System is set up for failure. Claiming refund.

[Kargai]

16 minutes ago, oxywizard said:

nd kicked for spamming/sending legit promotion links to stake and primedice or no it’s because i defy everything you stand for from 1st day you met me and that got under your skin? Probably that but honestly I could care less of your opinion of me. I only care about How I treat you and how that effects me.Thanks buddy👍 Have a nice life and don’t go around saying Illuminati this and that. Even though these’re facts but that’s your view of the subject. Bye bye

You "could care less" but you are still explaining and defending yourself on every things people say. That's more hard to apply things than just saying them because they sound great, right ?  

That's just one more example that you like to ear you speaking/writing but you are not really contemplating what other says about you, you live in your bubble. How other people threat you is not your concern like you said, only the way you threat others right ? That's just someone who don't listen others and live in his bubble.

Illuminatis are facts ? Yea in your own bubble maybe. You don't even know if i believe in them or not. I only use them as example because the problems are always coming from elsewhere for you. I never stated my opinion on them. But again you took things how they suits you the best and make ... prejudice (now i believe you know the signification of the word) about me with it  

[wry]

I'm sorry you lost, really. 

At first I thought this was an April Fool's post, but after looking through the thread I realized you were serious.

People have been making posts and accusations like yours since the start of gambling.  If you want anyone to take you seriously you need to use the provably fair mechanism to show how the casino cheated you on one or more of your bets.  The one time I've seen a casino site brought down for cheating based on accusations like yours it was because the user did exactly that.  (The site had fixed it so that for large bets on every winning roll the site automatically rerolled, so you had to win twice to get paid.)  It does take some effort but if you can't follow the instructions at the site that @Katarina pointed you to I'm sure there would be many people on BitcoinTalk who would be happy to help you.  (I'm sure every Stake competitor would be delighted to help you show this site is rigged!)

Sadly, it is more likely that you just lost.  In a way you are correct, the site is set up to make players fail -  BY KEEPING THEM PLAYING.  Set a win target and when you hit it, then quit it.

Again, sorry you lost.

[Stake Staff]

The user in question, same one who is making accusations against the site he was used to hired to work for, also claimed giveaway prices from multiple accounts, until we noticed him abusing the system. 

So, I presume this is another way oxywizard is trying to abuse the system, by yelling "Wolf" when there is none. 

Verify your bets as you were instructed, change the seed, change the strategy you're using for playing, you would have never be here complaining if you got 20 wins in a row.

[oxywizard]

22 minutes ago, Kargai said:

You "could care less" but you are still explaining and defending yourself on every things people say. That's more hard to apply things than just saying them because they sound great, right ?  

That's just one more example that you like to ear you speaking/writing but you are not really contemplating what other says about you, you live in your bubble. How other people threat you is not your concern like you said, only the way you threat others right ? That's just someone who don't listen others and live in his bubble.

Illuminatis are facts ? Yea in your own bubble maybe. You don't even know if i believe in them or not. I only use them as example because the problems are always coming from elsewhere for you. I never stated my opinion on them. But again you took things how they suits you the best and make ... prejudice (now i believe you know the signification of the word) about me with it  

Ofcourse I’m going to defend myself. I’m not going to let you say these things without any answer ? But I actually don’t care more than that. Haha only thing I care about here is getting my money back, And that’s the whole point of this thread. 

I actually thought about what you said and still saying... mate around me in this so called bubble these threats are nothing since they’re incorrect. You never met me. You never talked to me in person EVER. You can’t simply to really take the words from players in a gambling site and actually contemplate them and be sad about them.  That’s what you maybe do but that’s not me. I’d rather have natural laws define who and what I am, rather than peoples blindly accusing me. Bubble this bubble that. This bubble I’m in Is awesome if its going to protect me from opinions that really count for 0 cents to my wallet or my moral righteousness and plus I don’t threat anyone or anything I’m more of a pacifist that believes Allah is the entity/authority with power to make threats. Therefore I don’t make none of my own. 

i don’t need to to know if you believe in the Illuminati either. Because if not. You should and actually try to escape the bubble that they put you in physically and mentally, And please don’t say I’m the one being prejudiced because I’ve not once offended you in any matter and if I did it  probably wasn’t meant as one but all I actually care about on this site is my money back and that’s my point 

22 minutes ago, wry said:

I'm sorry you lost, really. 

At first I thought this was an April Fool's post, but after looking through the thread I realized you were serious.

People have been making posts and accusations like yours since the start of gambling.  If you want anyone to take you seriously you need to use the provably fair mechanism to show how the casino cheated you on one or more of your bets.  The one time I've seen a casino site brought down for cheating based on accusations like yours it was because the user did exactly that.  (The site had fixed it so that for large bets on every winning roll the site automatically rerolled, so you had to win twice to get paid.)  It does take some effort but if you can't follow the instructions at the site that @Katarina pointed you to I'm sure there would be many people on BitcoinTalk who would be happy to help you.  (I'm sure every Stake competitor would be delighted to help you show this site is rigged!)

Sadly, it is more likely that you just lost.  In a way you are correct, the site is set up to make players fail -  BY KEEPING THEM PLAYING.  Set a win target and when you hit it, then quit it.

Again, sorry you lost.

Thanks for your awesome reply dude and I sure did do that, but nothing came back.I don’t want to discredit anybody I just want my money back and that’s it 

❤️❤️

3 minutes ago, Bojana said:

The user in question, same one who is making accusations against the site he was used to hired to work for, also claimed giveaway prices from multiple accounts, until we noticed him abusing the system. 

So, I presume this is another way oxywizard is trying to abuse the system, by yelling "Wolf" when there is none. 

Verify your bets as you were instructed, change the seed, change the strategy you're using for playing, you would have never be here complaining if you got 20 wins in a row.

Oh but there really is a wolf, and I had no idea that wasn’t allowed and if you caught on to it. You could’ve simply said oh hey give us our money back but nope you didn’t therefore That happened and I took the points and that was it. Shouldn’t be a problem. Verify bets from system that that bambozled me to just have it rubbing My face and show me that it took it 

[Katarina]

You will not be refunded since the money was lost on betting.

Everything has been explained to you, in so many details and so many times!

If you still have some questions, feel free to contact on Live Support.

I'm locking the topic now.

 

Have a lovely day! 

[maverick528]

This is going to be a long answer, but I feel several things need to be clear.

First, no investment on earth is 100% safe. That does not exist. Even Apple, the big corporation that is winning a lot of money today, at one point make a product (the Apple 3) that was crap, and almost went bankrupt, and they kicked in the ass Steve Jobs (one of the founders of the company) out of the window.

No matter if u invest in gold, oil prices, BTC or you open a hotdog food truck, there always is the possibility of busting your money.

Second, this is NOT an investment site where you depo and you are guaranteed to make a profit. If all ppl that depoed here made a profit, then this will be a charity institution.

And it really is a Casino. If you read the Wikipedia page about roulette for example, you will find some very interesting math explanations, and also this very important two pieces of knowledge= "The American mathematician Patrick Billingsley said that no betting system can convert a subfair game into a profitable enterprise." and "All betting systems that rely on patterns, when employed on casino edge games will result, on average, in the player losing money".

Third, very few people really understand what provably fair means. Provably fair means that the number that will be used is actually calculated before you place your bet, and it CAN NOT be changed later, it does not matter what amount you bet or what you do, the casino can not change the result of the roll. And for verifying this there are math properties that are used, like the SHA standard, that were NOT developed by Stake. If you dont trust the verifiers available here, you are free to develop one of your own, or to pay a programmer you trust to develop one.

Fourth, if you feel people are treating you "like shit", maybe you should ask yourself how are you treating other persons. It doesnt work 100% of the time, but treating other ppl in a good way is a good starting point to be treated in a nice way. And also, if you act like a jerk, almost 100% you will be treated as one.