Do I deserve a lossback bonus for this horrific month?

[FuckPD]

Sorry for your losses man . i had -15k in a week ,few weeks back .it really hurts .Never chase your losses 

[MarziasDaddy]

14 hours ago, Jackblack212 said:

Play me if you'd like another one 

That game is cheekssss

[J-Dawg]

dupeddonk cleary works for Stake, and he thinks it's funny to take the mickey out of the punters on Stake

duped-donk

duped - deceive; trick. "the newspaper was duped into publishing an untrue story"

donk - Short for donkey/Jackass.
The term donk is also used to describe a very bad poker. Caution is advised since many may find the term offensive.

So this guy dupeddonk spends 10 hours a day arguing with everyone trying to minimize their views and experiences with some pseudo BS provably fair rubbish, all the while, laughing in everyone's faces, as clearly his user name is meant to say "Hey, look how stupid Stake players are, I can even call myself what I think of the players, and no one will even notice because they are that stupid"

It's not even clever. I'm sure it was funny for his cronies for about a day. Now it's just really sick. 

Don't play Stake Originals, and make a brand new account every time you play. In the long run you will be MUCH better off. 

Best advice though, would be to play with someone who has third party RNGs that are audited and tested.
Or better yet, don't gamble.

But if you really insist, give me half the money you were going to gamble, I'll kick you in the nuts, and we'll call it even.

[dupeddonk]

On 11/9/2021 at 12:09 AM, J-Dawg said:

dupeddonk cleary works for Stake

No I don't.

On 11/9/2021 at 12:09 AM, J-Dawg said:

and he thinks it's funny to take the mickey out of the punters on Stake

Yeah sometimes.  But I wasn't making fun of you when I was taking the time to explain in detail how the results of a plinko bet are calculated. 

If you don't want to feel so stupid, quit making up stupid things and then claiming they are real.  If I wasn't clear and you don't understand something, just say so.  Making something up (like your github, argument, for example) to try and turn things into a pissing match is pointless.  And it makes you look stupid.

If you want to keep attacking me feel free - but why not keep it to one thread so we don't have to play tag like this.

[dupeddonk]

1 hour ago, mmiikkee1520 said:

dupeddonk in full damage control for stake every single day.  of course he works for stake.  why else would he do that? he must spend literally hours on here everyday.  think about why someone might do that.  poopdonk you aren't fooling anyone anymore, and I will be sure to point it out everywhere you go so you don't feed people false hope on stakes 100% fake provably fair.

You do a great job representing the majority of arguments and people who do not understand and are unwilling to learn about the concept of provably fair because they've already convinced themselves that they are a victim to avoid accepting responsibility for their losses.

 

[derekdaddyo]

Hope you make a huge comeback

[dupeddonk]

31 minutes ago, mmiikkee1520 said:

shut the fuck up you lieing sack of shit. go suck on a ghostnipple or something.  it's actually hilarious when you guys start competing on who can give out more info on why prov fair isn't a scam.  it's priceless

That's exactly what I mean.

15 hours ago, dupeddonk said:

You do a great job representing the majority of arguments and people who do not understand and are unwilling to learn about the concept of provably fair because they've already convinced themselves that they are a victim to avoid accepting responsibility for their losses.

If you had a valid argument, I would say someone else would be better suited.  But you don't, so the ad hominem attacks are really all you have to go with - and you're very good at them.

[nuuuitsjdragon]

On 11/5/2021 at 2:37 PM, Ghostnipple said:

Sorry to read about your losses. You are well within your rights to ask for some loss-back bonus. You just have no entitlement to it.

Ignore any references to house edge (unless you made 10million bets), it has no relevance to the majority of players as they bet in small numbers and may never see their win rate approach the win chance value. It is the variance that crucifies the players 

Yes, the variance absolutely slaughters players... which is why I think proper sizing of bets for your current bankroll is detrimental. 

When faced with a seemingly positive streak, I can only imagine how many players (including myself) bet way above the comfortable line - only to bust and then naturally hit decent multipliers with small bets on the come-up.

The more often this situation repeats itself, the hope for recovery becomes increasingly bleaker and eventually, futile. 

[TravvyPatty]

If only u did this at the start of December, ur Christmas bonus would be huge

[Aizel12]

wtf... i mean.. awwww, this shibal hurts.. 

i feel sad on my stat, what more on this one? damn.. 

did you got your lossback bonus?

[Jackblack212]

11 hours ago, Aizel12 said:

wtf... i mean.. awwww, this shibal hurts.. 

i feel sad on my stat, what more on this one? damn.. 

did you got your lossback bonus?

They wouldn't give me one. I lose everything 

12 hours ago, TravvyPatty said:

If only u did this at the start of December, ur Christmas bonus would be huge

If only yeah. it's gonna be the worst Christmas ever 

[dupeddonk]

24 minutes ago, Jackblack212 said:

They wouldn't give me one.

They give your loss back in reloads, which is included in your bonus numbers.

[Shanaya24]

Stake is changing. From the friendly helping out players with big losses to a money eating machine. Complaint after complaint on the forum while in the past you hardly saw one. They should have give you 5k as a lossback. The nonsence of loss back in reloads ? Well winners get also reloads and bonusses. And Stake if you have another paid job on the forum available to react on every anti stake thread just contact me 😅 (not I will not lower me to those practises)

[dupeddonk]

1 hour ago, Shanaya24 said:

They should have give you 5k as a lossback. The nonsence of loss back in reloads ? Well winners get also reloads and bonusses.

Not nonsense.

Your weekly and monthly bonuses are based only on how much you wager.  Your reloads and level up bonuses have a base amount for the amount you wagered, and then if you're down, they increase it based on how much you've lost.  They call it "recent play", but it's loss back.

I would bet more than $5k of the $26k in bonuses he's already received were loss back.

 

 

[skleven]

1 hour ago, Shanaya24 said:

Stake is changing. From the friendly helping out players with big losses to a money eating machine. Complaint after complaint on the forum while in the past you hardly saw one. They should have give you 5k as a lossback. The nonsence of loss back in reloads ? Well winners get also reloads and bonusses. And Stake if you have another paid job on the forum available to react on every anti stake thread just contact me 😅 (not I will not lower me to those practises)

Seeing a big difference in just the last 6 months. And now Stake really needs employees like dupeddonk to even out some of the bumps. There is a LOT of crap going on that is handeled very poorly at this site.

[dupeddonk]

33 minutes ago, skleven said:

Seeing a big difference in just the last 6 months. And now Stake really needs employees like dupeddonk to even out some of the bumps. There is a LOT of crap going on that is handeled very poorly at this site.

I agree there's a lot of crap that's being handled poorly at this site.  And I've agreed with players that bring up legitimate issues that aren't based on irrational conspiracy theories or false/misleading claims.  

OP claimed they wouldn't give him loss back.  They did give him loss back.  He lost it.  It's black and white.

Would appreciate it if you don't spread lies about me anymore.

[Jackblack212]

5 hours ago, Shanaya24 said:

Stake is changing. From the friendly helping out players with big losses to a money eating machine. Complaint after complaint on the forum while in the past you hardly saw one. They should have give you 5k as a lossback. The nonsence of loss back in reloads ? Well winners get also reloads and bonusses. And Stake if you have another paid job on the forum available to react on every anti stake thread just contact me 😅 (not I will not lower me to those practises)

Thank you for being the only person to speak some sense in this damn thread. A money eating machine indeed. Denied me a dollar. Even went straight to the source (eddie) no help 

[Mae1]

Hopefully you will receive some, bet low my dear friend so that at least there is time to recover from it ..hope you get more luckier today 💚

[marzo]

I hope you have more luck again soon! I wish you insane big wins bro! 🍀

[J-Dawg]

Provably fair has been proven to be easy to deploy if you are scamming and totally fallible.

Ergo, dupeddonk if we are to believe what he has to say that he doesn't have an agenda and doesn't work for stake then

a) he must be incredibly stupid with a terrible sense of humor

b) has no intellectual bias and doesn't even know the meaning of research

Just stop spouting your BS dd, anyone with 30 mins can find out that Provably Fair is total horse crap. Shall we get some real programmers on this forum to destroy your BS once and for good? Or will you just keep repeating yourself like some dumb bot until the facts get buried under the BS excuses that are given for what why and how the scamy Provably Fair system works

[dupeddonk]

42 minutes ago, J-Dawg said:

Just stop spouting your BS dd, anyone with 30 mins can find out that Provably Fair is total horse crap. Shall we get some real programmers on this forum to destroy your BS once and for good?

Please do.

I am a programmer and I'd be surprised if you could find anyone that's able to have a rational conversation about the provably fair concept and defend some of the arguments you've attempted to make.

Actually, I know you can't.  Because they are irrational, bad faith arguments.

You: People who talk about provably fair, the source code for these games is not open source, the provably fair system proves nothing if you don't know how the program works.

Me: Shows you the code that stake has published.

You: But it's not on Github so it doesn't count!

 

Seriously... 

(github is a website owned by Microsoft that allows people to share different versions of their code with other people.  There's a lot of open source projects on github, so he's trying to argue that if it's not on github it's not open source)

 

 

[Kamille24]

You should

[skleven]

11 hours ago, dupeddonk said:

I agree there's a lot of crap that's being handled poorly at this site.  And I've agreed with players that bring up legitimate issues that aren't based on irrational conspiracy theories or false/misleading claims.  

OP claimed they wouldn't give him loss back.  They did give him loss back.  He lost it.  It's black and white.

Would appreciate it if you don't spread lies about me anymore.

Sure, you get "loss back", reloads and so on at Stake. But the reason is that you prior to this have given them insane amounts of money. And the way this site works, it don`t matter what you get back. You will also loose that the same way they took your own money. Also... it`s a casino.. Designed to take your money. No way around that.

But my posts is aimed at you, not the OP. If it`s all lies, you really need to change your ways. Why would you go so far in defending Stakes every action if you had nothing to gain? Makes no sense at all. So please don`t act suprised when people assume you get paid to post.

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck...

[dupeddonk]

1 hour ago, skleven said:

Sure, you get "loss back", reloads and so on at Stake. But the reason is that you prior to this have given them insane amounts of money. And the way this site works, it don`t matter what you get back. You will also loose that the same way they took your own money. Also... it`s a casino.. Designed to take your money. No way around that.

But my posts is aimed at you, not the OP. If it`s all lies, you really need to change your ways. Why would you go so far in defending Stakes every action if you had nothing to gain? Makes no sense at all. So please don`t act suprised when people assume you get paid to post.

if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck...

I don't defend stakes every action.  If stake does something I think is wrong I say so, and I have.  I've gotten into it with mods plenty of times and called out stake for not paying out promo money for lame reasons, having sloppy bet archives, prob the most fucked up thing they've done recently is refuse to return the coin that players are sending on the wrong chain.  It's easily recoverable but they just tell the player to basically fuck off, and we're talking 10s of thousands of USD.  I could go on...

But you're using the same mind set that leads you to believe the games are rigged.  You only consider what's right in front of you and then twist that to fit whatever narrative you've already decided is reality.  

If someone right now posted something about you that I knew was false, I would say so.  It wouldn't matter if it were something that made you look good or bad.  And anyone that assumed I was defending or attacking you would be wrong.  All I'm doing is pointing out the truth.

[skleven]

7 minutes ago, dupeddonk said:

I don't defend stakes every action.  If stake does something I think is wrong I say so, and I have.  I've gotten into it with mods plenty of times and called out stake for not paying out promo money for lame reasons, having sloppy bet archives, prob the most fucked up thing they've done recently is refuse to return the coin that players are sending on the wrong chain.  It's easily recoverable but they just tell the player to basically fuck off, and we're talking 10s of thousands of USD.  I could go on...

But you're using the same mind set that leads you to believe the games are rigged.  You only consider what's right in front of you and then twist that to fit whatever narrative you've already decided is reality.  

If someone right now posted something about you that I knew was false, I would say so.  It wouldn't matter if it were something that made you look good or bad.  And anyone that assumed I was defending or attacking you would be wrong.  All I'm doing is pointing out the truth.

So you admit they are scamming people in some way or another. And still you are defending them in other issues? It`s really weird and i hope you see that. Isn`t that kinda like saying Hitler was very nice to his dog, so he couldn`t have been that bad? Extreme example, but i`m sure you get my point.