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I hate when we in self-exclusion but we are unable to claim any weekly

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1 minute ago, Markgag said:

I think it sort of makes sense. Taking a break means taking a break

yeah i mean its completely fine for not able to gambling , withdraw , deposits . what's up with the 'disabling' claim weekly . what if i didn't claim the weekly , the money goes back to Stake .

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24 minutes ago, bonusbuyuntilma said:

yeah i mean its completely fine for not able to gambling , withdraw , deposits . what's up with the 'disabling' claim weekly . what if i didn't claim the weekly , the money goes back to Stake .

I think it depends how long you self exclude for. I think you can claim weekly for a week?

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Tristan Proficient

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This wont happen.

We will not allow users to claim any sort of funds while under Self Exclusion, as this incentivizes them to use our Casino and literally defeats the purpose of why a user would request Self Exclusion.

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2 minutes ago, Tristan said:

This wont happen.

We will not allow users to claim any sort of funds while under Self Exclusion, as this incentivizes them to use our Casino and literally defeats the purpose of why a user would request Self Exclusion.

If you're self excluded, you can't play. I think it would be good (for players, not for Stake obviously) to be able to claim your weekly/monthly while under Self Exclusion and withdraw it to your crypto wallet.

I don't see how claiming your weekly/monthly incentivizes you to play while under Self Exclusion.

I would self exclude myself right now if I knew I'll be able to claim my monthly.

skleven Mentor

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So the self excusion does not prevent you from logging in? What kind of bs is that? 

On 12/31/2021 at 8:43 AM, Markgag said:

I think it sort of makes sense. Taking a break means taking a break

This! 👆

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28 minutes ago, mementomori said:

If you're self excluded, you can't play. I think it would be good (for players, not for Stake obviously) to be able to claim your weekly/monthly while under Self Exclusion and withdraw it to your crypto wallet.

I don't see how claiming your weekly/monthly incentivizes you to play while under Self Exclusion.

I would self exclude myself right now if I knew I'll be able to claim my monthly.

The purpose of self exclusion is to stop gambling; self exclusion is not meant to stop the incentive to gamble, necessarily. If  your bonus was contingent on wagering requirements, I could see the detriment of offering further bonuses... because you must necessarily wager in order to cash out. This "literally would defeat the purpose of why a user would self exclude." The fact that a (restriction-free) bonus is offered, however, does not necessitate further gambling... this is especially true when the user literally cannot access the betting portion of their Stake account-- if they can only withdraw those funds. Assuming those bonus funds were based on merit-- that they were earned by the user--, denying those "bonuses" almost appears punitive in nature.

On the other hand, I understand Tristan's point. They're not suppose to entice further gambling after self exclusion-- no bonuses, no promo emails. (I'd be surprised if you could still access your account.) Otherwise, you'd probably hame some claim to losses should you continue depositing. So, I commend Stake for taking self exclusion seriously. But yeah.. It's unfortunate to see the opposite effect take place (i.e., self-exclusion avoided for the sake of bonuses as opposed to bonuses avoided to ensure you'll self exclude as needed). 

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from what i see it's a total dickmove from stake. tbh as players wanted to self-exclude , good for them . ( personally i self-exclude myself for 1 week so i can enjoy my new year holidays without gambling ) guess what ? i will loss all my weekly bonus , promos ( eddie guaranteed refund ) . good shit stake. yes , it was on TOS , but why the hell we cant claim any bonus from it ?

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Why would you have different expectations for an internet based casino than for one that is a brick and mortar operation?  Self exclude from a physical casino and then ask them if you are still entitled to enjoy benefits during your exclusion.  Such an arrangement would not even be considered.  No hatred here, Ghostnipple.  You've always struck me as intelligent and articulate, and I have nothing critical to say about you.  Just being real here-----it's a fairly preposterous notion to suggest

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I predict sometime in the next several years there after enough studies are done it will become well known that hourly/daily reloads cause more people to get more addicted to gambling than any other promotional tool a casino uses.  By a lot.

This thread just made me realize in addition to the obvious reasons, they also discourage players from self excluding.

5 hours ago, Ghostnipple said:

First 3 paragraphs perfectly reasonable they are stating the procedure, however the last paragraph does a sharp left hand turn into dreamland in which "you are to blame for everything" "stake make no mistakes, and if they do make mistakes its your fault".

I disagree.  They should do everything possible to discourage all selfexcluded players from even considering visiting the site. If you selfexclude from a live casino and step foot on property you are trespassing and could be arrested.  If you put $100 in a slot machine or buy chips, the casino is obligated to seize the money and give it turn it over to the Gaming Regulator as soon they are aware of your presence.  I think Stake should take the same approach and tell the player any balance remaining when it's discovered they are playing while self excluded will be donated to charity.  Maybe even let them choose the charity from a list when they self exclude.

There should be no upside for a player to visit a casino where they self excluded - especially a financial incentive.

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18 minutes ago, Ghostnipple said:

I have stated this many times the concept of betting responsibly is at odds with the practice of Ten minute reloads.
The ten minute reloads ensure that the player bets in greater volume.
Larger wager volume = greater player loss.

 

You see this strategy on land-based casinos also. You are a much more valuable player if you spend 5k over a session of 8 hours, than a player who comes in and put the whole 5k on red and leave. 

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So there's a thing, most casino's don't even let you login while you are self exclude, but most casino's don't have the bonuses the way stakes delivers them. 

I can put myself limits on poker stars and still be able to claim the weekend chest as example.

Maybe there could be a change in this..somehow, but another problem i find actually is that codes expire.

If I do on mozzart a 3months exclusion, just had one that expired on 31st of december, and I login, I get all the monday cashback i had 3 months ago as bonus. On stake the codes expires.

So i am no promoting other casino's i am just saying what is my experience with the places where I play.

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12 hours ago, Ghostnipple said:

. All that matters is how much went into the casino and how much came back out.

correct and seeing what Stake is spending on weekly's monthly's sponsorships etc. etc. i really doubt the RTP. In fact is there any control on that ?

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