bmg Posted September 1, 2019 #1 Posted September 1, 2019 Hello Stake community it me bmg wanting your input on something that's be brought up a few times in chat. In all the challenges and giveaways players are not allowed to be hidden. Well most of them anyway. The race's allow for players to win this event in hidden.. My question is do you think that it's ok or fair for this to be allowed?.. In my opinion I think that the races should be just as any other challenge or giveaway and it should be against the rules to race hidden and win... Tell me what you think.
SLFJ Posted September 1, 2019 #2 Posted September 1, 2019 Well you know, when you want to be in the tops and don't want to show who you are because of these annoying people like Tomki that you might get talked about or beggars in general, so I think it's fair that you can win hidden.
baifarra Posted September 1, 2019 #3 Posted September 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmg said: Hello Stake community it me bmg wanting your input on something that's be brought up a few times in chat. In all the challenges and giveaways players are not allowed to be hidden. Well most of them anyway. The race's allow for players to win this event in hidden.. My question is do you think that it's ok or fair for this to be allowed?.. In my opinion I think that the races should be just as any other challenge or giveaway and it should be against the rules to race hidden and win... Tell me what you think. yea i agree, and i also see 1 player winning multi 1st and 2nd place but name is almost similar, so if that person make 10 account and play them he can get all 10 place including the reward?
CntryBoy Posted September 1, 2019 #4 Posted September 1, 2019 To me in the races, it really doesn't make a difference. Those players are wagering just like everyone else, and just because they don't want their names shown so that the beggars and such know who they are shouldn't mean they are not entitled to a prize.
SLFJ Posted September 1, 2019 #5 Posted September 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, baifarra said: yea i agree, and i also see 1 player winning multi 1st and 2nd place but name is almost similar, so if that person make 10 account and play them he can get all 10 place including the reward? How do you think is it possible to get all top 10 yourself? How would you be that fast? You'd be lucky to get 2 accounts in top 10. And yes, they are awarded, why not? He wagered the amounts needed so he would get the reward.
jualid Posted September 1, 2019 #6 Posted September 1, 2019 It's fine to me, hidden on race is not against the rules and it's not affect me though. Imagine like you ranked 1st place on race and wagered so much bitcoins and not hidden your name, i'm sure many people will begging on messages and passive beg by mention you on the chat.
firewolf7876 Posted September 1, 2019 #7 Posted September 1, 2019 well i think thats true, for chalanges, you dont have to bet big or anything, but here prizes are bigger and in top, you probably if wagered thousands of thousands probably won same amount, and then you want to be hidden so no begging.
wngo123 Posted September 1, 2019 #8 Posted September 1, 2019 Quote In all the challenges and giveaways players are not allowed to be hidden. Well most of them anyway. The race's allow for players to win this event in hidden.. My question is do you think that it's ok or fair for this to be allowed?. It shouldn't be allowed to be hidden on races. When big money are involved and when many try to win them it should be as transparent as possible. I want to see the names of the people who won. It is still just their nickname, not like their real names so I wonder why they play hidden anyway.
maxpayne25 Posted September 1, 2019 #9 Posted September 1, 2019 Stake is trying to be as transparent as possible but also respect users. So at this point it's the best option they can offer I guess.
eldrindcm Posted September 1, 2019 #10 Posted September 1, 2019 Bets submitted on challenges need to be verified, that, I guess, is the reason why players need to disable ghost mode when joining challenges. Race, on the other hand, is a different competition, we don't need to verify these accounts as we're all aware that they are also wagering to win their spot. 26 minutes ago, wngo123 said: It is still just their nickname, not like their real names so I wonder why they play hidden anyway. So much reasons, one of which is to avoid being disturbed. As @maxpayne25 said above.. 25 minutes ago, maxpayne25 said: Stake is trying to be as transparent as possible but also respect users Also, if they'll not let these Hidden get spots on the race, and require them to disable Ghost Mode, and these Hidden doesn't really want to, might cause losing these players (loss on the part of casino ofc)
rio666 Posted September 1, 2019 #11 Posted September 1, 2019 6 hours ago, SLFJ said: Well you know, when you want to be in the tops and don't want to show who you are because of these annoying people like Tomki that you might get talked about or beggars in general, so I think it's fair that you can win hidden. i agree with this dude, i think this is for them to be able to focus on the game, coz lot of beggar will send them friend request after seeing them on the race 1st place .
wry Posted September 1, 2019 #12 Posted September 1, 2019 Hidden for races is okay rather than for challenges because races have a self protecting criteria of amount wagered. Most, if not all, challenges and evens are positive EV, you should expect to come out ahead overall by doing them. Therefore, the limit on no hidden to prevent alts makes perfect sense. In races it does not matter if you use alts, or at least it matters LESS, because the sole determinant of winning is how much you wagered. While I can see how though the use of alts you could have multiple entries in the races, you can't get the kind of EV advantage you can get in challenges. Furthermore, the simple fact is that as much as we all love the Stake community beggars do show up and bother high rollers, by allowing them to be hidden the risk of that is minimized. This is not to say I don't get your point, it makes perfect sense to me, I just think it's mitigated by the two factors above. Total judgement call though, maybe they will change it in time!
sheenazbay Posted September 1, 2019 #13 Posted September 1, 2019 actually users who have intentionally done so, they avoid beggars. Try to imagine if there are users who post bet ID and get big profits, many will ask for friendship and send PM to them to fight coins. Especially in a race where the wager is massive, and rewards are clearly displayed, and that will invite the beggars to ask for the winner of the race, and they hide themselves to avoid it.
Tomki Posted September 1, 2019 #14 Posted September 1, 2019 Hello all dear user on forum! Hidden = same nick. We can hide wager and profit too. Hidden isn't good idea for me but.. stake have it. I like see which cool nickname but hidden is sad. I'm not agree with it. Overall race statistics from your account is very good idea and we can hide too. I respect it. Greetings, Tomki!
dwaynesm Posted September 1, 2019 #15 Posted September 1, 2019 privacy right? i think this is good, respect ones privacy.
Tomki Posted September 1, 2019 #16 Posted September 1, 2019 Hi dwaynesm. What private nickname? nickname don't give more but profit, wager and stats race - i understand it but nickname: hidden no. We can block message for non-friend/beg and invite to list friend. It's everything and nothing more. Maybe who had problem about nickname and angry, when he don't know how to set block. I think that nickname Hidden is ashamed when he have bad nickname. I don't will comment more about that. Regards, Tomki.
zulfandina Posted September 1, 2019 #17 Posted September 1, 2019 8 hours ago, bmg said: Hello Stake community it me bmg wanting your input on something that's be brought up a few times in chat. In all the challenges and giveaways players are not allowed to be hidden. Well most of them anyway. The race's allow for players to win this event in hidden.. My question is do you think that it's ok or fair for this to be allowed?.. In my opinion I think that the races should be just as any other challenge or giveaway and it should be against the rules to race hidden and win... Tell me what you think. I think this is only natural, because so many beggars are hanging around and we cannot know the whereabouts of those who are always ready to act at any time if they see something of a big victory ... this is one of the excellent features that we should use ... not for fear that people will know our victory, but instead saves us from the actions of beggars and hackers if they know something big has happened
dwaynesm Posted September 1, 2019 #18 Posted September 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, zulfandina said: I think this is only natural, because so many beggars are hanging around and we cannot know the whereabouts of those who are always ready to act at any time if they see something of a big victory ... this is one of the excellent features that we should use ... not for fear that people will know our victory, but instead saves us from the actions of beggars and hackers if they know something big has happened you are actually 100% right with this not only beggars are watching, some hacker with good skill and knowledge can hack your account with just check some details on your name so better to hide your identity while playing with big balnce.
tae40127 Posted September 1, 2019 #19 Posted September 1, 2019 I think it ok to be hidden because this race is not buying ticket just a prime time that who play on that time wager a lot will win if it need to show the that mean the race that should be register and start with the equal budget so some people dont want to be show their name and not wnat to join in race but that time is for all member so they have no choice and if you need to know told eddie the race need to be register and start up equally and who busted are out it will know the true winner
dwaynesm Posted September 1, 2019 #20 Posted September 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, tae40127 said: I think it ok to be hidden because this race is not buying ticket just a prime time that who play on that time wager a lot will win if it need to show the that mean the race that should be register and start with the equal budget so some people dont want to be show their name and not wnat to join in race but that time is for all member so they have no choice and if you need to know told eddie the race need to be register and start up equally and who busted are out it will know the true winner yeah, our wifes might see what we are wagerring and our money might get confiscated. haha just kidding.
wiro212sableng Posted September 2, 2019 #21 Posted September 2, 2019 20 hours ago, bmg said: Hello Stake community it me bmg wanting your input on something that's be brought up a few times in chat. In all the challenges and giveaways players are not allowed to be hidden. Well most of them anyway. The race's allow for players to win this event in hidden.. My question is do you think that it's ok or fair for this to be allowed?.. In my opinion I think that the races should be just as any other challenge or giveaway and it should be against the rules to race hidden and win... Tell me what you think. I agree with you bro, i think race is open tournament for anyone. And there shoulda have a winner without hidden user also. But if that have a good reason for to do so, what we can do... admin always have a good reason for they're rules.
kayke94 Posted September 2, 2019 #22 Posted September 2, 2019 naaah i think this is for the best, not every one want to show others how mutch they gamble and such, they getting alot of attention this way what most people dont like
Ali saher Posted September 2, 2019 #23 Posted September 2, 2019 I not agree with you I think if anyone want hide his name this is his right because if you win or lose all people talk about you and some people not feel good other talk about him sacand if anyone win some big mostly people sends request send pm msgs and this activity affect on game that's why big roller want hide names and in my opinion this is good
wiro212sableng Posted September 2, 2019 #24 Posted September 2, 2019 17 hours ago, kayke94 said: naaah i think this is for the best, not every one want to show others how mutch they gamble and such, they getting alot of attention this way what most people dont like I agree on that apart for privacy, but not agree hidden during race allowed. Never saw competition or poker tournament etc winner by hidden name.
FotisNt Posted September 2, 2019 #25 Posted September 2, 2019 Well, I guess racers should be hidden to avoid pm begs and spammy stuff. That way gonna make them not to lose focus and be more efficient while racing.
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