Demo play counting towards seed?

[bandito2800]

I noticed that when I play some of the originals in demo mode that the Nonce for my seed changes. So I guess even though it’s demo play with no money it affects my seed ? This is strange. There should be a separate seed for demo play. 

[jungl3]

Why should there be a separate seed? What difference does it make?

[bandito2800]

if you want to demo a game or play for fun and not affect your real money seed. Its quite obvious why you wouldnt want that. If your owed a bonus etc

[realtoothless]

On 7/31/2022 at 7:54 PM, jungl3 said:

Why should there be a separate seed? What difference does it make?

Because demo play should not affect real money bets. If they are using your real money seeds and advancing them through demo play that is straight up scam. Now - the question is, is there actually a demo mode for originals or just a 0.00$ bet that 'simulates' a demo mode.

[HeyCat]

there is no demo mode for original inhouse games. $0 bet of course count towards the seed, that's the whole premise of provably fair, casino know the outcome but they can't control how you bet, you can skip all the losers with $0 bet and only bet on winners too if your a savant.

[jungl3]

5 hours ago, realtoothless said:

Because demo play should not affect real money bets. If they are using your real money seeds and advancing them through demo play that is straight up scam. Now - the question is, is there actually a demo mode for originals or just a 0.00$ bet that 'simulates' a demo mode.

We have the choice if we make the $0 bets to advance the nonce, though. A lot of people like to do pre-rolls or incorporate $0 bets into their strategies. Just open stake in an incognito window or another browser and don't log in.

I'm deeply mistrustful of stake, but don't get how this is an issue. If they manipulate bet outcomes somehow, we're fucked either way.