AdamBetsMax Posted December 30, 2023 #1 Posted December 30, 2023 We see max wins all the time on Hacksaw, No Limit, and other Pragmatic Games with 5,000x to 20,000x but how come I have not see ONE max win on Sweet Bonanza or Buffalo Spirit for that matter? These games have been around since World War I and still no documented max wins. Hmm....
nightjdp Posted December 30, 2023 #2 Posted December 30, 2023 What is the max win on those? When there is a cap on how much multiplier you can hit, you tend to see them more often. A 10,000x max win on a NoLimit Game just means technically the game could hit more, so the chances of hitting that cap is greater. If a NoLimit game can hit a 10,000x but the reels could technically line up for 20,000x, then to get the max win you are only making the game hit 50% of it's true potential The Pragmatic is probably set up so the most the game reels could possibly hit is 5,000x. So the chances of you hitting that is much smaller, as the machine would have to line up exactly in one way. That is probably the reason. Pragmatic games are pretty dull. A casual players slot. IMO Blueprint is far superior at doing those sort of games. NoLimit is the boss when it comes to excitement and crazy potential.
Efe Posted December 30, 2023 #3 Posted December 30, 2023 Dude I never saw max win in sweet bonanza , I think it never gives 21000x
AdamBetsMax Posted December 30, 2023 Author #4 Posted December 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, nightjdp said: What is the max win on those? When there is a cap on how much multiplier you can hit, you tend to see them more often. A 10,000x max win on a NoLimit Game just means technically the game could hit more, so the chances of hitting that cap is greater. If a NoLimit game can hit a 10,000x but the reels could technically line up for 20,000x, then to get the max win you are only making the game hit 50% of it's true potential The Pragmatic is probably set up so the most the game reels could possibly hit is 5,000x. So the chances of you hitting that is much smaller, as the machine would have to line up exactly in one way. That is probably the reason. Pragmatic games are pretty dull. A casual players slot. IMO Blueprint is far superior at doing those sort of games. NoLimit is the boss when it comes to excitement and crazy potential. this does not make sense as other Pragmatics have hit max win MANY times... just not Sweet Bonanza and Buffalo Rising
N8erade91 Posted December 30, 2023 #5 Posted December 30, 2023 Lol fucking shits a scam what do you expect.
nightjdp Posted December 30, 2023 #8 Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, AdamBetsMax said: this does not make sense as other Pragmatics have hit max win MANY times... just not Sweet Bonanza and Buffalo Rising The logic 100% makes sense. On what games it's applied is another story. What you are suggesting from your comments, is that every single slot machine is exactly the same they just have different graphics, and because these slots have not behaved how others made by the same provider, then there's some sort of funny business going on. Dude, top clinical behavioural psychologist make these games along with gifted mathematicians and graphic designers. People that play these things are nothing but proverbial rats in the maze in their laboratories. They get off by screwing with your head, and they get paid handsomely for it. You know if you're ever going to be good at anything, you need to make informed choices. You can't play the game if you don't even realise the game you're playing. That's why when degen gamblers win, they always give it back, because for zero reason, degens think they're gaming them and got it all worked out. But it ain't you laughing all the way to the bank, it's them. Wise up or get dried up.
oPartial Posted December 30, 2023 #9 Posted December 30, 2023 3 hours ago, AdamBetsMax said: We see max wins all the time on Hacksaw, No Limit, and other Pragmatic Games with 5,000x to 20,000x but how come I have not see ONE max win on Sweet Bonanza or Buffalo Spirit for that matter? These games have been around since World War I and still no documented max wins. Hmm.... Those games are considered 'low volatile' games which means essentially the max win is ALOT rarer than some other games. I'm talking WAY rarer.
AdamBetsMax Posted December 30, 2023 Author #14 Posted December 30, 2023 I got the best answer on CasinoMeister forum: Quote In the old days, providers used to advertise "win up to" as a guideline to the biggest potential hit in the game (which is different to a capped win seen frequently now-a-days). The wins were actually capped by liability (e.g. £100k, £250k) rather than multiplier of stake. In the case of those early Pragmatics, they did the same thing but the odds of hitting it were truly astronomical - like the 60000x on Extra Juicy required you to hit the bonus, 4 retriggers, and then the 1000x screen on the final spin. If they were required to disclose the "win up to" based on the 10 billion spins used for RTP calculations - I doubt you'd see anywhere near that multiplier... I would not be surprised in the slightest if the odds are into the trillions or quadrillions. Additionally, with scripted or scratchcard slots the pay profile has changed dramatically - wins that were literally one in a billion (Immortal Romance, Avalon 2 etc) on traditional reels can now be controlled to be considerably more frequent (e.g. one in ten million, even one in a million) and bonus buys and similar mechanics that speed-run the spin speed (because instead of being 1 spin every 3 seconds, a bonus buy could be the equivalent of cherry picking one from 100, 1000, 10k or even 100k spins in a theoretical sense - and that 10000x "max win" is actually a 1 in 6 pie gamble dressed up as a slot machine). That a scripted slot needs a "max win" in the first place is laughable - the entire spin is scripted, so they design a spin that "pays" 60000x, and then caps you at 10000x because that's the max win... we're not talking about a fluke here, we're talking about a deceptive and dishonest decision to award a win that cannot be paid. It would be annoying for a traditional slot to have a capped win, but at least there are reasons for that (malfunctions, liability limits, regulatory caps etc).
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