I think its fair for someone with two accounts or more compete in race and winning it. Since the requirements for winning is wager. But I dont agree if alt account is winning in daily telegram which all people can compete with 0 base bet

[williamshennie9]

I think it is very unfair, because that means that a player who has loads of bitcoin can take advantage over other players. I guess Stake won't mind, since it pushes others to gamble more. So I doubt they will make it only one household for 1 win.

[Kate]

That is basically the worst thing an admin could say but thing is races arent giveaways if you think about it it is for stake to make more profits and that is why they mainly do it.