giovs777 Posted July 6, 2023 #1 Posted July 6, 2023 I am starting this thread since obviously, @NikolaRa doesn't know what he is talking about. He has locked the thread to avoid replies to his baseless decision: Despite the numerous replies from the community saying that you can play the slot "Beast Below" below 10cUSD, he still insists that: "it is important to note that the game was designed to have a minimum bet requirement of 10 cents. This means that users cannot play with an amount lower than this threshold." I can easily disprove such an erroneous statement with the following screenshots below: A.1. Bet Placed in 5PHP: A.2. Same 5PHP bet (check bet ID) but changed my wallet settings so it could be viewed in USD: IT IS CLEARLY below .10c USD B.1. Bet placed in .10CAD: B.2. Same .10CAD bet (check bet ID) but changed my wallet settings so it could be viewed in USD: Again, IT IS CLEARLY below .10c USD For confirmation with respect to the results, all he has to do is to retrieve the bet ID of the winner. He will be able to check there from the bet ID that the alleged winning bet is only PHP5 and when converted to USD is only approximately .09 USD (from the visuals). He can even check the Hacksaw Replay. He even says that: "Consequently, the users in first and second place had the same bet amounts as you, as they were also adhering to the minimum bet requirement just in different currency." Again, this shows that he has not investigated properly. My bet was .20cUSD, Edetan's bet was 5PHP (.09cUSD per visual) and the 2nd placer's bet was .10CAD (.07cUSD per visual). So how can he say that we had the "same bet amounts"? I am sorry to say this but, respectfully, @NikolaRa doesn't know what he is talking about. He clearly did not investigate properly. If he will be the one to evaluate the promo winners here on Stake, I have reason to believe that there may be errors in the evaluation of the promo winners. Still hoping that @AleksandarZ would take a look at my issue as he has not visited the forum as of posting last week. I am ending this post with the highest places as of the end of the promo for context purposes, which I clearly won, if the rules are followed:
Fernando16 Posted July 6, 2023 #2 Posted July 6, 2023 Yea @NikolaRa you are just blatantly wrong here, and i know its not out of being malicious, i just think you don't know about the loopholes to play slots below 10c usd equivalent -- given I didnt know this until 2 years and 50 mill of wager into stake, its something only cheap people know lol. Slots can be played below the 10c USD minimum which is YOUR requirement for YOUR challenge. the reason you do this is so people cant farm 10x the volume with a coin that, for example, 10c = 1c usd of. Take 2 minutes out of your day, which i know is very busy, actually read everything posted, and issue the correct $ amount. It's insane watching this play out, and locking the previous thread is a very very bad look. Like there is nothing up for discussion, the promo was paid out to the wrong person -- this happens on the stream all the time aswell when they call out the wrong raffle numbers then the one shown on the generator -- the solution is to pay both people, not penalize the legitimate winner. You guys are an online casino doing daily 10k telegram drops i think you can skip a day and pay out giovs his RIGHTFUL money from a challenge YOU advertised and it wont break the bank.
Community Manager NikolaRa Posted July 6, 2023 Community Manager #3 Posted July 6, 2023 I really understand your frustration but, please try to understand that we cannot limit players in which coin they want to play. If the game provider considers it as an equal amount, that is up to them and not up to us. The casino has no control over the currency conversion rate. Once again, the conversion process and the resulting value are determined solely by the game provider, and this is not the responsibility of the casino.
Fernando16 Posted July 6, 2023 #4 Posted July 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, NikolaRa said: I really understand your frustration but, please try to understand that we cannot limit players in which coin they want to play. If the game provider considers it as an equal amount, that is up to them and not up to us. The casino has no control over the currency conversion rate. Once again, the conversion process and the resulting value are determined solely by the game provider, and this is not the responsibility of the casino. The promotion has a minimum bet requirement of 10cent USD set by YOU the winning player's bet was 8.9 cents USD. how is this so complicated? If edestan wanted to be eligible for the promotion by the terms set by YOU, he would have needed to wagered 5.5php which is equivalent to 10c USD. He wagered 5php, 10% less than the minimum threshold.
giovs777 Posted July 6, 2023 Author #5 Posted July 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, NikolaRa said: I really understand your frustration but, please try to understand that we cannot limit players in which coin they want to play. If the game provider considers it as an equal amount, that is up to them and not up to us. The casino has no control over the currency conversion rate. Once again, the conversion process and the resulting value are determined solely by the game provider, and this is not the responsibility of the casino. @NikolaRa you clearly don’t understand the issue and how you can avoid the minimum 10cUSD bet on Hacksaw slots. If you can’t bet below 10cusd regardless of currency then why did @AleksandarZ say this and corrected himself on a similar issue: Please review said post so that you can be guided. Have you asked your other colleagues about this issue? Did you ask @AleksandarZon his opinion on this issue? Please bring this issue to his attention and I am 100% sure you will be clarified regarding your misunderstanding about Hacksaw Slots and the 10c min bet.
giovs777 Posted July 10, 2023 Author #8 Posted July 10, 2023 Still no. @NikolaRa insisting that you can’t bet below 10c on a hacksaw. Still waiting for @AleksandarZto reply. Hopefully, it will be resolved fairly soon.
soxbopp Posted July 10, 2023 #9 Posted July 10, 2023 @NikolaRaAre you crazy??? So, we now can bet below 0.1 to pass challenges just because providers say 0.07=0.1? It was a Stake promotion NOT a provider promotion! That also leave questions for me. Are SVE, Levelup, Multiplier Race also calculated in the same way? If so, that means everyone played 10c or above has been rewarded less because people w/ 7c-9c bet also splited the cake. Yes people may used a crypto that was 10c at the time they place the bet but devalued to 7c on bonus day, but you can clearly see that the top1 was using USDT. 0.089 USDT can only round-up to 0.09 not 0.1!
giovs777 Posted July 10, 2023 Author #10 Posted July 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, soxbopp said: @NikolaRaAre you crazy??? So, we now can bet below 0.1 to pass challenges just because providers say 0.07=0.1? It was a Stake promotion NOT a provider promotion! That also leave questions for me. Are SVE, Levelup, Multiplier Race also calculated in the same way? If so, that means everyone played 10c or above has been rewarded less because people w/ 7c-9c bet also splited the cake. Yes people may used a crypto that was 10c at the time they place the bet but devalued to 7c on bonus day, but you can clearly see that the top1 was using USDT. 0.089 USDT can only round-up to 0.09 not 0.1! Exactly, bro. Now you can even bet .50 TRL which is about .02-03.c usd. If you are joining these slot promos you have to be vigilant. Obviously, since @NikolaRatook over there are doubts to the accuracy of the results.
Fimo Posted July 10, 2023 #11 Posted July 10, 2023 I will wait for aleksandar feedback before going any further! May he resolve this because it indeeds raises many concerns and creates strong precedents on the future of promos.
SPN Posted July 10, 2023 #12 Posted July 10, 2023 This is actually crazy.@NikolaRayou have to understand that this will make people do below 10c bet on every challenge now and if they don't get paid out they will just link to what you have said as proof to get their winnings... Pay @giovs777the 1st prize and set a strict rule that it always have to be minimum 10c USD bet (as it already says it is) The players that decided to bet in PHP could have chosen another currency that makes it a 10 cent bet.
giovs777 Posted July 10, 2023 Author #13 Posted July 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, SPN said: This is actually crazy.@NikolaRayou have to understand that this will make people do below 10c bet on every challenge now and if they don't get paid out they will just link to what you have said as proof to get their winnings... Pay @giovs777the 1st prize and set a strict rule that it always have to be minimum 10c USD bet (as it already says it is) The players that decided to bet in PHP could have chosen another currency that makes it a 10 cent bet. This is on point sir. I’ll just bet .50 TRL on a hacksaw and invoke his “you can’t bet below 10c on a hacksaw” so pay me. I have no control over the exchange rate used by the provider. 🤡
dawid-m Posted July 11, 2023 #15 Posted July 11, 2023 Not solved???? That's why I'm not participating in such "Promotions".... You never know if you have won...
giovs777 Posted July 14, 2023 Author #17 Posted July 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Fimo said: any updates? Still waiting for @AleksandarZ
giovs777 Posted July 14, 2023 Author #18 Posted July 14, 2023 5 hours ago, youcheckibet said: Don't expect much, he is an idiot and clearly stubborn. who are you referring to? lol
ulululu Posted July 14, 2023 #19 Posted July 14, 2023 @NikolaRa Not trying to be toxic, but at least consider beeing wrong this time. The evidence is clear, if you still can't wrap your head around this please consult @AleksandarZ. Either change the rules of having a minimum bet or respect the rules you have set for the challenge.
giovs777 Posted July 17, 2023 Author #20 Posted July 17, 2023 Finally, I got paid today. Thank you so much @Nenad. Thank so much to all who commented on my posts. Appreciate the community in helping me bring the issue to the concerned persons. In the end, stake rectified its mistake, apologized and was so generous to add a little extra for the delay in paying the prize. Thanks again!
Fimo Posted July 17, 2023 #22 Posted July 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, giovs777 said: Finally, I got paid today. Thank you so much @Nenad. Thank so much to all who commented on my posts. Appreciate the community in helping me bring the issue to the concerned persons. In the end, stake rectified its mistake, apologized and was so generous to add a little extra for the delay in paying the prize. Thanks again! This is wonderful news, glad you got this resolved. We put money up front and risk a lot when we play these promotions and we expect to be rewarded fairly for our efforts! Good luck on your future endeavors @giovs777 ps. i appreciate your generosity you are the g.o.a.t.😎
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