remyred Posted February 13, 2022 #1 Posted February 13, 2022 if i start with 50 dollars on dice doing 1 dollar bets 50/50 and lose 3 in a row then win 2 in a row on 2 dollar bets why am i down 3 dollars????????? look at this screenshot it doesnt even record the win.. and then when i check bet transactions i get this im literally being scammed and live support isnt doing this about it these pictures literally make 0 sense and contradict them selves ????????????????????????????????????
SheldonCooper Posted February 13, 2022 #2 Posted February 13, 2022 thats just crazy.. just checked both 2$ bets and the winner say 87.70 like second winner on screen but the looser say 7.69 and screen say 77.41 just now saw that there is 4x2$ bets on transaction which suggest you were playing in 2 browsers because checked the second winner in transactions which say 77.41 so the 2 losing bets of the 2$ ones wasnt made on same browser window as the 2 winners..
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #3 Posted February 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, SheldonCooper said: thats just crazy.. just checked both 2$ bets and the winner say 87.70 like second winner on screen but the looser say 7.69 and screen say 77.41 just now saw that there is 4x2$ bets on transaction which suggest you were playing in 2 browsers because checked the second winner in transactions which say 77.41 so the 2 losing bets of the 2$ ones wasnt made on same browser window as the 2 winners.. yea literally why would i play on 2 different browsers its literally a scam, and it makes 0 sense and live support doesnt give a fuck look at the 2nd picture it literally shows i won 2 in a row
AleksandarZ Posted February 13, 2022 #4 Posted February 13, 2022 Hi there @remyred As I can see everything is ok since both winning bets are here casino:75013339146 (77.41) and casino:75013342580 (87.70)
KevinS1994 Posted February 13, 2022 #5 Posted February 13, 2022 You can check sorted bets on Transaction Page then Bets
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #6 Posted February 13, 2022 6 hours ago, SheldonCooper said: thats just crazy.. just checked both 2$ bets and the winner say 87.70 like second winner on screen but the looser say 7.69 and screen say 77.41 just now saw that there is 4x2$ bets on transaction which suggest you were playing in 2 browsers because checked the second winner in transactions which say 77.41 so the 2 losing bets of the 2$ ones wasnt made on same browser window as the 2 winners.. 3 hours ago, AleksandarZ said: Hi there @remyred As I can see everything is ok since both winning bets are here casino:75013339146 (77.41) and casino:75013342580 (87.70) ok but look at my first pic i was spinning my self u can clearly see i won 2 in a row. why does it say theres a loss in the middle??????? literally makes 0 sense i literally did the bet seen i won and watched my balance go down but now ur bet transactions are saying i lost one between the 2? where???? like i dont even care about 4 dollars but it makes me wonder how many times i had auto spin on and won and didnt get paid
AleksandarZ Posted February 13, 2022 #7 Posted February 13, 2022 This kind of thing usually happens when you play in two different windows or browsers. So if something like this happens again just check your nonce, and you will see that everything is where it should be.
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #8 Posted February 13, 2022 so let me get this straight, u think i gambled in one browser on the same exact game with the same exact bet on 2 different browsers? now why in the hell would i do that literally makes 0 sense. i watched it hit and these made up bets popped up. literally its a glitch on ur end and u should honor thatt when i show proof and refund me my 4 dollars
AleksandarZ Posted February 13, 2022 #9 Posted February 13, 2022 There is not such a thing as made-up bets. These are your bets: casino:75013339146 (77.41) casino:75013340915(7.69) casino:75013342580 (87.70) So as you can see everything is okay on our end, and you can always find these bets if you like. Account menu- transactions- bets. or you can go to the bet archive and download your bet history.
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #10 Posted February 13, 2022 explain to me then how its green twice on dice but when u scroll down and look at "my bets" theres no 2 consequtive wins????? 1 hour ago, AleksandarZ said: This kind of thing usually happens when you play in two different windows or browsers. So if something like this happens again just check your nonce, and you will see that everything is where it should be. 17 minutes ago, AleksandarZ said: There is not such a thing as made-up bets. These are your bets: casino:75013339146 (77.41) casino:75013340915(7.69) casino:75013342580 (87.70) So as you can see everything is okay on our end, and you can always find these bets if you like. Account menu- transactions- bets. or you can go to the bet archive and download your bet history. 5 hours ago, AleksandarZ said: Hi there @remyred As I can see everything is ok since both winning bets are here casino:75013339146 (77.41) and casino:75013342580 (87.70) on the 2nd picture. that bet never happened is what im trying to explain it literally makes 0 sense
AleksandarZ Posted February 13, 2022 #11 Posted February 13, 2022 But it did happen, your bet id and nonce prove that. The screenshot is not valid proof, the only thing that is valid is the bet ID and nonce.
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #12 Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, AleksandarZ said: But it did happen, your bet id and nonce prove that. The screenshot is not valid proof, the only thing that is valid is the bet ID and nonce. ok explain to me where u see 7.69 on dice on the top
AleksandarZ Posted February 13, 2022 #13 Posted February 13, 2022 I told you that the screenshot proves nothing and that something like that is only possible while playing on more than one window.
remyred Posted February 13, 2022 Author #14 Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, AleksandarZ said: I told you that the screenshot proves nothing and that something like that is only possible while playing on more than one window. yea well i didnt i literally have it recorded sent it to customer support, for some reason i cant post the video here, clearly a fault on stake end should be honored im plat 3, not some noob player, literally a fault on ur end just want my 4 dollars im questioning every time i had auto spin on and won and didnt get paid
skleven Posted February 13, 2022 #16 Posted February 13, 2022 I have seen so many glitches in the Stake originals. Tried to report them at first, but stopped bothering after a while. I guess the bad coding in the games combined with really bad servers makes it impossible to work 100%. Support and our "community manager" will state the oposite, but they are either lying or uneducated on the subject.
remyred Posted February 14, 2022 Author #17 Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, skleven said: I have seen so many glitches in the Stake originals. Tried to report them at first, but stopped bothering after a while. I guess the bad coding in the games combined with really bad servers makes it impossible to work 100%. Support and our "community manager" will state the oposite, but they are either lying or uneducated on the subject. say it louder there ignorant, they dont understand a simple picture, it clearly shows i did 5 bets on my screen but i somehow did 7 on the bet transactions clearly a glitch but they dont care and tbh idc about 4 dollars but it makes me question every bet ive ever done on this site now, literally these kids werent taught that its okay to admit that ur wrong.
dupeddonk Posted February 16, 2022 #18 Posted February 16, 2022 Change your player seed (click on verify, then rotate seed), then go back to one of the bets to get the now revealed server seed. Post the player (client) seed and server seed that you now see, along with the last nonce from this session, then we will be able to go back and look at every every rolled number. Edit: Actually you don't have to post anything, just rotate your client seed and I can see the rest from one of the bet ids @AleksandarZ posted.
Ornietv Posted February 16, 2022 #19 Posted February 16, 2022 @dupeddonk is a crime scene investigator he will solve the issue.
dupeddonk Posted February 16, 2022 #20 Posted February 16, 2022 client seed: uijnlk server seed: 74abf6a8cecaf24badc83daa549ccaecb848b608efea29f250488e61bb844045 77.41 was nonce 1284 87.70 was nonce 1286 It's not displaying nonce 1285, which was a 7.69 There are lots possibilities on why it's not displayed. They really don't matter though because the outcome isn't determined by what your browser displays. What determines the outcome is your client seed and the server seed hashed with each nonce. You're kind of making the same argument people make with plinko when they see a ball go somewhere and they don't get paid. It doesn't matter what you see, you aren't betting on what the animations will do. You're betting on the result that's determined by the seed pair + nonce. tldr; you didn't get scammed. You thought you won, but you didn't, and that sucks, but it's time to stop crying.
Zakdem001 Posted February 16, 2022 #21 Posted February 16, 2022 they can be sometimes busy don't know but most of the time they are helping
remyred Posted February 17, 2022 Author #22 Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, dupeddonk said: client seed: uijnlk server seed: 74abf6a8cecaf24badc83daa549ccaecb848b608efea29f250488e61bb844045 77.41 was nonce 1284 87.70 was nonce 1286 It's not displaying nonce 1285, which was a 7.69 There are lots possibilities on why it's not displayed. They really don't matter though because the outcome isn't determined by what your browser displays. What determines the outcome is your client seed and the server seed hashed with each nonce. You're kind of making the same argument people make with plinko when they see a ball go somewhere and they don't get paid. It doesn't matter what you see, you aren't betting on what the animations will do. You're betting on the result that's determined by the seed pair + nonce. tldr; you didn't get scammed. You thought you won, but you didn't, and that sucks, but it's time to stop crying. the thing is, i did 5 bets by hand, they were not auto bets 3 were on 1 dollar bets which were lost and 2 on 2 dollar bets that were won. but whenh i click bet transactions it says 7? even in that picture on top it literally shows only 5 bets were done? so unless u can explain to me how an extra 2 bets which were lost done then ur arguement doesnt matter as well
TheHeanster Posted February 17, 2022 #23 Posted February 17, 2022 This is really quite typical of Stake. In the real world were customer service actually exists, this guy would be listened to and the issue would be resolved. Support; try and better understand the customer's journey and you will do much better at supporting the community. Try listening to what the customer is saying. The attitude of support at Stake was a big decider in me moving on to a different casino. But I still log in everyday and add 10% to my balance. 🤑
skrubreker Posted February 17, 2022 #24 Posted February 17, 2022 you lost 5$ and won 2$? bro go to school
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