arteemosh Posted March 20, 2018 #1 Posted March 20, 2018 I have been playing online casinos for few years now, (Gawd, time flies and money disappears.) What I have had people ask about the dangers of on-line casinos is "How do you know these casinos don't control your winnings and losses given they know everything about you including your IP address" vs Brick and Mortar Casinos who don't know you. ?
wry Posted March 20, 2018 #2 Posted March 20, 2018 The nice thing about provably fair is that you can be reasonably confident you are not being cheated by the casino, regardless of your IP address or bet amount. I would prefer to not have casinos know my IP address, one of the advantages of crypto is that it is reasonably private. Good Luck!
ieatkdubsass Posted March 20, 2018 #3 Posted March 20, 2018 I've noticed on certain Amantic casino sites that I can't win at a specific persons house if I gamble there. But if I go mobile and use my LTE or go home, I'll be able to win. Literally everyone that plays at my friends house cannot win there on his internet. We've played through like atleast 50 hours trying to win at his house hahaa.
Xylber Posted March 21, 2018 #4 Posted March 21, 2018 Yes, you can set different scripts for different IPs. As @wry said, if the casino is provably fair, everything is transparent and it is free of that dirty trick. You can play here (and any other "provably fair" casino) with a peace of mind.
ravenyvolle2 Posted March 21, 2018 #5 Posted March 21, 2018 If you are referring to stake or even primedice, these sites are provably fair so you dont have to worry because you can check your bets if they are real. As for the ip, i dont believe it is a factor of you losing or winning. This is gambling anyway, there is no long strategies or whatsoever, it is all about luck and control.:) Good luck!
Han2x Posted March 21, 2018 #6 Posted March 21, 2018 I'm very sure that PD and Stake are fair. No control of game result and stealing of deposits here. They give a lots of giveaways and they let faucet abusers win and withdraw. ahahaha. I love this sites.
skillex Posted March 21, 2018 #7 Posted March 21, 2018 So far playing online casinos, only Primedice and stake and other sites too are reliable in terms of provably fair betting. So Im care-free in playing anytime knowing that the site Im playing is not cheating me.
Administrator Edward Posted March 21, 2018 Administrator #8 Posted March 21, 2018 This is the exact reason provable fairness is such a great thing. Check out cryptogambling.org if you'd like to learn more. Stake is a verified operator under the CGF so you can hoepefully bet here with peace of mind.
arteemosh Posted March 21, 2018 Author #9 Posted March 21, 2018 thank you guys for all the clarification and thoughts on this. appreciate it!
Sweeet Posted March 21, 2018 #10 Posted March 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Kate said: I dont know about stake but i believe there was an online casino 3 years back which did that. They used two main methods to control the winnings : 1) IP Address 2) Your deposits If your IP was from US they would let you win big since Ads give high CPM for US residents and if a person deposited a lot of BTC they would allow him to win a lot more than usual. Sorry i am not getting the name of the casino now but i'll see whether i can find it. But i don't think stake has any of the above methods maybe winning are made randomly to random users. But there is one main thing i believe all casionos follow and that is HIgh Bet - Less percentage of winning. It means that if you bet for eg. 0.02 BTC your percentage of doubling that will be 5 percent where as if you would bet just 200 satoshis your winrate would be 95%. Wow I never knew such a thing existed, this obviously doesn't exist on Stake as you can confirm all of your rolls with your seeds.
Shaniqua Posted March 25, 2018 #11 Posted March 25, 2018 this can be a touchy topic for sure.... good convo goin g
SheldonCooper Posted March 25, 2018 #12 Posted March 25, 2018 well i look at it like this the longer i can see the site has been operating the safer i fell because i doubt a site would be able to run for years if there were any faul play involved
OsmaNN Posted April 3, 2019 #13 Posted April 3, 2019 I'm sure stake and primedice are fair I don't think you're going to have an event like this .
77kdub Posted April 3, 2019 #14 Posted April 3, 2019 I think as with anything you do online you need to be careful and understand the risks involved. I'm quite confident Stake is legit otherwise I wouldn't play here. I'm not sure what your IP address would have to do with in a casino's decision on whether they were to cheat some one or not but an interesting concept I suppose. I've noticed a lot of players are quick to claim "scam" if they have lost which I think is funny actually. you certainly wouldn't get away with throwing such a fit at a land based casino. back to the question though I guess one could experiment using a VPN & see if you notice a difference while using different IP's. Even then it's all just speculation, unless you are a dev for a site you will never know for sure.
barbaris Posted April 3, 2019 #15 Posted April 3, 2019 I think that there is nothing dangerous that the casino knows your ip address. If you do not want to show it then simply do not use the Internet, because all sites and resources know your address.
rajamishra Posted April 3, 2019 #16 Posted April 3, 2019 hello friends its true some casino track u r ip and deposit, and they play with u when u try to win and they absolute change probability.
Kate Posted April 3, 2019 #17 Posted April 3, 2019 If people have a serious problem of showing their IP address to the casino then there is no other way to go around the security even a VPN wouldn't work these days because trackers are very advanced these days that they can tell if you are using a VPN service IP address
bmg Posted April 4, 2019 #18 Posted April 4, 2019 i can not tell you how many times I have heard people say that it does. I on the other hand do not think that it does.
artizykristy Posted April 4, 2019 #19 Posted April 4, 2019 I think there are some casinos that use tricks like you call them, but that doesn't apply in the stake here, we can see provably fair
Babagucci Posted April 4, 2019 #20 Posted April 4, 2019 On 3/20/2018 at 11:38 AM, arteemosh said: I have been playing online casinos for few years now, (Gawd, time flies and money disappears.) What I have had people ask about the dangers of on-line casinos is "How do you know these casinos don't control your winnings and losses given they know everything about you including your IP address" vs Brick and Mortar Casinos who don't know you. ? It's not the IP address, it your individual account. Typically any casino account you have, on your end you see games like slots and table games. But on the casinos end all they see are numbers, like statistics, percentages, and positive & negative numbers. A good example would be (NGR) or Net Gaming revenue. NGR is the current profit the casino makes from each player. This number can be both positive and negative. When it's negative (-) the player has earned money off the casino. When it's positive(+) the casino has earned money off the player. So when the casino has a negative NGR the house edge goes up making it more difficult for the player to win. When your bet earnings is in the red then you start winning more. The casino wants to make money so when they see players that have earned more than they have spent they want that money back.
williamshennie9 Posted April 5, 2019 #21 Posted April 5, 2019 I'm sure some casinos do track your IP and rig bets accordingly. Stake is provably fair though, so you can verify all bets. This way if they did manipulate any bet, you would know if you verified the bet
renzu143 Posted April 5, 2019 #22 Posted April 5, 2019 Use VPN to hide your IP you can still play some gambling site even though you are using VPN but if you only play on stake you dont need VPN coz its provably fair and you can verify your bets
laron Posted April 5, 2019 #23 Posted April 5, 2019 On 3/21/2018 at 6:28 AM, wry said: The nice thing about provably fair is that you can be reasonably confident you are not being cheated by the casino, regardless of your IP address or bet amount. I would prefer to not have casinos know my IP address, one of the advantages of crypto is that it is reasonably private. Good Luck! I guess it's not a problem in IP Adres but on the Provable Fair itself, sites that are involved in gambling mostly use prob fair to check a bet not on the Adress IP I guess
AlvinFahriza Posted April 5, 2019 #24 Posted April 5, 2019 I've seen people that saying the best strategy is to come with new account and with new IP, so the system won't recognize you and your old strategy, but still I'm to lazy to do it so I don't really care about it.
Sefan Posted April 5, 2019 #25 Posted April 5, 2019 heck no why on earth would that efect it, i mean if you think it might just use a vpn lol, with the probility fair, there is no way that they could rigg with your ip
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