GKD09 Posted October 24, 2019 #1 Posted October 24, 2019 So just today when I was trying to tip a user, it asked me to enter my 2FA before it would send the tip. I quickly cancelled it because I wasn't bothered to pick up my phone unlock it and get the code just to send that friendly small tip. My question is why was it necessary to add 2FA for even the tips? I'm not sure about rains but at least for tipping it is there. Stake continuously notifies and mentions how important 2FA is to have a secure account - even every time you log in without 2FA. So even with so much awareness why did they have to add this for tipping too? Was there some sort of incidence anyone knows of? You will surely see much less friendly tips going around now. At least I'm sure I won't go the distance to get my phone just to tip someone, for a joke, bet etc etc. Please let it be an option for us to enable/disable when it comes to just tips (and rains). I'd prefer just my account to be secure with 2FA and not most facilities within Stake - for the ones who are careful with their accounts.
Ali saher Posted October 24, 2019 #2 Posted October 24, 2019 Ohh I don't know about this 2fa now want for tipping I think this is not good and now I think so many users not give tips to others , I don't like 2fa for tipping I think stake add a options for this enable or disable otherwise I think so many people don't use tipping options, Maybe so much tipping spams that's why they add to 2fa option for tip
hui Posted October 24, 2019 #3 Posted October 24, 2019 The issue at hand is that people are stupid enough to paste code they don't understand into their browsers javascript console (right! the one with the huge red letters that instruct you to not paste anything in there). So there was malware in the past that took over peoples browser to tip their balance to the bad guy (usually after being tricked to think that they found some stupid coin doubler or something like that). Currently the session is 4 hours, so you can tip freely for a long time till you are asked for the 2FA again - I think this is already a decent compromise for most of us. On top of that there are thoughts about disabling the 2FA for tips for longer periods but this is currently not there yet. I hope that explains some of the backgrounds of the decision a bit.
sahil777 Posted October 24, 2019 #4 Posted October 24, 2019 i am also not a fan of 2fa, never used that option because i dont think its necessary for me, and to force users to use this for tipping isnt good anyway, maybe people will stop tipping to people after this restriction.
GKD09 Posted October 25, 2019 Author #5 Posted October 25, 2019 8 hours ago, hui said: The issue at hand is that people are stupid enough to paste code they don't understand into their browsers javascript console (right! the one with the huge red letters that instruct you to not paste anything in there). So there was malware in the past that took over peoples browser to tip their balance to the bad guy (usually after being tricked to think that they found some stupid coin doubler or something like that). Currently the session is 4 hours, so you can tip freely for a long time till you are asked for the 2FA again - I think this is already a decent compromise for most of us. On top of that there are thoughts about disabling the 2FA for tips for longer periods but this is currently not there yet. I hope that explains some of the backgrounds of the decision a bit. Okay that makes since there was an issue. Which is a nice thing for stake to do even after spreading awareness about account security etc. I do hope they do make it available to enable/disable it - for the ones who know are careful with their accounts yeah? Anyways thanks for the info hui!! 8 hours ago, sahil777 said: i am also not a fan of 2fa, never used that option because i dont think its necessary for me, and to force users to use this for tipping isnt good anyway, maybe people will stop tipping to people after this restriction. Yeah on this occasion I really didn't feel like entering the code just to tip and I'm sure it has stopped few other people too. Let's wait and see what stake does about this.
Sumedang Posted October 25, 2019 #6 Posted October 25, 2019 I don't like 2fa because I feel like this is enough, especially when stakeholders keep on suggesting it and I also usually only use it if it really needs to be used.
valera1557 Posted October 25, 2019 #7 Posted October 25, 2019 I do not use 2fA this situation is similar to an iPhone account, let's go in to look at the account and your password will be replaced and the victim will pay for the password change as well.
htetaungxx Posted October 25, 2019 #8 Posted October 25, 2019 As my opnion 2FA is really need and inportant guys. I was got hack my external wallet because of no 2FA. But some time we have to tip during rash hours, like betting or racing. In these time we got a llittle toruble with that 2Fa but is only 1 times guys.
lupandina Posted October 25, 2019 #9 Posted October 25, 2019 Years ago, when we all just started using internet, we took into a habit to use passwords everywhere, and it's already ok, like, by default for everyone. No one is complaining "why I need to type password to login", right? Well, times changing, internet isn't a safe place now, and especially, if it's crypto involved. It's time to take into a habit 2fa too, doesn't matter, we like it or not. Everywhere where it's available, not just "where needed".
cukup2 Posted October 25, 2019 #10 Posted October 25, 2019 I know when someone activates 2fa on their account then to do transactions like rain tips usually like to ask 2fa not just to log in, but if 2fa applies only to keep us logged in maybe it will be very good because if you want to tap or rain then it doesn't need to access 2fa
zulfandina Posted October 25, 2019 #11 Posted October 25, 2019 I think so too, if to get into stake we need a 2fa security code, I think it's commonplace and it is indeed natural for the security of our accounts on stake from people who want to have bad intentions on the account that we have. but as you said, if to make it rain it also requires a 2fa security code, I think it is too troublesome and too annoying, this 2fa security code should only be used for login only, and not for anything else in the features in in stake. this is troublesome for the player in my opinion
sheenazbay Posted October 25, 2019 #12 Posted October 25, 2019 I just knew that I had to use 2fa before giving tips. if anything, I wouldn't activate it, because I like giving tips, and that would make it harder for me to give tips, I only activate 2fa for my account if I login and withdraw
niki014 Posted October 25, 2019 #13 Posted October 25, 2019 2fa is good for tipping like we have it on withdraw dont you think it is good on withdraw id someone gets in you account then why it aint good for tipping xD? i always thought it would be good if they add it like if it is on for withdraw but not for tipping how does it help when if someone gets to your account he could send to his account and cashout from there
Mahdirakib87 Posted October 26, 2019 #14 Posted October 26, 2019 Never faced this. Why they will ask for 2FA while you give tip to your friend! Strange. But it's true stake tells people much to add 2fa. It's for our own safety. To secure our account from hacker.
nuuuitsjdragon Posted October 26, 2019 #15 Posted October 26, 2019 Yes I have experienced the exact same situation! It's so annoying though as the same process needs to be repeated on different devices. I guess it's a small price to pay for a higher level of safety though... ain't nobody gonna complain if they get hacked and their funds are disabled for tipping out. Hmm, does it stop the hacker from clearing your balance via playing though, lol?
SLFJ Posted October 26, 2019 #16 Posted October 26, 2019 Hui's explanation is reasonable, not going to lie.
wyj1306 Posted October 26, 2019 #17 Posted October 26, 2019 I think if someone already logged in using 2fa really would not necessarily need to use for tipa and withdrawal if one didn't want to, there could be an option to choose where one would like to use 2fa or not, it would make it much easier.
zulfandina Posted October 26, 2019 #18 Posted October 26, 2019 23 hours ago, sheenazbay said: I just knew that I had to use 2fa before giving tips. if anything, I wouldn't activate it, because I like giving tips, and that would make it harder for me to give tips, I only activate 2fa for my account if I login and withdraw This should be the case, when it comes to logging in and withdrawing it seems obligatory to use 2fa security, but if only to make it rain it still requires 2fa code. isn't that troublesome enough?
Paecga129 Posted October 26, 2019 #19 Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 3:46 PM, GKD09 said: So just today when I was trying to tip a user, it asked me to enter my 2FA before it would send the tip. I quickly cancelled it because I wasn't bothered to pick up my phone unlock it and get the code just to send that friendly small tip. My question is why was it necessary to add 2FA for even the tips? I'm not sure about rains but at least for tipping it is there. Stake continuously notifies and mentions how important 2FA is to have a secure account - even every time you log in without 2FA. So even with so much awareness why did they have to add this for tipping too? Was there some sort of incidence anyone knows of? You will surely see much less friendly tips going around now. At least I'm sure I won't go the distance to get my phone just to tip someone, for a joke, bet etc etc. Please let it be an option for us to enable/disable when it comes to just tips (and rains). I'd prefer just my account to be secure with 2FA and not most facilities within Stake - for the ones who are careful with their accounts. Hmmm I don’t know as I don’t have this issue at all ? It never asks me for that so I guess I am not sure but I am sure someone here can answer your question.
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