Stop on Loss/Profit & Increase Bet %

[GKD09]

We know that on every other game that has the Autobet feature also has the important stop on loss, stop on profit, increase % on win and increase % on loss. However, when it comes to plinko the only available option is the number of rolls. 

Lets be real,  we all know that the payout is decided the moment we roll the bet, and the pins it hits is already determined and we are just watching an animation. Sorry for ruining it for the ones who tilt their screens  Having said that, it is basically like every other game. If we look at Wheel, which has a fairly long animation without instant bet on, it still has the same features every other game has. 
You also can't argue that many Plinko balls fall at once, because really only 1 falls after another, and if we roll it on instant bet it is clear as the time between bets are almost the same - just like any other game.

So what I don't understand is why can't they include the other options that are available on every other game which has Autobet. Maybe the increase % after win or loss, may be eliminated since it will ruin the bets that are played without instant bet. As we can see the bet increase or decrease which means the furthest ball is going to be a win or a loss. But it is still possible and I would like to see it.

But what I think is most important is the stop on loss or profits. We all know how much Plinko can eat our balance and trying to hit those huge multipliers takes quite some time. It will be stupid if you left your Plinko auto on while you were afk. It can most likely eat your balance up. So why not introduce the stop on loss or profit? The live stats show the profits and losses and obviously the game is tracking it, so why can't it be stopped at the particular time and no further balls will be dropped. Because after all before the animation is played the outcome is already decided for the particular client, server seed and nonce.

What do you guys think about this? 

 

[Mateusz]

At first I thought u can't really have a 'stop on win/loss' feature when u have multiply payouts on the game, but as I see wheel does. So I think it is just a matter of time for it to be there. Also, the stop on profit feature is really needed here, I mean why wouldn't they add it instanly?

[cointikka]

Cannot understand a bit what you wrote my friend as I do not play plinko. It is one of the slowest game in stake. 

As per the my understanding there are multiple multipliers on the same screen of Plinko and on auto bet multiple balls come one by one and fall under different multipliers. It is logically not possible to add a Stop loss feature.

It would be possible on a manual interface, I guess. Which can be only answered by the developers.

[barbaris]

Yes, plinko is too voracious to play in automatic mode with settings increase on lose%. This will definitely end in failure. I prefer to hunt for the multiplier I need with the same amount of the bet and the number of rolls without increasing the base bet.

[ceastem]

It wasn't possible before because we have to wait for the pins to fall before it is considered a loss/win and the increase/decrease in bet amount would get too messy when balls start to fall almost at the same time.

With the fast result mode, it is possible. Just like how wheel  is which provides multiple payouts with changing the bet amount features.

Also, I already submitted an idea before where it would automatically stop when it hits a certain multi that we set, like 1kx multi, 420, etc. for our convenience.

They said they'll report it to devs but it won't be a priority. I suggest you post this in suggestions sections so that they would consider your suggestion

 

[GKD09]

1 hour ago, Mateusz said:

At first I thought u can't really have a 'stop on win/loss' feature when u have multiply payouts on the game, but as I see wheel does. So I think it is just a matter of time for it to be there. Also, the stop on profit feature is really needed here, I mean why wouldn't they add it instanly?

Exactly I think that is pretty important and especially when all other games offer it. 

1 hour ago, cointikka said:

As per the my understanding there are multiple multipliers on the same screen of Plinko and on auto bet multiple balls come one by one and fall under different multipliers. It is logically not possible to add a Stop loss feature.

No but @cointikka if you look at it - doing so will only ruin surprise that you would end up seeing in the end. Each ball that falls has its own path, which pin it hits and if it goes left or right after hitting that pin, but that is all for the purpose of its animation. Before the ball is even seen to us, the payout it is going to fall on is already determined by the seeds like I mentioned. So if after 25 rolls and the 26th is to hit a 0.2x which reaches our stop limit, then the 27th ball does not fall and the autobet stops, regardless if the animation is still going on for the last ball or not (instant bet). I hope it made sense.  

37 minutes ago, barbaris said:

Yes, plinko is too voracious to play in automatic mode with settings increase on lose%. This will definitely end in failure. I prefer to hunt for the multiplier I need with the same amount of the bet and the number of rolls without increasing the base bet.

Yeah true @barbaris but it could also be used as a strat maybe idk. But like I said the main option that should be present is the stop on loss/profit, the other would be cool too and if one doesn't like to play with increase % they don't enable it  

26 minutes ago, ceastem said:

They said they'll report it to devs but it won't be a priority. I suggest you post this in suggestions sections so that they would consider your suggestion

Oh yes @ceastem I remember that topic. That's nice and sure I will make a post on suggestions and link this too, after some more comments perhaps. Thanks!  

[cointikka]

55 minutes ago, GKD09 said:

No but @cointikka if you look at it - doing so will only ruin surprise that you would end up seeing in the end. Each ball that falls has its own path, which pin it hits and if it goes left or right after hitting that pin, but that is all for the purpose of its animation. Before the ball is even seen to us, the payout it is going to fall on is already determined by the seeds like I mentioned. So if after 25 rolls and the 26th is to hit a 0.2x which reaches our stop limit, then the 27th ball does not fall and the autobet stops, regardless if the animation is still going on for the last ball or not (instant bet). I hope it made sense.

Hey @GKD09 I assume you know, how Gambling works? 😐. But, still I would like to again make you aware of the fact. Normally you play against a casino with 1% house edge and  you hope to win big and walk away before you lose your money. What you are asking is rather than having 100 shots you want 1000 shots to reach your target with auto bet stop loss. In the end I will again rephrase my words, It is possible in manual not on auto bet logically😏. Just ask a question why will they do it? and you will get your answer😥.

[GKD09]

On 7/3/2019 at 9:07 PM, cointikka said:

Normally you play against a casino with 1% house edge and  you hope to win big and walk away before you lose your money. What you are asking is rather than having 100 shots you want 1000 shots to reach your target with auto bet stop loss.

@cointikka I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing anymore. What does the house edge have to do with stop on loss?  

On 7/3/2019 at 9:07 PM, cointikka said:

 I assume you know, how Gambling works? 😐. But, still I would like to again make you aware of the fact.

Since I smell some sarcasm I'm going to spend some time to tell you what I think, with an example. 

So for every given server seed and inputted client seed the outcomes are calculated for each roll (nonce). At the bottom it shows the final result of how the ball moves around before hitting the 1.9 multiplier on the right. This is what I would have obtained on my 2nd roll whether it was not on instant or on instant. 

The next bet which would occur since we are on autobet, would be of the same seeds but with nonce 3, as below. The outcome is already calculated (0.2x), so whether the animation shows it or not, it is going to multiply our bet by this amount. What I meant was since the outcome is actually calculated just like any other game here, why can't the stop on loss/profit be included? Similarly, why can't the increase bet % be included? 

So I don't get what you mean by it can only be done manually, when it is the exact same thing. Yes, I know we can increase the bets manually but Plinko works the exact same way other games work, except it has a longer animation, that's all.

Hope you get what I'm trying to say. I know gambling is about luck and it's random, but the animation is just to show the outcome. In online casinos the randomization occurs in the code, where it uses seeds and nonce to randomize the outcome. Or that is what I think it is!  

[williamshennie9]

I prefer not to use automatic betting on Stake. If I wanted to increase my base bet on a loss, I would do it manually. I prefer watching every bet I make (unless it is a zero bet), because then I see exactly what is happening.

[3kpk3]

I personally hate auto betting in Plinko. The guy who won x1000 with a decent amount of BTC inspired so many to flock over to Plinko and the house is making loads thanks to his win. Win-win for both the player and the house.

[GKD09]

@williamshennie9 oh well in that case this would really help you.  And for @3kpk3 too

I don't get why it can't be implemented however. I too don't play plinko much but the stop on profit/win seems pretty important for the ones who play regularly. 

I just thought it being necessary while playing for the weekly challenge

[bobdole]

I've never done any kind of increase/decrease on plinko autobet because I know I'll probably bust before hitting a large multiplier, given the odds of hitting them are so low. Stop on profit on the other hand is nice for autobet if you're willing to bust in pursuit of say 1000x so you don't lose your profits if you manage to hit it and aren't paying attention.

[FotisNt]

There are some options like that in the plinko bot, no idea if its legal tho. I guess this addition on stake would be really helpful while 0.2 on plinko can be easilly recovered with a small increment.

[Etude]

It would actually be a pretty crazy thing to be playing Plinko with the increase on loss % setting if it ever were to be available since endless streaks of 0.2x can come along at any moments notice to wipe you out.