Be careful, there's 0 fairness.

[vrecluse]

Hi, this will be my final post here on the forums as I'll make my final point about the current state of Stake and their games.

Keep in mind I am not posting this because I'm "whining" or "crying", I am simply making this post to make everyone aware of what is being transpired and wish you all good luck in your future bets if you wish to do so, I for one, advice you against it, but where you guys want to spend your money is up to you.

 

I won't make a long post with huge explanations etc, I'll just show you pictures instead, the strategy I was running was an own-made one;

with: 120% incremental initial bet value on loss, on a 50.50 rollover (dice) - 49.5% win-chance. It's a simple strategy, nothing fancy, none of my complicated ones, no rollovers, nothing, simply straight forward.

*Keep in mind I changed my seed before I started the strategy, so started betting "fresh".* 

PS: For those that wishes to verify the bets, feel free, I already did, waste of time.

Quote

 

Client: BSLLd9QYQf

Server: 4e3941410ed9e09d8c2cb51d180c9bce71dfeebf468c7a41d9eccf9f42216d6c

Nonce: 2802 to 2823

 

 

Here's the result:

 

 

 

 

That's a total of 22 bets if you do not want to count, 21 losses, and the final was a win.

Before you come here typing "bad luck.. better luck next time! keep "printing" and all your bullshit comments, I'll be as nice as possible and say: fuck off.

There's no luck involved in this, but I won't go into too much details as I previously stated. Just a simple math, the probability of losing 21 times in a row on a 50.50 rollover, (49.50% chance) is: 0.000059%, and that is in rational form: 59/100000000, whereas winning the lottery ticket with 6 correct numbers out of 49 is 1/13983816, equal to 0.0000071%. So in contrast its about 1/8th of a chance of winning a lottery ticket, instead of 1 to 13.98mill.

That aside, what I'm trying to show here is, I've lost 21 times in a row, after a mere 2800 bets, which in reality should happen after the written odds above, moreover, what's even funnier is that, as soon as I changed my bet to 0, on the 22nd roll, I ended up winning, I know for fact, that if I didn't change my bet, I still would've lost, but I changed my bet to 0 to not continue chasing my losses and on top of that to see the result.

If you wonder how much I spent it was $646.64 in total of all the 21 losses.

If I were to continue my strategy to regain back all the losses + some profit, the next bet would need to be: $775.97, making my total bet amount of: $1422.61

Which I self-realized it wasn't worth it, as after 21 losses in a row, I quickly realized this whole crap isn't based on math at all, and it's just some rigged shit to make you lose eventually.

Those will be my final bets on Stake, I wish you all good luck in your bets, and I advice you to be aware, if you see it's draining you, just stop, find another casino.

[kayttobr]

dont even waste ur time verifying the bets its pointless + waste of time.

whatever seed you change to doesnt matter either. all it does is just print the server seed on top of the client seed and make them identical, we have 0 proof if the client seed is actually unaltered in anyway. we just know that we can verify a bet using client seed and server hash. that server hash just copies all the values and pastes it on top of the client seed, so your client seed will always show same result as server hash, that way it will not look like a "scam". if this website shows how the verification process works and how they reveal the values u all will see thats how they do it. they think its so smart and cant be caught, heres ur client seed verify it urself!!, when the client seed they set is actually just an empty sheet of paper, that gets all the values imprinted into it when u change ur seed, and all ready for ur verification

[jungl3]

There really is something magical about the variance of stake house games. Stake must have the highest concentration of 'unlucky' players in the world.

Thanks for your post ✊

 

[schrodez]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[malahaygg]

yikes dude

[DeshaunWatson]

Yes I’ve told them I refuse to deposit here. The last 2 sessions I played both less than 2000 bets I had probability of 1/625000

and previous session I had a 1/470000
 

those two consecutive events I don’t even want to fucking know the probability 

[GotSeven]

If you use martin gale stake will rip you well and quick. I see this very often on my side. 

This is exactly how im ripped all the time by stake. Blackjack or dice both is the same. 

 

I asked support for my bj and dice rtp  details but they did not provide me. They would not show me, Since the stats are so fucked up.

[kayttobr]

1 hour ago, GotSeven said:

If you use martin gale stake will rip you well and quick. I see this very often on my side. 

This is exactly how im ripped all the time by stake. Blackjack or dice both is the same. 

 

I asked support for my bj and dice rtp  details but they did not provide me. They would not show me, Since the stats are so fucked up.

you did read what the op said right? he said

 

7 hours ago, vrecluse said:

 I'll just show you pictures instead, the strategy I was running was an own-made one;

it is not martingale strategy.

but yeah whole website is performing shit.

 

 

[pky4zack]

no

[dupeddonk]

11 hours ago, kayttobr said:

we have 0 proof if the client seed is actually unaltered in anyway

Uhhh, yeah you do.  You choose it, then when it's over you use it to verify the bet.  If it were altered, it wouldn't verify.

If you meant server seed, then you also have proof.  They give you the hash of the server seed before you choose the client seed.  When the bets complete, you verify the hash of the revealed server seed matches what was shown.

 

In regards to OP: losing 22 in a row isn't proof it's rigged.  If it were, then martingale would be a profitable strategy - but it's not. It may take a couple million bets or more, but if you keep playing, eventually you'll get burned.  If you are gambling because you think you figured out some betting system to beat the house, you're doing it wrong.  Gamble for fun and then you won't cry when you lose.

 

[thefaketoshi]

i mean why do people keep playing stake originals ? there is people complaining about the 'fairness' every single day ! 

just go to live games and enjoy . if u try to wager for VIP . don't . 

 

[Zulu189]

Some dude won last roulette VIP forum challenge with hitting 24 reds in a row... that's even more unlikely than 24 wins at 2x on dice.

The problem with martingale is that when you hit a big winning streak, you don't really care or notice because it doesn't positively affect your end goal. But when you hit a crazy losing streak (which will happen eventually), it feels like you got ''super unlucky".

[trecero1]

I'm tired of them rigging it based on bet size. Why can't I play at the size I want?

Im not sure exactly how it works realized two very suspicious things first is that when you increase your bet on Keno you might hit on the first one but everyone after that is rip.

Also you can pretty much tell when it's rigging nothing really happens out of nowhere you're either juicing or you can't win anything to save your life. 

Also those odds you shared are just insane and puts in perspective that there's no doubt they're lying to us.

I feel like stake used to be seed based and somewhere along the way they changed it for whatever reason.

Stake used to be so fun. 

[kayttobr]

12 hours ago, trecero1 said:

I'm tired of them rigging it based on bet size. Why can't I play at the size I want?

Im not sure exactly how it works realized two very suspicious things first is that when you increase your bet on Keno you might hit on the first one but everyone after that is rip.

Also you can pretty much tell when it's rigging nothing really happens out of nowhere you're either juicing or you can't win anything to save your life. 

Also those odds you shared are just insane and puts in perspective that there's no doubt they're lying to us.

I feel like stake used to be seed based and somewhere along the way they changed it for whatever reason.

Stake used to be so fun. 

used to be yes, dont worry

"If you push a dog to a corner, he will eventually turn around and bite"

"If you move too fast, you will eventually trip"

what i'm trying to say is, stake will have their time, to realize their mistakes, and when they do, it will be too late. they're getting away with a lot of shady crap, but it wont last long, more and more people are talking, more threads online are popping up, more youtube videos with tons of shady stuff, eventually it will ruin their "ironclad" reputation that they self portrait with fake reviews and fake accounts and what not