GKD09 Posted December 20, 2019 #1 Posted December 20, 2019 Below are probabilities in percentage and their corresponding payouts, which are the max at each game for a single bet. From the most probable to the least. Dice (9900x) - 0.01%Plinko (1000x) - 0.0015%Limbo (1,000,000x) - 0.000099%Video Poker (800x) - ~0.0000234% ROYAL FLUSH (holding only one card, ending up with a lucky royal flush) Mines (5,148,297x) - 0.00002% 13 MINES / 12 DIAMONDS (or vice versa)Slots (10,000x) - 0.000006% 5 WILDS - 1 PAYOUT LINE (excluding any free spins)Keno (1000x) - 0.00000366% 9/9 HIGH OR MED Excluding Hilo, BlackJack, Baccarat, Diamond Poker, Roulette, Wheel since they don't have such low odds or big payouts, and crash which probably has a max payout of 1,000,000x like Limbo. Games apart from slots, and video poker have their probabilities which can be easily found. So if you wanted to know where I got the values for slots and video poker, read on! Slots Calculation Below are the number of symbols for each wheel starting from the left and their probabilities. (They are also always in the same order, but that is not so important here.) Lastly, calculating the probabilities of each symbol hitting. Starting from hitting 2 of each symbol since hitting one of any gives no payout. Note: Some symbols have a 0x payout even for 2 hits in a row, and therefore their probabilities are excluded. Video Poker Calculation Note that to get a royal flush there could be many ways, from holding 0 cards to holding 5 of them. The above calculation was for holding one out of the 5 cards needed to hit the royal flush of that suit (which is the almost the worst position to be to hit it, and lowest probability to hit the royal flush) . If you are interested to know more, check this old post I've made. Mines Calculation This calculation could be found from a mine calculator online - https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html?m=1 where you simply have to input the number of mines and diamonds.
nuuuitsjdragon Posted December 20, 2019 #2 Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, GKD09 said: Below are probabilities in percentage and their corresponding payouts, which are the max at each game. From the most probable to the least. Dice (9900x) - 0.01%Plinko (1000x) - 0.0015%Limbo (1,000,000x) - 0.000099%Video Poker (800x) - ~0.0000234% ROYAL FLUSH (holding only one card, ending up with a lucky royal flush) Mines (5,148,297x) - 0.00002%Slots (10,000x) - 0.000006% 5 WILDS (1 PAYOUT LINE)Keno (1000x) - 0.00000366% 9/9 HIGH OR MED Excluding Hilo, BlackJack, Baccarat, Diamond Poker, Roulette, Wheel since they don't have such low odds or big payouts, and crash which probably has a max payout of 1,000,000x like Limbo. Games apart from slots, and video poker have their probabilities which can be easily found. So if you wanted to know where I got the values for slots and video poker, read on! Slots Calculation Below are the number of symbols for each wheel starting from the left and their probabilities. (They are also always in the same order, but that is not so important here.) Lastly, calculating the probabilities of each symbol hitting. Starting from hitting 2 of each symbol since hitting one of any gives no payout. Note: Some symbols have a 0x payout even for 2 hits in a row, and therefore their probabilities are excluded. Video Poker Calculation If you are interested to know, it is within this old post I've made. Wow that is a lot of interesting information and statistics which I'm trying to digest. I see the situations being listed with the rarest possibility, which at most times isn't exactly how someone would choose to play/hit. I'm keen to know how does this relate to a player during his/her sessions though? P.S. Surprised that there are actually 3 games below 5mx Mines... where do you think Hi-Lo fits amongst these games?
wyj1306 Posted December 20, 2019 #3 Posted December 20, 2019 Our explanation was perfect, I was amazed by all this information and never imagined that the difficulty to reach 10000x in the slots was so great, and video poker is also very complicated. Thanks for this info.
Shekhar1992GL Posted December 20, 2019 #4 Posted December 20, 2019 Thanks for such valuable information i think so biggest multiplier game in all of this is hilo but getting bigger hit is really too rare. i saw biggest multiplier of around 26,00,000 in Hi-Lo game. but i think so we can get multiplier till we can get highest possible payout of 10 BTC.
mhasandx Posted December 20, 2019 #5 Posted December 20, 2019 thanks for these stats dude. i think dice would be best if you want to profit . but lose money. and for plink. you dont loose your money all at once for chasing the 1000x . also plinko animation is more enjoyable than dice. how much time it took for you u to calculate the odds
Aiza824 Posted December 20, 2019 #6 Posted December 20, 2019 I don't see the essence of this information other than choosing where you should "burn" your coins for miserable high payout hunts. ( LOL I sound so salty on this one! 😂 ) So I did my own math if this is accurate or not... I am just wondering how did you actually obtained the numbers for Limbo/Crash because basically that game can generate a payout that converges to infinity (and not just 1Mx)... Also, the payouts for Hi-Lo and Slots are potentially boundless as well due to the former if the player continues to flip cards and not cashing out and the latter if the scatters would be obtained over another scatters (like inception!) ... Another thing, the games won't be designed to have better chances of winning over the other because if they did it that way then players would quickly abandon a game and prefer to play the other ones for sure. I will follow this post once my analysis is done and confirm the accuracy.
Ayesha0770 Posted December 20, 2019 #7 Posted December 20, 2019 Thanks for a detailed information this really help for newbies and for me too since im new here I need to know all the mechanics of each every game
Omerfrom02 Posted December 20, 2019 #8 Posted December 20, 2019 Wow, interesting topic! Now I can manage and try for these high multipliers sometime I tried Dice to catch 9900x one time but I couldn’t win I was busting so much and left it. Then I tried playing Plinko to catch 1000x payout but I couldn’t do it it took me so much time but not worthy I never caught 1000x payout on plinko and sucks many people take that payout easily in their gambling experience but not me I liked so much this topic it’s helpful and with worthy and helpful informations about Stake casino games
Etude Posted December 20, 2019 #9 Posted December 20, 2019 Ah I find this to be a great source of information being concise in a single post in regards of the maximum possible payouts of the games on Stake, thanks alot!
Thepug Posted December 20, 2019 #10 Posted December 20, 2019 The slots calculation is really interesting and thank you for posting it here. I always wondered how it worked and looking at it now makes it so much easier It is like the mystery behind a magic trick. Once you know how it is done, you can’t unlearn that and the trick is gone forever. I feel like this is similar to slots, since I now know how each round is generate 😛
Xarv Posted December 21, 2019 #11 Posted December 21, 2019 Wow, thank you so much for the amazing post! I had no clue about these stats and now than I can see it I'm glad that I've been sticking to dice lol. Keep up the amazing posts! Love to learn such things.
rararararay08 Posted December 21, 2019 #12 Posted December 21, 2019 Thanks for this dude, now i know that hitting 1000x on keno and plinko is really hard 😆, and wow there is 5m multiplier on mines so high. But did you know what is the highest payout on hi lo too? And crash? Can you some calculations too.
Ali saher Posted December 21, 2019 #13 Posted December 21, 2019 Very nice this information help other users because so many users not know about this I also not know this thing after reading your msg I know about this
sheenazbay Posted December 21, 2019 #14 Posted December 21, 2019 wow, this is a very detailed calculation. I really like to read it. and this is important information and from the calculations above, I can conclude that the hit percentage on the 9900x multiplier on the dice is greater than the hit on 800x on video poker and other games of course
williamshennie9 Posted December 22, 2019 #15 Posted December 22, 2019 What a great summary! I can't believe how easy it seems to hit 9900x on dice, compared to all the other games you listed. I guess I should stop hunting such high payouts on those other games.
GKD09 Posted December 27, 2019 Author #16 Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 5:14 PM, nuuuitsjdragon said: I see the situations being listed with the rarest possibility, which at most times isn't exactly how someone would choose to play/hit. I'm keen to know how does this relate to a player during his/her sessions though? P.S. Surprised that there are actually 3 games below 5mx Mines... where do you think Hi-Lo fits amongst these games? It's just for your information I mean I was interested to know what they were. Im a curious cat. And I'm sure there are many people playing games like plinko, keno, and now slots hoping to hit these huge payouts - without really knowing how tough they are. Hilo will definitely be the game with the highest payout, I reckon. On 12/20/2019 at 6:00 PM, Shekhar1992GL said: i think so biggest multiplier game in all of this is hilo but getting bigger hit is really too rare. i saw biggest multiplier of around 26,00,000 in Hi-Lo game. Yes thats true. I couldnt include Hilo because it doesnt have a fixed multiplier to calculate. You can open 100 cards if im not wrong, and the highest theoretical payout would be hitting A or K 100 times But I mean its safe to say that that wont happen, and the lowest would be going from A to K and back a 100 times, which won't really happen again so I had to exclude it. Although hilo can surely give you a much greater payout than most if not all games. Wow thats a lot of positive feedback Wasn't expecting that many. Cheers! @Aiza824, Limbo states it max payout on the game itself when you try to input a really big number. And @rararararay08, therefore I just claimed that it could be the same for Crash as well, although I really dont know how I could calculate that since it gives us no information about the game, in terms of statistics. On 12/20/2019 at 6:28 PM, Aiza824 said: Also, the payouts for Hi-Lo and Slots are potentially boundless as well due to the former if the player continues to flip cards and not cashing out and the latter if the scatters would be obtained over another scatters (like inception!) Yes that is why I did not include hilo lol. But for slots, and every other game I was giving a probability of hitting the highest multiplier in a single bet - which in that case is 5 wilds. But true scatters can keep hitting and it could keep going. On 12/20/2019 at 6:25 PM, mhasandx said: thanks for these stats dude. i think dice would be best if you want to profit . but lose money. and for plink. you dont loose your money all at once for chasing the 1000x . also plinko animation is more enjoyable than dice. how much time it took for you u to calculate the odds The slots and Video poker royal flush did take some time actually. But I was curious so it didnt feel like a lengthy task.
Moderator maverick528 Posted January 23, 2020 Moderator #17 Posted January 23, 2020 On 12/20/2019 at 11:28 AM, Aiza824 said: I don't see the essence of this information other than choosing where you should "burn" your coins for miserable high payout hunts. ( LOL I sound so salty on this one! 😂 ) So I did my own math if this is accurate or not... I am just wondering how did you actually obtained the numbers for Limbo/Crash because basically that game can generate a payout that converges to infinity (and not just 1Mx)... Also, the payouts for Hi-Lo and Slots are potentially boundless as well due to the former if the player continues to flip cards and not cashing out and the latter if the scatters would be obtained over another scatters (like inception!) ... Another thing, the games won't be designed to have better chances of winning over the other because if they did it that way then players would quickly abandon a game and prefer to play the other ones for sure. I will follow this post once my analysis is done and confirm the accuracy. The max multiplier you can get in Slots does have a theoretical limit, you can search a post I did here in forum where you can see it. Because there IS a limit on the number of freespins you can get and it is 180 freespins.
GKD09 Posted January 23, 2020 Author #19 Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, mgod said: whats the formula on mines? how many bombs Didn't think I needed to add that, but I shall edit the post itself. You can find the multiplier and its probability here from this website. https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html?m=1 If you add in 13 mines and 12 diamonds or vice versa you will get the same answer, which is the highest for mines. It's a pretty handy calculator when you want to check the payout you want to hit beforehand and its odds. Hope it helps!
dkpiiit953 Posted January 23, 2020 #20 Posted January 23, 2020 hello my friends I hope you are well. So if I understood correctly the most advantageous to get the big multiplier is the DICE FINALLY the best game which is the easiest, its does not surprise me, and I see the stats of the slots it's just crazy for a x10,000 only. Thanks now I know which game I'm going to play the most. good day to all the guys
GKD09 Posted January 23, 2020 Author #21 Posted January 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, dkpiiit953 said: So if I understood correctly the most advantageous to get the big multiplier is the DICE FINALLY the best game which is the easiest, its does not surprise me, and I see the stats of the slots it's just crazy for a x10,000 only. No it does not necessarily mean that. But yes the odds of hitting 9900x in dice is far lower and hence easier to hit in terms of number of rolls theoretically. However, most other games including plinko, slots have multipliers in between which could act as a safety net before you hit the biggest multiplier. Whereas on dice you have to wait for that certain number to hit with 0x reds apart from that. So it really depends on how you want to play, but for the people trying to "hunt" 5 wilds, 5 scatters or even 1000x on keno, this is to show that the probability is very low and to make them aware if it matters to them.
LaLiLaP2 Posted January 23, 2020 #22 Posted January 23, 2020 First time playing in this casino. Interesting enough information to familiarize yourself with the casino, thank you.
GKD09 Posted January 23, 2020 Author #23 Posted January 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, LaLiLaP2 said: First time playing in this casino. Interesting enough information to familiarize yourself with the casino, thank you. No worries! Glad I could help out. If you have any questions or anything you may make a post or if its technical you can always contact support. Happy Staking
weswayahe Posted January 26, 2020 #24 Posted January 26, 2020 Mines has the highest payout and I like it, maybe one day I have to start chasing the highest PO in this mines 😁😁.
cryptofly Posted January 26, 2020 #25 Posted January 26, 2020 Thanks for sharing, this topic should be reviewed by all of us. It is clear that each game we play has its own characteristics and we should be aware of the chances of winning in order to not create false expectations in our winnings. Many gamblers, probably me included, had posted many times that we are not agree with the results we got while gambling but in this topic you will find the reason and understand the "why" we get those results. I do once in a while the "one line" bet in Slots and it is clear why I am not getting any result, good result. Thanks for sharing. Good luck.
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