Jarjarsim Posted June 17, 2022 #1 Posted June 17, 2022 Stake is clearly stealing our money on the stake original blackjack. Indeed, mid hand the dealer's card sometimes change in order to give him a win. You'll get a bj each 50/60 hands while the dealer will get at least 10 for the same amounts of hands. Even following the maths and blackjack strat there is basically nothing you can do. And if by any chance you can win 3 or 4 hand in a row you can be sure you will then loose 7/10 hands in row afterward. Full scam and full bullshit. Oh and obviously the only answer from stake is : "you can check provablyfair". Lmao since when should i believe something or someone that you probably paid millions to rigged the system for you. After one year playing on stake i'll soon quit this site who just became as shitty as the most fishy online casinos.
Jad Posted June 17, 2022 #2 Posted June 17, 2022 the problem is that you have to look at millions of bet nor 20/30 bets
Jarjarsim Posted June 17, 2022 Author #3 Posted June 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jad said: the problem is that you have to look at millions of bet nor 20/30 bets That's the typical bs that stake is saying. House edge might have been calculated on a trillion bets still there is impossible odds happening on stake so to me their house edge is a lie such as their provably fair thing. Go on live BJ you won't get anywhere close to the bullshit happening on the original.
J-Dawg Posted June 17, 2022 #4 Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Ghostnipple said: There are so many people complaining about that blackjack game. IT seems to be the one game that receives the most scam accusations, well that and crash. If you play perfect blackjack strategy as the casino recommends, aren't you basically telling them how you are going to play each hand ahead of time. Yes, but if they aren't changing the cards or altering the decks i.e. playing a completely normal game of blackjack, then it doesn't matter if they know how you are going to play. Everyone knows how the dealer plays. Dealers stands on 17 or above and will hit until that is achieved or busts. But we all know, where computers are involved, it's not normal blackjack, it's a blackjack experience. It's not based on the classic card game from back in the day. Even live Blackjack, they've made it now where there's 6+ decks of cards, and all they have to do is remove a couple low cards from each of the decks in the shoe, and it gives the house a 50% edge, not the advertised 1% edge as with real blackjack.
Support FilipN Posted June 17, 2022 Support #5 Posted June 17, 2022 Hey there. We understand that gambling is naturally a volatile activity, and it can often result in losses and frustration. At the end of the day, this is entirely a matter of luck, and there's no reason for you to suspect otherwise. Still, we truly hope that things will change for you and you get a lucky streak on your next session. 🍀 Stake itself is one of the most popular and trusted crypto Casino and Sportsbook. If you have any doubts, you can check this third party verification tool and where you can confirm that our site is provably fair:https://www.provablyfair.me/stake-verifier/ Here is the short video where you can see how the provably fair system actually works: https://cryptogambling.org/ In case you are not sure how to verify bets, you may check this tutorial: https://forum.stake.com/topic/7293-bet-verification-provably-fair/ Note that features above only pertains to Stake Original games. Third party slot games don't use this system, and are not handled by Stake directly. They are entirely handled by the providers themselves, and we merely offer them on our platform on their behalf. Still, they are massively popular worldwide, which should attest to their fairness, as they are audited as well. If you need any additional help, feel free to contact us here again! 😊
NikiF Posted June 17, 2022 #6 Posted June 17, 2022 Ahahaha FilipN really? let's try to play this game and show how to win 10 hands in a row with a bet of at least 1 dollar, but I can show you how I constantly see 10-15 losses in a row at a bet, but and maximum of 3-4 wins in a row . always play only with zero bets ))) really fair u can see 19 hands without win in my screen, really fair ))) ahahahaha
Shanaya24 Posted June 17, 2022 #7 Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, FilipN said: Stake itself is one of the most popular and trusted crypto Casino and Sportsbook. Ah remembering the good old times too when this was true. Now it seems Stake is becoming the Casino with the most complaints reading not only here but Twitter, other forums etc.
alokvishal Posted June 17, 2022 #8 Posted June 17, 2022 I don’t understand why someone would not play live Black Jack and instead play Stake Originals. If the bet size is above 1$, Live BJ is always recommended and certainly has better odds than stake originals bj.
Jarjarsim Posted June 17, 2022 Author #9 Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, FilipN said: Hey there. We understand that gambling is naturally a volatile activity, and it can often result in losses and frustration. At the end of the day, this is entirely a matter of luck, and there's no reason for you to suspect otherwise. Still, we truly hope that things will change for you and you get a lucky streak on your next session. 🍀 Stake itself is one of the most popular and trusted crypto Casino and Sportsbook. If you have any doubts, you can check this third party verification tool and where you can confirm that our site is provably fair:https://www.provablyfair.me/stake-verifier/ Here is the short video where you can see how the provably fair system actually works: https://cryptogambling.org/ In case you are not sure how to verify bets, you may check this tutorial: https://forum.stake.com/topic/7293-bet-verification-provably-fair/ Note that features above only pertains to Stake Original games. Third party slot games don't use this system, and are not handled by Stake directly. They are entirely handled by the providers themselves, and we merely offer them on our platform on their behalf. Still, they are massively popular worldwide, which should attest to their fairness, as they are audited as well. If you need any additional help, feel free to contact us here again! 😊 Nice copy and paste from the support pool of message. once again your answer isn't one, once again now i don't trust stake and i clearly don't trust provablyfair. Stake is well know to give some extra money to some players i'm pretty sure you did the same with provablyfair owner. Everyone is complaining about your scam, stop answer the same bs over and over and fix it !
jungl3 Posted June 17, 2022 #10 Posted June 17, 2022 11 hours ago, FilipN said: If you have any doubts, you can check this third party verification tool and where you can confirm that our site is provably fair:https://www.provablyfair.me/stake-verifier/ It's hosted by the same company and is on the same IP range as https://www.mebit.io/ You'll notice provablyme listed there under their partners, alongside stake and primedice. For all intents and purposes, provablyme is controlled by the same people who control stake. Why say that it's third party when it's very clearly connected? It's a partner company, at the very least.. shared interests. It raises questions about the other sites mentioned on provablyfair. If I suspected stake of cheating, I'd keep my eyes open when playing on those sites and at least look for similar patterns of gameplay. I'm not disputing the results on provablyfair, but find issue in you pretending that there's more distance than there is between stake and provablyfair.
sykosinatra Posted June 17, 2022 #11 Posted June 17, 2022 12 hours ago, FilipN said: Hey there. We understand that gambling is naturally a volatile activity, and it can often result in losses and frustration. At the end of the day, this is entirely a matter of luck, and there's no reason for you to suspect otherwise. Still, we truly hope that things will change for you and you get a lucky streak on your next session. 🍀 Stake itself is one of the most popular and trusted crypto Casino and Sportsbook. If you have any doubts, you can check this third party verification tool and where you can confirm that our site is provably fair:https://www.provablyfair.me/stake-verifier/ Here is the short video where you can see how the provably fair system actually works: https://cryptogambling.org/ In case you are not sure how to verify bets, you may check this tutorial: https://forum.stake.com/topic/7293-bet-verification-provably-fair/ Note that features above only pertains to Stake Original games. Third party slot games don't use this system, and are not handled by Stake directly. They are entirely handled by the providers themselves, and we merely offer them on our platform on their behalf. Still, they are massively popular worldwide, which should attest to their fairness, as they are audited as well. If you need any additional help, feel free to contact us here again! 😊 "Provable fair" is only a buzzword. Blackjack Originals is the biggest scam. It is painful to think about how fucking rigged it is.
imalexjoe Posted June 17, 2022 #12 Posted June 17, 2022 Every games has own scam, without scam they will loss tons of $ everyday i think. It's been longtime I'm playing, i didn't see the profit door yet.
sykosinatra Posted June 17, 2022 #13 Posted June 17, 2022 57 minutes ago, imalexjoe said: Every games has own scam, without scam they will loss tons of $ everyday i think. It's been longtime I'm playing, i didn't see the profit door yet. Yea but their blackjack takes it to another level. They algorithm is painfully obvious whenever you double down, double your bet, never busts on low cards, insurances every 3 rounds, and the story goes on.
PaulieWalnuts Posted June 17, 2022 #14 Posted June 17, 2022 I've won over 100k playing stake blackjack. My win ratio from 15k games is 46% (not counting draws). It's not rigged, it's just a casino. For every winner there's a thousand losers. And on a long enough timeline, every winner will become a loser. 17 hours ago, alokvishal said: I don’t understand why someone would not play live Black Jack and instead play Stake Originals. If the bet size is above 1$, Live BJ is always recommended and certainly has better odds than stake originals bj. I don't find it easier to win on Live. And in any case the gameplay is way too slow. I can make thousands on small bets in a couple of hours playing Stake Blackjack. On live that would take days.
topz30 Posted June 18, 2022 #15 Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, PaulieWalnuts said: I've won over 100k playing stake blackjack. My win ratio from 15k games is 46% (not counting draws). It's not rigged, it's just a casino. For every winner there's a thousand losers. And on a long enough timeline, every winner will become a loser. I don't find it easier to win on Live. And in any case the gameplay is way too slow. I can make thousands on small bets in a couple of hours playing Stake Blackjack. On live that would take days. 100k? nice! do you have any type of betting sequence?
PaulieWalnuts Posted June 18, 2022 #17 Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, topz30 said: 100k? nice! do you have any type of betting sequence? I just martingale, and am disciplined/unemotional about it. I only increase bet if I lose, I always stand on 16, and I almost never double down unless I have 10/11 against 5/6. It's also really important to start with low bets, a dollar or even 50c, so that you don't hit the bet limit too soon when you go on a losing streak (which you will). Its a grind, honestly. The vast majority of your wins/losses will be 1-10 bucks, but you can easily do 100+ games in 30 minutes. That's about 90% of the time. The other 10% of the games will be when you've lost a few hands, doubling your bet each time, and you suddenly get blackjack or have a great opportunity to double your bet against a bad dealer hand. That's where you might make the most money, but it's like a bonus - it's not the goal. If you start playing for the 'big win' you'll get killed. But even with all of this, and good strategy, I've hit the bet limit a few times and been very close to losing all my winnings. I mentioned above that my win ratio is 46% - that sounds good but even 1% losses can be the difference between winning a lot and losing literally everything you won. So it's definitely still very risky. Edit: I don't think this is my biggest win, but it's one that stands out, because I was on a ten game losing streak, then this shit happens 😄 EOS was about $2.80 at the time.
NikiF Posted June 19, 2022 #19 Posted June 19, 2022 Again and again best fair game by stake bj, always u can win only with zero bets after loose all ur money.
PaulieWalnuts Posted June 19, 2022 #20 Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, NikiF said: Again and again best fair game by stake bj, always u can win only with zero bets after loose all ur money Read my post above for a betting strategy. And understand that it's a casino and even with a good strategy you can still lose everything.
k3sk1c Posted June 19, 2022 #21 Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 2:42 AM, Jad said: the problem is that you have to look at millions of bet nor 20/30 bets That is true,well said mate!
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