SVE Stake vs. Eddie || Scamming all participants

[bbua97]

Hey guys. 

I'm usually not that guy but something like this gets me reeeeeally angry and I hope you support my opinion. 

The original published requirements for the last week's SVE promotion was to hit a target multiplier of 638.25x with a minimum bet of 20c USD.

So I started hunting and it took a lot of money to hit this on a 0.2$ bet. Now the SVE is finished and I read in my chatroom that the minimum bet was reduced from 20c USD to 10c USD. 
Of course a lot of players started hunting this first after they reduced it. 

So let's do a simple calculation:

30.000$ will get split between all qualifying players and "winning bet ID =  hit the target multiplier".

1. 10 player with a winning bet id and bet amount of 20 cent.
   • 30.000 / 10 = 3000$ per winner (how it should be calculated)
2. 10 players with winning bet id and bet amount of 20 cent PLUS 10 players with a winning bet id and bet amount of 10 cent.
   • 30.000 / 20 = 1500$ per winner (how it is calculated)

I guess it's quite obvious that this is not fair between players who hunted with the original requirements and the players who started to hunted with the changed requirements.
Every single winner decreases the split amount per player drastically. It seems like stake doesn't want to give their players a chance to win high in their promotions.

Solution: If stake decides to change requirements they have to double the prize. 

1. 30.000$ split equally between all qualifying players with bet amount of 20 cent
2. 30.000$ split equally between all qualifying players with bet amount of 10 cent

That's the only way this is fair for everyone. 

In the images you can see the conversation with support chat. My goal is not to blame any support staff here because they obviously aren't involved in anything the mysterious marketing team is doing and the fact that they don't even know that you can place bets much lower than even 10c USD (other currencies) is shocking. 

So please VOTE if you are participating into stake's promotions and at least hope for that they will provably fair pay their winners in future.

[nikathewad]

I didnt even know the min bet was reduced, do we know what day the "graphic error" occured? 

[bbua97]

3 minutes ago, nikathewad said:

I didnt even know the min bet was reduced, do we know what day the "graphic error" occured? 

Of course we do not

[Diino91]

your opinion is not fair, for example you lost much on 20c bets, then i saw for example on satureday that they reduced the bet to 10c, tried again and got the target multi.

so why should a split be fair? you dont know how much someone lost on 20c bets then saw that they reduced it and got it.

be happy that you got it, i lost 600$ and didn´t got it

[rmdilaura2]

i was trying SVE and one mod from spanish chat room told me, hey, thy changed the min bet to 0.1, if he didnt said anything i will never knew. 
weird thing tbh

[malahaygg]

yeah, they also removed 40x from Level Up challenge without any notice or reason, i tried to hit it at the start of the week and had awful seed on 40x game and lost decent amount trying to hit it and then i realized they removed that game from challenge, annoying af

[Smallacus]

What is the point of this? The min bet on that slot is $0.20 anyway. Can’t do .10 even you tried 

[malahaygg]

3 minutes ago, Smallacus said:

What is the point of this? The min bet on that slot is $0.20 anyway. Can’t do .10 even you tried 

You can, by playing IDR and TRY

[notYou]

graphic error wtf? it was initial set with a min bet of 0.20$ at monday morning. and they edited the promotioin page at tuesday to 0.10$.

 

[bbua97]

40 minutes ago, malahaygg said:

yeah, they also removed 40x from Level Up challenge without any notice or reason, i tried to hit it at the start of the week and had awful seed on 40x game and lost decent amount trying to hit it and then i realized they removed that game from challenge, annoying af

same thing, decide for something, then publish and stick to it...

1 hour ago, Diino91 said:

your opinion is not fair, for example you lost much on 20c bets, then i saw for example on satureday that they reduced the bet to 10c, tried again and got the target multi.

so why should a split be fair? you dont know how much someone lost on 20c bets then saw that they reduced it and got it.

be happy that you got it, i lost 600$ and didn´t got it

That's what stake think's too, "be happy that you get anything" and that's because they to what they want. You can also not publish any contract between two parties and change it afterwards without at least inform the other party about it, can you? 

[realguala]

very funny,min bet is 20c

[bbua97]

5 minutes ago, realguala said:

very funny,min bet is 20c

Now it get's interesting.... If this is true this isn't fair either but the other way round.

[notYou]

@NikolaRa can you clarify the details? 

[Diino91]

yes, at one point you are right, but what if someone started in general after the change? why should he get less money? and if you had hit the multi in the first 50 spins and had won the "double" because of the 20c bets you would be happy about this mistake.

the only thing that it is not ok is that they didnt announced it anywhere.

and there should be in general the same min bet every week like in others promos.

i didnt hit it anyways neither with 20c nor with 10c, so i dont care about it

 

 

 

2 hours ago, bbua97 said:

same thing, decide for something, then publish and stick to it...

That's what stake think's too, "be happy that you get anything" and that's because they to what they want. You can also not publish any contract between two parties and change it afterwards without at least inform the other party about it, can you? 

yes, at one point you are right, but what if someone started in general after the change? why should he get less money? and if you had hit the multi in the first 50 spins and had won the "double" because of the 20c bets you would be happy about this mistake.

the only thing that it is not ok is that they didnt announced it anywhere.

and there should be in general the same min bet every week like in others promos.

i didnt hit it anyways neither with 20c nor with 10c, so i dont care about it

[bbua97]

Just now, Diino91 said:

yes, at one point you are right, but what if someone started in general after the change? why should he get less money? and if you had hit the multi in the first 50 spins and had won the "double" because of the 20c bets you would be happy about this mistake.

the only thing that it is not ok is that they didnt announced it anywhere.

and there should be in general the same min bet every week like in others promos.

i didnt hit it anyways neither with 20c nor with 10c, so i dont care about it

 

 

yeah but that's a different point right. it depends on lucky anyways it's a casino, but we don't need any other random generators like the marketing team's requirement beside the slots and originals 😂

[v1rtu0s]

nothing new here, promotions still are a clusterfuck and Stake decisions about anything are made on a whim (probably reading tarot cards or something)

the only difference is that some time ago, the money you got out of the promotions somewhat felt fair or okay-ish

nowadays they're mostly not worth it, when you just aren't getting that multiplier the amount of money you could theoretically (and often realistically) sink before seeing the 1k-x you need is enormous

[SPN]

I was very lucky to hit this SVE on my very first bonus on this game, if I didn't I would have grinded the slot and yeah most likely lost a lot.
A couple friends played it a lot and lost few hundred on it and then one of them told me that Stake changed the minimum bet to 10 cents when it was only a few days left, that is not fair at all!
It's unfair for the people that played it and got it on 20c bet and it's unfair for the people that lost a lot chasing it on 20c bet instead of 10c bet.
STOP changing things in the middle of the promotion ffs Stake!

[nikathewad]

188$ not bad at all, we can check the list once its up

[SPN]

10 minutes ago, nikathewad said:

188$ not bad at all, we can check the list once its up

Yeah my 2nd best payout from SVE, my best was ankh of anubis for $275.

[bbua97]

I already know that the players with winning bet id's and 10 cent USD bet received a coupon, it would have been much more if they would have stick with the 20 cent bet amount as requirement, that's disgusting!

[soxbopp]

they have changed/lowered the bet amount in the past too, made me lost extra...Glad that stake still don't have any official announcement channel to tell people about challenge updates.

[dupeddonk]

They should not change the rules after they're posted unless there was an obvious mistake that seriously affects the spirit of the rules or the rules were not clear at first.

 

I agree some sort of compensation should be given to the players that wagered .20.

 

But really they should just not make these changes anymore.  If the min bet was supposed to be .10 but .20 was posted, just leave it.

[Btentaq]

I passed with 10c, but I didn't receive the bonus. They are scaming the participants

[giovs777]

6 minutes ago, Btentaq said:

I passed with 10c, but I didn't receive the bonus. They are scaming the participants

show your bet ID to support

[Btentaq]

1 minute ago, giovs777 said:

show your bet ID to support

I did this, but they said it changed from 10c to 20c, which is really ridiculous