vrecluse Posted June 26, 2022 #1 Posted June 26, 2022 Hi there everyone, I'm sure you've heard this a lot, Stake Original is a scam, yes we've all heard that, however this post will be different, make sure you pay attention and be careful. I was playing Slide, and on Auto-bet, with increase on loss with a certain %, so every time it loses, it increases the bet, I'm not going to explain how all of that works but those who uses it knows what I'm talking about. And then while I was eating my food and watching my screen, I realized I lost but in an odd way, so I investigated. It actually gave me a loss, when the result was a win, the auto-betting registered it as a loss, in your bet transactions it registers it as a win, however, it didn't pay out, but says it did. Here's actual video proof to make you understand what I mean, slide actually gave me the result of 0.00x, but upon clicking on that, it actually showed me a different result, slide on my end thought it was a loss, so it didn't pay out, but the actual result would've been a win. This video is age restricted to 18+ by YouTube, so you have to sign in to view it, because this is gambling after all. Be careful guys, make sure you check those bets when you find it weird, one by one, after all even the bets can be changed with Stake Originals, and all this provability fair crap is just pure bs. Edit: The purpose of this video is to educate everyone here what's going on with these games, and to be aware, this video is not about me losing, as you can see the bet was very small so it doesn't matter, but it has happened with bigger bets, this video was a test to fish out this so called "bug". It was many hours of betting before I finally caught it.
kayttobr Posted June 26, 2022 #2 Posted June 26, 2022 this is the post i needed thank u. i knew something was fishy!! i posted about this the other day about slide and crash... the results should be the same for everyone but when you have a group of friends playing you will easily realize one of your friends will yell out he lost when everyone else won... and when he checks his bet... it was actually a win!!
vrecluse Posted June 26, 2022 Author #3 Posted June 26, 2022 Yes indeed, I think everyone just needs to be aware right now until we have Stake respond to this.
dupeddonk Posted June 26, 2022 #4 Posted June 26, 2022 Looks like a visual bug that showed 0.00x The outcome was 6.16x. SlideGame: 48b27c25-f7e5-4bf8-b86a-510c673d9aef Assuming you're Virtz62 (seems similar, I could be wrong) It also appears you lost 3 separate wagers, with 100x, 500x and 1000x targets. I don't see any 1.5x wager made from you, and don't see in the video proof that it was made. Either way, all 1.5x bets were paid as winners in the leaderboard for that wager.
vrecluse Posted June 26, 2022 Author #5 Posted June 26, 2022 No, I am not Virtz or whoever you're talking about. It is not a "visual bug" it says it paid out, but it didn't, the balance doesn't increase. Stop trying to defend this when its caught red handed. Second of all, the auto-bet also counts it as a loss, and it further increases your bet, which is the main problem here, it doesn't reset to your initial bet. Luckily for me I was just testing this out to finally figure it, I didn't lose nearly to nothing this time, but previous to this I've lost a lot.
dupeddonk Posted June 26, 2022 #6 Posted June 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, vrecluse said: No, I am not Virtz or whoever you're talking about. It is not a "visual bug" it says it paid out, but it didn't, the balance doesn't increase. Stop trying to defend this when its caught red handed. Second of all, the auto-bet also counts it as a loss, and it further increases your bet, which is the main problem here, it doesn't reset to your initial bet. Luckily for me I was just testing this out to finally figure it, I didn't lose nearly to nothing this time, but previous to this I've lost a lot. I'm not defending anything, just stating facts. It displayed 0.0x I'm your video and the result was 6.16x, which is verifiable, so it was a visual bug, I've seen the same thing happen in crash before. If what you're saying is true, and you weren't paid for the win, then obviously that's an issue. But the only thing you've proven is that it displayed the wrong result. It appears from the bet log that all bets were paid according to the correct outcome. Can you show the bet log where it says you won, I'm not seeing any bet in the leader board that matches your claim.
kayttobr Posted June 26, 2022 #7 Posted June 26, 2022 i tried the same settings as u and here is my result.. the bet will never show up cuz , it actually disappears!! i was testing this myeslf and was paying attention to my bets, the actual bet never really appears in betting history, it's just gone, however it takes the money! my initial bet was $0.005, i forgot to mention this in the vid.. but as we can see in the final bet i made, the bet was a payout of $0.02 after winning.. which only would happen if i had a loss prior to that.. that loss never appeared. in fact the last bet before the 1.68x was the payout of the $0.17, the 1.98x result. however, this happens also if its a win, it wont appear, it just says 0.00x, and takes the money.. and no proof of it in the history!!
vrecluse Posted June 26, 2022 Author #8 Posted June 26, 2022 Dude what on earth are you talking about? It will say it paid out but it doesn't, it's simple as that.
skizzoskill Posted June 26, 2022 #9 Posted June 26, 2022 It happened to me on plinko.. I’ve just hit 1000x but it didn't pay..he pays 26x and many 130x but didn't pay.. or it pays but not the amount what I’ve hit.. I hit 130x but pays 26 or less.
Thailan Posted June 26, 2022 #10 Posted June 26, 2022 in plinko my red ball was pierced some dots around 1000x ... it didnt bounced or stopped just gone directly to 4x from 1 dot above 1000x 🤬 So the meaning is : if they want you to win or loose you cant do anything....
skizzoskill Posted June 26, 2022 #11 Posted June 26, 2022 I think the house always wins.. those are the rules. A day before I hit 1000x 2 times in a row within a few hours.. and the day before I hit 1000x 1$ 😡 and It went to 26x.. I don’t know exactly how it works.. but it is a shame what is happening..😳
vrecluse Posted June 27, 2022 Author #13 Posted June 27, 2022 Thanks for everyones contribution to this post and bringing attention around it, I still think we need to address these issues as if they truly want you to lose on these games, then be transparent about it and don't tell us that you dont manipulate anything and it's all proven by "provably fair" bullsht. Regardless, I urge everyone to record their screens when they play stake, a lot of shady things are going on and I've lost a lot of money due to it, but now I started recording my screen, everytime I open the website.
dupeddonk Posted June 27, 2022 #14 Posted June 27, 2022 6 hours ago, vrecluse said: Dude what on earth are you talking about? It will say it paid out but it doesn't, it's simple as that. I'm talking about the topic of this thread. You say that your transaction history shows the bet as a winner, but you weren't paid. And in your video it shows you were betting $0.04 with a 1.5x multi target, but when I look at the results for that round, there aren't any $0.04 bets with a 1.5x target. Can you post more details and double check you aren't mistaken? Maybe it was the bet before or after. It's an easy mistake to make. If you aren't mistaken, then you've really got something and just need to post the rest of the details of what happened - specifically the transaction that shows you wagered during that round.
vrecluse Posted June 27, 2022 Author #15 Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, dupeddonk said: I'm talking about the topic of this thread. You say that your transaction history shows the bet as a winner, but you weren't paid. And in your video it shows you were betting $0.04 with a 1.5x multi target, but when I look at the bet results, there aren't any $0.04 bets with a 1.5x target. Can you post more details and double check you aren't mistaken? Maybe it was the bet before or after. It's an easy mistake to make. You're such delusional character, if you knew anything about auto-betting you would know that my bet amount on the video was not referring to the bet amount I was showing as 0.00x, as we can clearly see it was the previous bet. Stop smoking whatever you're smoking and wake the fk up will you? Even Stake support confirmed this is not how it should be and it is a mistake, and the developers are looking into it now
dupeddonk Posted June 27, 2022 #16 Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, vrecluse said: You're such delusional character, if you knew anything about auto-betting you would know that my bet amount on the video was not referring to the bet amount I was showing as 0.00x, as we can clearly see it was the previous bet. Stop smoking whatever you're smoking and wake the fk up will you? Even Stake support confirmed this is not how it should be and it is a mistake, and the developers are looking into it now I try not to respond to personal attacks or let them derail a discussion. Are you willing to share the evidence?
vrecluse Posted June 27, 2022 Author #17 Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, dupeddonk said: I try not to respond to personal attacks or let them derail a discussion. Are you willing to share the evidence? I dislike people like you that constantly kisses butts of Stake and always tries to find a way to protect them even though we all know there are mistakes and scams, we've seen it everywhere, on screenshots, videos, and even on Livestreams, luckily for the streamers they have thousands of people watching, so stake is forced to correct their mistake. I've shared plenty of evidence, so have other people here, again this post wasn't made as a discussion and for me to go back and forth with you to make you feel better. This post was made solely for the reason to make everyone aware of what's happening, this is not a bug, this is an intended code. A visual bug doesn't trigger certain variables on the website and fetches snippets of codes that shouldn't be fetched if the variable is not met. In this case, you clearly don't know anything about coding, but if this was a visual bug (which is client sided) and not server sided, then the auto-betting would've ignored that visual bug, and it would NOT have increased the bet amount after that "visual-bug" loss, it would infact reset it's bet, and continue from the initial value, which it did not. As we can see here, this is the supposedly "visual bug", it accounted it as victory, but it never paid out, and further more, as we can see in the video on auto-betting, after 2 defeats, the bet amount was $0.04. And that right there, the 0.00x was the bet amount that I am hovering, which is 0.067 Doge. Let's do a little bit of math so you catch up yeah? 1st Bet Amount: 0.06700001 ($0.0050) On loss its x(BetAmount)*2.85(185%) where x is the previous bet amount. 2nd Bet: 0.06700001 * 2.85 = 0.1909500285 ($0.014) Now for the third and final bet amount that is shown on the video, which would be 0.1909500285 * 2.85 = 0.544207581225 ($0.040) IF the case that it was a visual bug (which it isn't), then the bet amount would've been $0.014. Because it would RESET after winning on the "visual-bug", thus going back to the initial bet (1st bet amount), losing once, and then being $0.014. However, since this was not the case, and the server still thought I lost (which I did, since I was monitoring it, it never gave back the money), thus increasing the bet, which is why it isn't a "VISUAL BUG". Visual bugs does not pull variables unless it's an old fashion pixel-bot scripted with AutoIT and what-not. These codes grab values and variables that are pre-determined and written, and executes the corresponding code to that, a visual bug would not cause the code to malfunction.
Mae1 Posted June 27, 2022 #18 Posted June 27, 2022 It's better if u bet low atleast safe and never been scam for me 😂😂 it last for days ur deposit if u play smarter @vrecluse it will only be skeeemm if u change ur bet higher
dupeddonk Posted June 27, 2022 #20 Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, vrecluse said: This post was made solely for the reason to make everyone aware of what's happening Could you please post a screen shot of you transaction history.
kayttobr Posted June 27, 2022 #21 Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, dupeddonk said: Could you please post a screen shot of you transaction history. xd u are either stupid or just trying to be a troll which is it man? the guy show u videos and screenshots and u ask for more, you are sick
AlvinFahriza Posted June 27, 2022 #22 Posted June 27, 2022 I've played Slide, it is indeed sometimes I got that same visual bug which is showed 0.00x. How ever, I got same experience when a winning balance didn't show up after 0.00x visual bugs on Slide but then I refresh it's already there. I somehow think this visual bugs is connected to our balance, so if I'm not mistaken your autobets didn't see your winning balance at first then it's continue to multiple 2.85x. I don't know if you can remember your last balance while playing auto bets with 0.069 Doge base bet. I know my balance while playing Slide because it was on manual, but on auto-bet it's hard to know our balance been added or not with those visual bugs.
AleksandarZ Posted June 27, 2022 #23 Posted June 27, 2022 @vrecluse Hi there Can you specify the bet ID for that bet or at least the exact time when the bet occurred?
tufetas Posted June 27, 2022 #24 Posted June 27, 2022 Dunno what to think about this topic, is only a bug or skem 🤔
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