Curious what a “VIP HOST” will be like when hitting plat 4? Read here!

[ebender7289]

Hey stake players! 

I recently reached Plat 4 on Aug 4th and I want to share with you what my experience with my “host” has been like in case you have your hopes up that they will somehow provide you more incentives or even remotely change your experience on stake on your journey from Plat 3 - 4! Learn from my mistakes and know that it is not worth it.

 

Some background

- The day I hit plat 4, the total W/L I was provided showed I was net losses of $70,000+. The last time I was ever in profit with Stake was July 2022 at a net profit of $41,000. So from July 22’ - Aug 23’ I collectively lost $100,000+.

- Have been in the red every month for over a year

- My total monthly losses on Aug 3rd -$8252

- My total wagered from Aug 1 - Aug 4 was very close to $300,000.

The plat 4 bonus 

- $1600 + $530 (recent play) with $73 reloads for 7 days - total 🟰 $2652

- Proceeding weekly and monthly bonus was  collectively under $500 for $322k wagered, $8k + in losses, $287k wagered in the week

The host

- Has taken anywhere from 8 hrs - 2 days to reply to me

- Has communicated and threatened to block me on telegram simply for sending more than one message (I was not spamming him, rather just communicating in sequential messages so it wasn’t just one long message)

- Has declined my request for any loss back bonus, mind you after all bonuses received for plat 4, current statistics show as of today I’m down $70,000+ lifetime still, and am down - $4100 for the month.

- His reason for declining a loss back bonus was “ I need to see a losing streak on a daily basis exponentially increasing “ Aug 8- Aug 14 I have also deposited and lost around $900. 

Conclusion

- NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU HAVE LOST ON YOUR WAY TO PLAT 4, THEIR INCENTIVES OF A LOSS BACK BONUS OR ANY BAD LUCK STREAK OF CONTINUING LOSSES THEY ADVERTISE A HOST CAN PROVIDE DOES NOT MATTER TO THEM AND YOUR HOST (or maybe just mine) REASONING BEHIND DECLINING MY REQUEST THIS DOEN’T MAKE ANY LOGICAL SENSE 

- I have witnessed other players who have wagered less, and are down less money received larger initial plat 4 bonuses by 2x-3x. Most players I have seen are receiving $1600 + $1000-$1600 for recent play, $100+ reloads. 

- I requested a new host because I thought maybe mine was just braindead or something and considering the total failure to respond, threatening to block me, provide lackluster bonuses I contacted support to request a new one. They directed me to ask my host. What happened? His response “ All host are working on same principle, so your request for a change is declined ✌️ “  

- DO NOT GET YOUR HOPES UP A HOST WILL MAKE YOYR EXPERIENCE HERE ANY BETTER

[stuckmojo]

If you look at your bonuses it says your only down 400 for the month all they look at is bonuses I swear and the bonuses do not count as money lost in my opinion cause I have been up 2k in bonuses or at least they say I am for the past 6 months....bullshit....ask for your overall stats from your host might be able to see things more clearly...I doubt it....its a big scam man I'm dying to get to plat 5 and be fucking done

[ebender7289]

Just now, stuckmojo said:

If you look at your bonuses it says your only down 400 for the month all they look at is bonuses I swear and the bonuses do not count as money lost in my opinion cause I have been up 2k in bonuses or at least they say I am for the past 6 months....bullshit....ask for your overall stats from your host might be able to see things more clearly...I doubt it....its a big scam man I'm dying to get to plat 5 and be fucking done

Yeah I’m just over this place at this point. Always an excuse and no transparency. They just gaslight you.

[XeroF]

To be fair and im not one who defends stake ever, you can clearly see this in my previous posts. But that amount of bonuses on that loss is incredible high. If you compare it with a Fiat casino you would get alot less. Fiat casinos tends to count previous 3 month losses and depending how big player you are you get 10-30% back.

The one big good thing fiat casinos have tho is they are so much more transparent in how they calculate these things. Here everything is shady cause they are not, and that is what need to change in future. 

[ebender7289]

What isn’t showing is that I was up $40,000 in July 22’ and and now I’m at -$70,000 currently. Although I lost money I won, it’s still money lost so losing over $110k and then knowing others have received more, with less losses pisses me off.
 

The frustration lies at the lack of transparency with me and also the condescending remarks from this “host”. 

 

I know if I wagered 2.5 mil and was down 100k at my local casino, it would be transparent and would be provided a better experience than this. But I agree online stake does have the best reward program none the less.

 

Just showing my experience in case there was someone like me looking forward to a host on the grind to P4 
 

 

[XeroF]

15 minutes ago, ebender7289 said:

What isn’t showing is that I was up $40,000 in July 22’ and and now I’m at -$70,000 currently. Although I lost money I won, it’s still money lost so losing over $110k and then knowing others have received more, with less losses pisses me off.
 

The frustration lies at the lack of transparency with me and also the condescending remarks from this “host”. 

 

I know if I wagered 2.5 mil and was down 100k at my local casino, it would be transparent and would be provided a better experience than this. But I agree online stake does have the best reward program none the less.

 

Just showing my experience in case there was someone like me looking forward to a host on the grind to P4 
 

 

I feel you man, I will be plat 4 in a month or so and I already know I will be dissapointed with my recent game play bonus. Also it feels like they lowered these the last month. but I will see.

[ebender7289]

Just now, XeroF said:

I feel you man, I will be plat 4 in a month or so and I already know I will be dissapointed with my recent game play bonus. Also it feels like they lowered these the last month. but I will see.

Hopefully you don’t get my host, he’s a douchebag 

[Jeebus]

Why there are differences in bonuses between players? Why someone loses 2k and gets $200 bonus from host and someone loses 10k and still gets $200 bonus from host?

Reason is simple. They evaluate and see the pattern. How much are you happy with, how much bonuses will make you deposit again, when are you depositing during the month (beginning, end, gives them clue when you get your salary or other monthly income), etc.

So if they give you $200 bonus instead of $500 and you deposit and lose again they did a good job in their mind.

It also depends if you are withdrawing bonuses or not.

 

Btw my host is okay. A bit simple, but does the job. And i block my VIP host on Telegram (few times already), not other way around.

If my host ever threatened to block me i would leave and perma close account in a blink of an eye.

[ebender7289]

16 minutes ago, Jeebus said:

Why there are differences in bonuses between players? Why someone loses 2k and gets $200 bonus from host and someone loses 10k and still gets $200 bonus from host?

Reason is simple. They evaluate and see the pattern. How much are you happy with, how much bonuses will make you deposit again, when are you depositing during the month (beginning, end, gives them clue when you get your salary or other monthly income), etc.

So if they give you $200 bonus instead of $500 and you deposit and lose again they did a good job in their mind.

It also depends if you are withdrawing bonuses or not.

 

Btw my host is okay. A bit simple, but does the job. And i block my VIP host on Telegram (few times already), not other way around.

If my host ever threatened to block me i would leave and perma close account in a blink of an eye.

Thanks for the insight. Yeah he’s a complete clown I’d love to tell him to suck me and fuck off but since he denied my request of a new host I’m fucked

[Snickers]

the worst is the "backuphost", they give you less than your normal one. My week was 50k wager, deposit 0f 1,5k lost, I get 13$ daily. The week before from my host, I had only 5k wager, and proft, I got 10$ daily. Ridiculous.

[jungl3]

Writing a post that says message Eddie on telegram gets deleted apparently.. his @ is public knowledge and he has in the past said that anybody can message him there, but I can go and fuck myself and deserve the censorship. I feel like that's a universal message to stake customers at this point: fuck you.

[Jeebus]

2 hours ago, ebender7289 said:

Thanks for the insight. Yeah he’s a complete clown I’d love to tell him to suck me and fuck off but since he denied my request of a new host I’m fucked

Try sending an email request to change host, be kind, elaborate your request, don’t make it about bonuses, but about communication with your host and the way he interacts to you. State fact which should make them appreciate you as a player rather than complain about bonuses you got/didn’t get.

could be that his superiors are unaware of his behaviour and he does not want to let you change host because it would look bad for him

[ebender7289]

8 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Try sending an email request to change host, be kind, elaborate your request, don’t make it about bonuses, but about communication with your host and the way he interacts to you. State fact which should make them appreciate you as a player rather than complain about bonuses you got/didn’t get.

could be that his superiors are unaware of his behaviour and he does not want to let you change host because it would look bad for him

Tried that. Support told me to email. They just keep going in loops. Im done trying to talk to this retarted braindead support who claims " we have no jurisdiction" to talk to A FUCKING EMPLOYEE OF THEIRS. Makes no sense. Fuck this place and this host and all of the support staff can suck my balls and die fast

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8 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Try sending an email request to change host, be kind, elaborate your request, don’t make it about bonuses, but about communication with your host and the way he interacts to you. State fact which should make them appreciate you as a player rather than complain about bonuses you got/didn’t get.

could be that his superiors are unaware of his behaviour and he does not want to let you change host because it would look bad for him

Support just blatantly lies, I had to keep messaging new people after 4 members told me they cannot contact my host "out of jurisdiction" LIKE ITS THE COURT OF LAW or some shit. These fucking retards are the ones who set me up with the host in the first place. It's like talking to a fucking brick wall. 

8 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Try sending an email request to change host, be kind, elaborate your request, don’t make it about bonuses, but about communication with your host and the way he interacts to you. State fact which should make them appreciate you as a player rather than complain about bonuses you got/didn’t get.

could be that his superiors are unaware of his behaviour and he does not want to let you change host because it would look bad for him

I asked for a new host as instructed by support, my host responds my reason for wanting a new host "isnt valid ✌️" 

WHATS NOT FUCKING VALID IS

-you take days to reply

-your rude as fuck

-your condescending 

FUCKKKKKKK THESE CLOWN ASS INSECTS

 

[ghostman]

I also have friends with the same complaint as you. and also it seems that everything is so. but I don't know either

[ebender7289]

5 minutes ago, ghostman said:

I also have friends with the same complaint as you. and also it seems that everything is so. but I don't know either

Yeah, sucks you grind and stick with a casino and get GASLIT. If I took this play to any of my home casinos I would never have a complaint. That's their strat tho! Can't do shit about it if you can see them in person or they can simply ignore or repeat pre-written responses! Fucking duck ass clowns

[AceJaAC]

13 hours ago, stuckmojo said:

If you look at your bonuses it says your only down 400 for the month all they look at is bonuses I swear and the bonuses do not count as money lost in my opinion cause I have been up 2k in bonuses or at least they say I am for the past 6 months....bullshit....ask for your overall stats from your host might be able to see things more clearly...I doubt it....its a big scam man I'm dying to get to plat 5 and be fucking done

Same here bro.feels hopeless as day goes by

1 hour ago, ebender7289 said:

Tried that. Support told me to email. They just keep going in loops. Im done trying to talk to this retarted braindead support who claims " we have no jurisdiction" to talk to A FUCKING EMPLOYEE OF THEIRS. Makes no sense. Fuck this place and this host and all of the support staff can suck my balls and die fast

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Support just blatantly lies, I had to keep messaging new people after 4 members told me they cannot contact my host "out of jurisdiction" LIKE ITS THE COURT OF LAW or some shit. These fucking retards are the ones who set me up with the host in the first place. It's like talking to a fucking brick wall. 

I asked for a new host as instructed by support, my host responds my reason for wanting a new host "isnt valid ✌️" 

WHATS NOT FUCKING VALID IS

-you take days to reply

-your rude as fuck

-your condescending 

FUCKKKKKKK THESE CLOWN ASS INSECTS

 

Some says
eligibility to ask bonus from your host is 

-need to have at least $1000 fresh loss(It means fresh overall loss not profit loss

Hope this might so your host will not gonna say your spamming. 
 

And hope we all can still  recover brother from our losses. Cause its been from bad to worst every day that passes. Anyways Best of luck

What I observed too was all the bonuses especially reloads always seemed cursed. like no chance of winning at all. I don't know but since  then thats what happened to me. 

12 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Why there are differences in bonuses between players? Why someone loses 2k and gets $200 bonus from host and someone loses 10k and still gets $200 bonus from host?

Reason is simple. They evaluate and see the pattern. How much are you happy with, how much bonuses will make you deposit again, when are you depositing during the month (beginning, end, gives them clue when you get your salary or other monthly income), etc.

So if they give you $200 bonus instead of $500 and you deposit and lose again they did a good job in their mind.

It also depends if you are withdrawing bonuses or not.

 

Btw my host is okay. A bit simple, but does the job. And i block my VIP host on Telegram (few times already), not other way around.

If my host ever threatened to block me i would leave and perma close account in a blink of an eye.

May I ask if what do you mean when you said if your withdrawing bonuses?

15 minutes ago, AceJaAC said:

Same here bro.feels hopeless as day goes by

Some says
eligibility to ask bonus from your host is 

-need to have at least $1000 fresh loss(It means fresh overall loss not profit loss

Hope this might so your host will not gonna say your spamming. 
 

And hope we all can still  recover brother from our losses. Cause its been from bad to worst every day that passes. Anyways Best of luck

What I observed too was all the bonuses especially reloads always seemed cursed. like no chance of winning at all. I don't know but since  then thats what happened to me. 

May I ask if what do you mean when you said if your withdrawing bonuses?

Thank you

[Snickers]

17 minutes ago, AceJaAC said:

Same here bro.feels hopeless as day goes by

Some says
eligibility to ask bonus from your host is 

-need to have at least $1000 fresh loss(It means fresh overall loss not profit loss

Hope this might so your host will not gonna say your spamming. 
 

And hope we all can still  recover brother from our losses. Cause its been from bad to worst every day that passes. Anyways Best of luck

What I observed too was all the bonuses especially reloads always seemed cursed. like no chance of winning at all. I don't know but since  then thats what happened to me. 

May I ask if what do you mean when you said if your withdrawing bonuses?

Thank you

I have 1.5 k fresh deposit loss and of course now my host is 17 days off and only the backuphost is available. And these backup people dont give extra bonuses. They only give the reload, and also only the minimum, or I suppose even less for the reload. This whole viphost bullshxt is nex level nonsense.

I bet once my host is back, after 17 (!!!) days off my fresh loss is not even registered anymore and I dont get shit.

[AceJaAC]

All I can say brother is its getting bad. But we will see. I just hope for the switch to get flipped again even just for once but if still like atm continuously going downfall then for sure i can say reaching plat 4 is not worth it.  But i still have my hopes tho. Best of luck to us all

[ricecakesushi]

hope u will recover man

[BigMum]

Being loyal to a casino has no point, neither the owners can keep up nor players. Casino is a business with "profit" as their business model. Don't expect shit from these hoes anyway.

[Alvarriti]

On 8/14/2023 at 1:12 PM, ebender7289 said:

Hey stake players! 

I recently reached Plat 4 on Aug 4th and I want to share with you what my experience with my “host” has been like in case you have your hopes up that they will somehow provide you more incentives or even remotely change your experience on stake on your journey from Plat 3 - 4! Learn from my mistakes and know that it is not worth it.

 

Some background

- The day I hit plat 4, the total W/L I was provided showed I was net losses of $70,000+. The last time I was ever in profit with Stake was July 2022 at a net profit of $41,000. So from July 22’ - Aug 23’ I collectively lost $100,000+.

- Have been in the red every month for over a year

- My total monthly losses on Aug 3rd -$8252

- My total wagered from Aug 1 - Aug 4 was very close to $300,000.

The plat 4 bonus 

- $1600 + $530 (recent play) with $73 reloads for 7 days - total 🟰 $2652

- Proceeding weekly and monthly bonus was  collectively under $500 for $322k wagered, $8k + in losses, $287k wagered in the week

The host

- Has taken anywhere from 8 hrs - 2 days to reply to me

- Has communicated and threatened to block me on telegram simply for sending more than one message (I was not spamming him, rather just communicating in sequential messages so it wasn’t just one long message)

- Has declined my request for any loss back bonus, mind you after all bonuses received for plat 4, current statistics show as of today I’m down $70,000+ lifetime still, and am down - $4100 for the month.

- His reason for declining a loss back bonus was “ I need to see a losing streak on a daily basis exponentially increasing “ Aug 8- Aug 14 I have also deposited and lost around $900. 

Conclusion

- NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU HAVE LOST ON YOUR WAY TO PLAT 4, THEIR INCENTIVES OF A LOSS BACK BONUS OR ANY BAD LUCK STREAK OF CONTINUING LOSSES THEY ADVERTISE A HOST CAN PROVIDE DOES NOT MATTER TO THEM AND YOUR HOST (or maybe just mine) REASONING BEHIND DECLINING MY REQUEST THIS DOEN’T MAKE ANY LOGICAL SENSE 

- I have witnessed other players who have wagered less, and are down less money received larger initial plat 4 bonuses by 2x-3x. Most players I have seen are receiving $1600 + $1000-$1600 for recent play, $100+ reloads. 

- I requested a new host because I thought maybe mine was just braindead or something and considering the total failure to respond, threatening to block me, provide lackluster bonuses I contacted support to request a new one. They directed me to ask my host. What happened? His response “ All host are working on same principle, so your request for a change is declined ✌️ “  

- DO NOT GET YOUR HOPES UP A HOST WILL MAKE YOYR EXPERIENCE HERE ANY BETTER

Bro , you're lossing 4k on 300k wagger , it is a joke!  what kind of money back do you want ? With 4k i did 20k wagger , so you're getting better weekly , better montly and still asking for more ? 🤣