dquest0511 Posted September 26, 2022 #1 Posted September 26, 2022 Here is the weekly giveaway tickets that corresponds with the daily (24 hour) reload amount I received. I claim always in USDT and wager in USDT. How is this possible ? The calculation is completely absurd and not comprehendible. If it is 7 days or 14 days previous it all doesn't make any sense. Anyone have a legit sense on how this is calculated ? Really baffled. Support / VIP host auto response will always be "It is correct". I am just trying to have an understanding, I know Stake will never do anything to correct this or explain in details the calculation.
Kobee11 Posted September 26, 2022 #2 Posted September 26, 2022 I dont know the sytem, i am platinum 5 and it weird for me too
Shanaya24 Posted September 26, 2022 #3 Posted September 26, 2022 you should put your weekly wins/or losses next to it there is a formula for calculatng the weekly for so next time whenever you receive your new daily reload ask the statistics by email and add the profit or loss to your spreadsheet, for sure after a few weeks you figure it out
dquest0511 Posted September 26, 2022 Author #4 Posted September 26, 2022 I have never profit any of those weeks just FYI. 0 negative. Only have deposited. If I had profit i would not be questioning this. Host says "Reload amounts are based on your stats in the previous 7 days prior to its reactivation (the raffle is on Saturday, and your session renewal is on Monday, so there is a two-day difference between those stats), wagered, profit/loss, how much you have wagered benefits gained from Stake vs. clean deposits and a few more factors that are defined by the system, so, as you can see, the calculation is way more complex than you can possibly imagine." - It is correct on their end as usual.
Tokai2021 Posted September 26, 2022 #5 Posted September 26, 2022 So if you look at different stats at different times. Then you will never know. My advise will be. Talk too them as sweet as you can be. It will likely profit you a couple dollars.
Moderator Soooze Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator #7 Posted September 26, 2022 its all based on wager profit loss now they changed it as weekley monthly changed
dupeddonk Posted September 26, 2022 #9 Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, dquest0511 said: I have never profit any of those weeks just FYI. 0 negative. Only have deposited. If I had profit i would not be questioning this. Host says "Reload amounts are based on your stats in the previous 7 days prior to its reactivation (the raffle is on Saturday, and your session renewal is on Monday, so there is a two-day difference between those stats), wagered, profit/loss, how much you have wagered benefits gained from Stake vs. clean deposits and a few more factors that are defined by the system, so, as you can see, the calculation is way more complex than you can possibly imagine." - It is correct on their end as usual. What he's saying is you can't only look at the stats you posted in this thread. There's other factors. Like how much you lost. Other bonuses you claimed. What games you played (basically what your expected loss is). For example: You could wager 100k one week and lose $200, then the next week wager $10k and lose $5k. Your reloads will be bigger the the second week, even though you wagered 10 times as much the week before. So it doesn't make sense to just post how many tickets you got and your reload amount. It's not enough information.
rudransh25 Posted September 26, 2022 #10 Posted September 26, 2022 Spammer don't know how is calculated reload
BGjack1 Posted September 26, 2022 #12 Posted September 26, 2022 In every stake skem mentioned there is 1 @dupeddonk to defend it yes
dquest0511 Posted September 26, 2022 Author #13 Posted September 26, 2022 @dupeddonk I have never profit in any of those week first off. second your reference of deposit amount correlated with wagered amount is incorrect because using the example you have presented. my "100K wagered week" has more deposit amount than my "10k wagered week". So this theory of yours is incorrect. I am not posting how much I have deposited in those weeks but I have reviewed it since you have brought it as the reason why. You can relax with the constant responding in all the forums discussion (bored much?). I have cross referenced all my data points to ensure it is consistent. Even my betting types within casino and sportsbook. Have no benefited from any other bonuses. Only Rakeback + weekly + monthly. Standard benefits. I can read and comprehend what my Host has said to me. I don't need a vague translator as yourself.
Hamil14 Posted September 26, 2022 #14 Posted September 26, 2022 Stake never failed to surprise us hahaha
ByteMeTwice Posted September 26, 2022 #15 Posted September 26, 2022 3 hours ago, dquest0511 said: @dupeddonk I have never profit in any of those week first off. second your reference of deposit amount correlated with wagered amount is incorrect because using the example you have presented. my "100K wagered week" has more deposit amount than my "10k wagered week". So this theory of yours is incorrect. I am not posting how much I have deposited in those weeks but I have reviewed it since you have brought it as the reason why. You can relax with the constant responding in all the forums discussion (bored much?). I have cross referenced all my data points to ensure it is consistent. Even my betting types within casino and sportsbook. Have no benefited from any other bonuses. Only Rakeback + weekly + monthly. Standard benefits. I can read and comprehend what my Host has said to me. I don't need a vague translator as yourself. Ignore that dude. He is Stake's mouthpiece, here to deflect anything nuetral or negative. I can't read his reply to you as i have him on my ignore list. He tries to come across as the encyclopedia of everything and anything. In reality, he's more like one of those A,B,C books you get on your first day at school. Seriously though, I hope you get some sort of sensible answer.. You're only asking what most peeps are afraid to.. Good Luck
dupeddonk Posted September 26, 2022 #16 Posted September 26, 2022 3 hours ago, dquest0511 said: I have never profit in any of those week first off. second your reference of deposit amount correlated with wagered amount is incorrect because using the example you have presented. my "100K wagered week" has more deposit amount than my "10k wagered week". So this theory of yours is incorrect. I don't think your deposit amount really matters, other than to determine your win/loss. Pretty sure the main factors are total wagered, and how much you won or lost. That's why your host mentioned "clean" deposits. 8 minutes ago, ByteMeTwice said: Ignore that dude. He is Stake's mouthpiece, here to deflect anything nuetral or negative. I'm literally just sharing information on how I think reloads are calculated.
dquest0511 Posted September 27, 2022 Author #17 Posted September 27, 2022 @dupeddonk I quote " For example: You could wager 100k one week and lose $200, then the next week wager $10k and lose $5k. Your reloads will be bigger the the second week, even though you wagered 10 times as much the week before. " This is what you said. This is basically you stating that my deposits which turns into losses would have to be more. Or else how does a person lose 5K only and wagered 10K? If start point is the same for both 10K wagered and 100K wagered scenario ? I already stated I have never made profit in any of those weeks so it is all deposits. You clearly don't read properly and make sense.
dupeddonk Posted September 27, 2022 #18 Posted September 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, dquest0511 said: I already stated I have never made profit in any of those weeks so it is all deposits. I understand you didn't make any profit. But how much you actually lost plays a major factor in your reload. That's what I'm trying to explain. Your total wagered and total won/lost are the biggest factors. Your total deposit doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. You could've tipped some out, you could have some in your balance, in your vault, you could've withdrawn, some could be pending sports bets. It really doesn't matter how much you deposit, And I'm not talking specifically about you, or asking you to share your finances, just trying to help you not be confused. Mostly it matters how much you win or lose. And how much you wager.
dquest0511 Posted September 27, 2022 Author #19 Posted September 27, 2022 @dupeddonk Again you are an absolute troll. clearly can't understand what I wrote. I have only deposited. I have never withdrawn or transferred to any other location within stake. My balance would always go to 0 each week and in between deposits. Absolute 0 profit and 0 in balance. Do you understand ? Holy....
lordehbiontic Posted September 27, 2022 #20 Posted September 27, 2022 I think waging is important bu loss/profits made too
dupeddonk Posted September 27, 2022 #21 Posted September 27, 2022 9 hours ago, dquest0511 said: I have only deposited. I have never withdrawn or transferred to any other location within stake. My balance would always go to 0 each week and in between deposits. Absolute 0 profit and 0 in balance. Do you understand ? Holy.... Yes, I understand that you've only deposited without any withdraws. But how much you actually lost plays a major factor in your reload. That's what I'm trying to explain. Your total wagered and total won/lost (yes, I know you didn't win, only lost) are the biggest factors. You shouldn't just look at total wagered (or total weekly tickets) and expect that to directly correlate with your reload amount. Or you will be confused when it doesn't.
dquest0511 Posted September 27, 2022 Author #23 Posted September 27, 2022 @dupeddonk are you that thick headed ? "But how much you actually lost plays a major factor in your reload" You think my weeks with 220 tickets I deposited less than weeks I had 30 tickets ? When I already said I have never made any profit. Only Depo. In order for me to wager enough to have 220 tickets. I would need to have continued to depo to be able to wager. So My depo is much higher on 220 tickets compare to 30 tickets. Absolute idiot.... What else you going to say now? keep trolling......
dupeddonk Posted September 28, 2022 #24 Posted September 28, 2022 I don't mean any offense when I ignore your personal attacks against me, just so you know. 1 hour ago, dquest0511 said: In order for me to wager enough to have 220 tickets. I would need to have continued to depo to be able to wager. So My depo is much higher on 220 tickets compare to 30 tickets. Just because it's higher in this specific case though, doesn't mean it will always be like that. It's very common for players to wager their deposit many times over before losing it or cashing out. Your total wager is not directly correlated with your total deposit. Just like your win/loss isn't directly correlated with your total deposit. Remember, I only know what you've posted in this thread. We're talking generally about how reloads are calculated, not how your specific reload last week or whenever was calculated.
dollartree1 Posted September 28, 2022 #25 Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, dquest0511 said: You think my weeks with 220 tickets I deposited less than weeks I had 30 tickets ? When I already said I have never made any profit. Only Depo. It's very possible that's the case. I've deposited $100 before and wagered $50k with it. I've also deposited $500 some weeks and only wagered $20k. So my wager of 50k I only lost 100$. The next week I wagered 30k less, but lost 400$ more. So my reload might be bigger the second week even though I wagered a lot less. Smaller wager. Bigger loss. You don't need to withdraw to "win". Any time u win on any game its a "win" because you have more money in your account hence being able to wager more. Thats how we're able to wager a lot with a small amount. So yes, it's possible that the weeks u had 224 tickets, that you lost less than a week you had much less tickets. And I think you should read @dupeddonk replys a little closer and without the chip on your shoulder because he's explaining it very clearly but no one likes to actually read what he says because a hate parade starts.
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