What can stake staff & community do to battle passive begging in chat?

[denize192]

The title. 

What could both the community and staff do better to battle the passive begging, I feel like the passive tagging begging on stake has become way too big, who is at fault? Stake for not moderating it harder? Players for tipping people that are passive begging? Lets discuss it

[giovs777]

For me, it's easy to just ignore. But that's just me.

[denize192]

1 minute ago, giovs777 said:

For me, it's easy to just ignore. But that's just me.

Ignoring is a solution for you specifically, but I am wondering more for everyone what can everyone do to lower it.

I'd love @ubbey04input on this and @Faris

[giovs777]

Just now, denize192 said:

Ignoring is a solution for you specifically, but I am wondering more for everyone what can everyone do to lower it.

I'd love @ubbey04input on this and @Faris

I think if you are to prevent it, It will be just the Mods being VERY STRICT on this and handing out mutes left and right.

[denize192]

1 hour ago, Darrrzz said:

In English chatrooms?

Yeah I mean more the english chatrooms.

 

1 hour ago, giovs777 said:

I think if you are to prevent it, It will be just the Mods being VERY STRICT on this and handing out mutes left and right.

I dont know if that would be the right approach because, do we want to see people getting muted left and right? Is there nothing we players can do about it to self police the chat for example. Thats how i am thinking

[ByteMeTwice]

It will never stop,

Stake.com do not want it to stop.

Sometimes the Mods are even involved in Passive begging in Chat.

What I did was shut the chat box down, the begging doesn't annoy me anymore... 😊

[giovs777]

1 hour ago, denize192 said:

Yeah I mean more the english chatrooms.

 

I dont know if that would be the right approach because, do we want to see people getting muted left and right? Is there nothing we players can do about it to self police the chat for example. Thats how i am thinking

But is your proposal?

[Jicoin1st]

Mod begging wow lol

[denize192]

4 hours ago, ByteMeTwice said:

It will never stop,

Stake.com do not want it to stop.

Sometimes the Mods are even involved in Passive begging in Chat.

What I did was shut the chat box down, the begging doesn't annoy me anymore... 😊

Just like the other guy said, ignoring people that do it is a solution but its more a solution for yourself.

 

4 hours ago, giovs777 said:

But is your proposal?

The thing is I do agree with the proposal that mods maybe need to be more cuthroat and start to mute people, but I feel like is there anything the players can do to lower it?
 

[jungl3]

Remove rain and public tips. 3 month ban and reduced bonuses for anybody outright begging. 1 month ban for passive. Chat would be pretty dead after that, which probably wouldn't suit stake and how busy they want the site to look.

[denize192]

5 minutes ago, jungl3 said:

Remove rain and public tips. 3 month ban and reduced bonuses for anybody outright begging. 1 month ban for passive. Chat would be pretty dead after that, which probably wouldn't suit stake and how busy they want the site to look.

I think removing rain is wrong but removing public tips, that its always private is 100% one way to combat it. Reduced bonus for outright begging? I like that idea.

[dimspirit]

Why do you care about this so much? Let people do it and those who help them help them. 

(and no I do not beg) but I've found myself helping people sometimes. It doesn't matter the story, it's just if I'm in the mood or not.

Begging shouldn't be punishable in a space where people are losing their  livelihood. If you don't want to see begging then go to places where begging won't happen lol 

This is a gambling site remember!

[N8erade91]

It’s awful on the twitter page too, makes me not want to follow. Every post so many people leave their usernames lol

 

but it drives lots of engagement 

[denize192]

4 minutes ago, dimspirit said:

Why do you care about this so much? Let people do it and those who help them help them. 

(and no I do not beg) but I've found myself helping people sometimes. It doesn't matter the story, it's just if I'm in the mood or not.

Begging shouldn't be punishable in a space where people are losing their  livelihood. If you don't want to see begging then go to places where begging won't happen lol 

This is a gambling site remember!

Why I care? Personally because I feel like the chat quality gets lowered with people passive begging all the time. One guy tips his friend "omg nice flame" "do you remember me man" "cool tip bro" etc etc. Its just annoying whenever I am having convos with people. Helping people is fine, but why not help people irl,  your family, your friends? Donating to a children hospital etc. People on stake are degenerates (including me by the way) You could do much more help elsewhere. But I did not think about it in that way good insight dimspirit!

2 minutes ago, N8erade91 said:

It’s awful on the twitter page too, makes me not want to follow. Every post so many people leave their usernames lol

 

but it drives lots of engagement 

Username : denize192 

keep it green and thanks

But on a real note, I agree with you. The stake twitter is so fucking aids...

[XeroF]

Or just let it be free to beg how much you want. Lol like we are all grown ups and we can definitly decide who we want to tip.. I dont mind if 10 people tagging me when ever i post a big win. So dont see the problem at all  

[N8erade91]

@denize192 😂😂

[denize192]

Just now, XeroF said:

Or just let it be free to beg how much you want. Lol like we are all grown ups and we can definitly decide who we want to tip.. I dont mind if 10 people tagging me when ever i post a big win. So dont see the problem at all  

And thats also an issue with it. You personally are allowed to do whatever the fuck you want with your money. But I do appriciate your insight into it, its good to see other peoples perspectives  

[XeroF]

1 minute ago, denize192 said:

And thats also an issue with it. You personally are allowed to do whatever the fuck you want with your money. But I do appriciate your insight into it, its good to see other peoples perspectives  

I understand tho when its a diamond in chat and he/she gets tagged for 10 min straight even after he/she leaves  

[denize192]

6 minutes ago, XeroF said:

I understand tho when its a diamond in chat and he/she gets tagged for 10 min straight even after he/she leaves  

Lmao thats also an issue. I've seen people write like and this is a non vip "I've always been your number one cheering for you" like. The passive begging is becoming crazy these days haha  

[jungl3]

16 minutes ago, dimspirit said:

Begging shouldn't be punishable in a space where people are losing their  livelihood. If you don't want to see begging then go to places where begging won't happen lol 

I think this is counterintuitive. If you rip to $0, but there's some small hope that is kept alive because you can beg and have another chance, it just keeps the addiction fed. Add that to reloads, weekly, monthly, promos, hanging around for rain.. stake has a prime location rent-free in many people's heads. Everything they do reinforces addiction. When you're at the depths of it, you're constantly checking your phone, streams for drops, being active in chat just for rain, etc, etc.

[denize192]

36 minutes ago, jungl3 said:

I think this is counterintuitive. If you rip to $0, but there's some small hope that is kept alive because you can beg and have another chance, it just keeps the addiction fed. Add that to reloads, weekly, monthly, promos, hanging around for rain.. stake has a prime location rent-free in many people's heads. Everything they do reinforces addiction. When you're at the depths of it, you're constantly checking your phone, streams for drops, being active in chat just for rain, etc, etc.

That is so interesting, I have not thought about it that way. But at the same time, begging is not allowed and passive begging if frowned upon even by staff, sometimes staff even mutes people for tag spamming etc so do they really want begging? I dont know. But you have a point

[N8erade91]

That’s the thing is that it keeps people engaged and sticking around hoping for that chance to get a little bit of money to win back or make a big win. Stake wins at the end of the day from it all

[denize192]

Just now, N8erade91 said:

That’s the thing is that it keeps people engaged and sticking around hoping for that chance to get a little bit of money to win back or make a big win. Stake wins at the end of the day from it all

But if thats the case, why is begging against the rules? Like I agree with you that stake want the engagements, but does stake want engagements from people that cant afford to gamble? I dont know

[youcheckibet]

Short of making it stricter bans not much.

[ubbey04]

No one can stop or avoid passive or even aggressive begs in chat ..its a normal scene especially in english chat room nowadays. Its like "international begging hub" .Players and even some mods do so . The difference is.. staffs have power to eliminate or give punishment.  

Everyone of us is a "beggar" indirectly. Whether we accept it or not . If you are in chat and you felt annoyed about it ..better leave chatroom or just go back to your local channel. 

Sometimes ignoring isn't enough because the lists you will put on ignore is too much .

If you can't avoid chatting , maybe focus on your circles whom you can start "good conversations " regardless of chaotic atmosphere of chatroom. 

In fairness to some mods /staffs that I know . They truly exerting a lot of efforts to implements the rules with justifiable mute . Some tried to balance or understand the "thoughts " of the message . Giving the players "warning " or reminding there is chat rules to be followed .

Some players are also "maybe silly /teasy in nature " . Some are just go with the flow .. like seeing tags in chat even they don't even know the player ..they will be like "cheer leader"  or the anonymous bestie in chat.