RTP and Seed

[Nomsa]

Interested to find out from the community as its impossible to find the answer online from the providers as well as casinos. Talking about 3rd p[arty slots , pragmatic hacksaw ect not originals. 

Do you believe all our bets are shared in a pot and we receive the RTP from that pot ?

Example: 5 of us are the only ones playing in a pot(Unlikely as its millions of players), player one wins a max win ,do you think this makes our rtp smaller for everyone else to make up for the big win as its got to come from somewhere. 

Or do you have your own Pot(Seed) and you the only one that spins on that pot ? 

Seed- Probably the most controversial in my opinion and an easy way for the casinos to circumnavigate, do you believe if you stay on one seed its never altered or changed? 

Ah, and bonus buys...

Do we all pick a random bonus buy from 1 pot(everyone sahres) or do you have you personal random Pot thats only belongs to you?

[phd136]

I believe that nothing has influence.

Each bet is separated from all the other bets.

[dollartree1]

I just posted about this on a different topic a few hours ago about how their is literally no documentation about how providers RNG works.   It's widely assumed it's seed based, but when u ask those people for documentation stating that, you'll probably end up with something along the lines of, "train said so and he knows what hes talking about" or insults about your intelligence. 

 I would like to beleive its a time based RNG system based on when you click spin, the time or some type of other quazi random number is used to a couple decimals and that is what's used to determine results.  And that each time you click, there is no memory or influence on the next bet.  No shared pot, no seed that got generated when u first played where all results are already determined and you are just revealing them.  Because you would have no influence on whether they gave you a shitty seed or not.  Where as provably fair gives us the client seed to influence what is ultimately used to provide results. 

Unfortunatly we don't know though.  Anyone that says they do can't provide any type of documentation.  And I think providers want to keep it that way.   There's a lot of money flying around, and a lot of shady people that want it.  With little risk of punishment for breakjng the rules in this industry, i dont think its long before we see more providers joining Yggrassil in the book of shame. Who were quietly removed from sites due to fraud, and the whole thing is being swept under the rug to not taint the whole industry. 

I'm actually surprised Eddie said anything about because hes legit the only source that has said anything about it.  But no one seems to care and casinos don't want headlines stating they hosted fraudulent providers for years.   So yggrassil will keep all ill-gotten gains, and execs will live out a nice life, and will be a blueprint for how to get rich quick stealing money without consequence. 

[Nomsa]

Cant reply in length now, but in short if there is no documentation its open to do whatever they want when they want.

Last 3 hours this has been going on, willing to bet its not a ordinary gambler but paid to play or something more nefarious. What are these bets and Million dollar wins doing to our RTP.

Every 10 seconds blasting 15k, you cant tell me that does not affect our chances of winning

Always Hidden profile also. 

 

 

 

@phd136Impossible, its all got to balance out or they risk going bankrupt. Someone's million dollar win needs to be taken from other players somewhere sometime. 

And if it can be balanced it means it can also be balanced in the provider and casino favour for as much as they really want.

[phd136]

I believe the slots are coded that way.

They don't balance it out depending on what happened before.

If there is a 95% RTP, they just make sure that the probabilities to hit give them the 5% edge.

[kalululu]

difficult I have to believe this