The reality of loyal players at Stake (And why you shouldn't be one)

[Basha]

Two things to clarify:

1. Statistics of profit/loss are totally accurate. However, they give it to you by crypto coins or the value of it in usd at their current price. 
I remember depositing ETH when it was $260 per 1 ETH, now it is $2600

2. Since you play every day, you will not win. Even f you get lucky and win $150K from a $500 deposit, you'll lose it in the same/next day. You gotta take breaks and clear your mind.

so take a big F* break, preferably, a long one

[madwish35]

9 minutes ago, Basha said:

Two things to clarify:

1. Statistics of profit/loss are totally accurate. However, they give it to you by crypto coins or the value of it in usd at their current price. 
I remember depositing ETH when it was $260 per 1 ETH, now it is $2600

2. Since you play every day, you will not win. Even f you get lucky and win $150K from a $500 deposit, you'll lose it in the same/next day. You gotta take breaks and clear your mind.

so take a big F* break, preferably, a long one

Thanks for the advice, but once again the entire topic is about benefits and shity experience, not about winning and loosing. That was just conclusion of everything happening arround. Agree with your statement fully, but I disagree that statistics are accurate however.

Loosing and winning, is two-way thing. Being twisted all the way is third. 

 

Thanks for reply man👍

[mrdogecoin]

I'm platinum 3, I'm at exactly 20%, the upgrade is slow, a lot has changed over the years. The host was a prize for those who reached platinum 3, then it changed to 4. The top-ups changed. the staking system is breaking, the casino is regressing. They create events for some things and not for others. after the casino lost money it seems that it lost quality. but we continue to bet because we have the false impression of being rewarded with monthly and weekly bonuses. otherwise, without this, many would have stopped playing. No one watches lives for the pleasure of seeing other players win, but for the sake of earning bonus drops. So in my opinion nothing will change!

[madwish35]

3 hours ago, mrdogecoin said:

I'm platinum 3, I'm at exactly 20%, the upgrade is slow, a lot has changed over the years. The host was a prize for those who reached platinum 3, then it changed to 4. The top-ups changed. the staking system is breaking, the casino is regressing. They create events for some things and not for others. after the casino lost money it seems that it lost quality. but we continue to bet because we have the false impression of being rewarded with monthly and weekly bonuses. otherwise, without this, many would have stopped playing. No one watches lives for the pleasure of seeing other players win, but for the sake of earning bonus drops. So in my opinion nothing will change!

Things gettin worse n worse. I'm sad to see that we gettin cut off from crane, which we builded together.

[Rαbαn]

On 2/12/2024 at 3:52 PM, madwish35 said:

Dear all,

 

I made this topic to discuss reality of being loyal at Stake.com.

Currently I'm Plat 5 player with less more 39% left to Plat 6. I do play everything starting originals ending up with some slots and sport bets. Since 6-7 Months my deposits been steady what means I literally deposited almost every 24 hours to Stake.com starting with lowrest 50$ ending up to 1,000+ pro deposit.

The beginning of me starting playing very actively was fine,- sometimes win, sometimes loss.

Suddenly, something happened that I started to loss every coin I deposit on Stake. No Matter what, I do I were loosing straight 1.01 dice bets, low keno bets with 10 numbers, and yeah not one of them but 10+ in a row. Looks like still nothing bad.. switched to sports , were able to win couple bets, but still was volatile as the stake doesn't guarantee cashout options, even though they set their game "to be covered" .

Well weeks lasted, months gone... still I try to win and get some money back, but my red line just gets bigger and bigger... I start to complain, I communicate with ny host asking to provide lossback on -15k , -10k and similiar runs. Host at the beginning seems fine and sends me 50-100$ vault bonus.  Me being degen thinking that I now may win money back, is the worst part of it. Thoose Bonuses which host sent to vault were purely popcorns which didn't even gave me a chance to win - instant loss.

 

Well times travel fast, losses increased... I'm gettint in my saving account... -40k US$ gone in 3 Months..

I'm asking my host to provide me my full time statistics on Stake.com .. she seems fine with that and sends me screenshoot..

That's where I'm getting confused as hell.

Binance shows one ammount, stake shows different ammount.. I'm tryint find out whats happening there.. P.S: most funny fact of this all was that statistics showed up that I'm in overall profit on Stake.. Well, I didn't replied my host and went ask my friends who gamble on Stake to request their statistics so we can look it up together... and guess what... all of them were in Overall profit, no matter that they lost all of their funds, sold their cards, maxed out credit cards and took loans from banks or sharks online. Hmm... Strange we started to notice that stats doesn't match the withdrawls history from Binance and other platforms... We decided to ask our hosts how it work, and no one were able to explain that properly .. / Quote: "Tips are not profit - Host A" / "Tips are counted as profit - Hosr B" , / "This is internal question" - Host C and many more unlogical answers which bring non sense absolutely to their stats system.

Suddenly times pases more futher, and Stake's - " Marketing Team "  sends out the bonuses for inactive users who deposited less or more but stayed inactive for months after suffering ripperoni on that website. We got shocked with our hommies seing people being credited thousands of dollars , and being sent messages from support asking if this promo is legit, that they are very loyal customers and Stake.com glad to have them.

More time passes, bonuses becoming terribile, lossback is not exsistence, impossibile to wager, site lagging... A lot of players gone, different platforms inviting people , offer welcome bonuses.. we decide to stay and give Stake chance to proove that its still the best crypto based casino.. That's where we did mistakes, we all got totally ripped off and our all funds got soaked. 

Short story long.. as .us appeared online, kick became getting bigger, stake started to reinvested players funds to projects to promote thir name, they lost reptuation in eyes of players who suffered losses and lost all they had. The delicate take and give doesnt exsist there anymore.

Casino bussiness, shouldn't be a charity or giveway pool (LOL, well their statistics claiming that all of the us are in profit, so who knows) ..  // Everyone understand that you may losse and win, but to be twisted every day, because you "can afford to deposit" and "thoose depositing less should win" system isn't the way how it suppose to work in my eyes. And thoose marketing bonuses for "inactive" is total disrespect of people literally depositing there and playin on thei own funds. My self personally I have about 300 pages in Casino bets for last periods of all them being fuck*** up.

 

What is your experience folks?

 

Regards, 

 

Madwish

 

Its just shameless how you get treated as a long time customer. Have exactly the same expirience with stake. Its not gambling anymore, its straight donation everytime you deposit here. Sad place for loyal player 

[Jeebus]

Same thing here. 
as I reached platinum 5 everything stopped. 
I got bigger reloads when i reached platinum 4 - bigger amount and two weeks. 
Makes no sense.

I also asked my host to investigate my gameplay - playing extremely low volatile slot (average bonus feature within 50-70 spins) and i did over 5000 spins without a single bonus feature. 
My host says they checked with provider and everything is fine, yet refused to send me any screenshot or anything that would confirm they actually checked this with provider. Actually, my host replied to me that Stake original games have 1% house edge, which made ZERO sense since i don’t play originals, but only slots. That confirms he did not even bother to look at my account.

Also I lost shitload, and was denied lossback, because I got “enough already” according to my host. Only thing I got is upgrade bonus which i grinded for hard. 
 

So they used upgrade bonus as excuse to lower my reloads, deny lossback, weekly has been crap as well even though i lost 25k last 30 days and wagered almost a million.

I wait for monthly and I’m packing my bags and leaving Stake forever. 10000% determined to do so.

 

p.s.

i won’t even mention fake giveaways they run and other manipulations

[madwish35]

11 hours ago, Rαbαn said:

Its just shameless how you get treated as a long time customer. Have exactly the same expirience with stake. Its not gambling anymore, its straight donation everytime you deposit here. Sad place for loyal player 

I'm feeling just to leave this provider, the bonuses are no more worth to chase. And being always f..... like you mentioned can't be accepeted. Everytime I deposited , everytime I took it all, not even a single chance to double it were there.

10 hours ago, Jeebus said:

Same thing here. 
as I reached platinum 5 everything stopped. 
I got bigger reloads when i reached platinum 4 - bigger amount and two weeks. 
Makes no sense.

I also asked my host to investigate my gameplay - playing extremely low volatile slot (average bonus feature within 50-70 spins) and i did over 5000 spins without a single bonus feature. 
My host says they checked with provider and everything is fine, yet refused to send me any screenshot or anything that would confirm they actually checked this with provider. Actually, my host replied to me that Stake original games have 1% house edge, which made ZERO sense since i don’t play originals, but only slots. That confirms he did not even bother to look at my account.

Also I lost shitload, and was denied lossback, because I got “enough already” according to my host. Only thing I got is upgrade bonus which i grinded for hard. 
 

So they used upgrade bonus as excuse to lower my reloads, deny lossback, weekly has been crap as well even though i lost 25k last 30 days and wagered almost a million.

I wait for monthly and I’m packing my bags and leaving Stake forever. 10000% determined to do so.

 

p.s.

i won’t even mention fake giveaways they run and other manipulations

We all just need to get that "inside power" to leave. I'm doing the same way. I don't see any potential playing there. 

[ImYourWaifu]

idk when i started to play here it was good but after 1-2 good sessions came like 20 bad session im just tired of it, like i cant even get a little green on the graph its just going down red zero, and im not degening..

[madwish35]

11 hours ago, ImYourWaifu said:

idk when i started to play here it was good but after 1-2 good sessions came like 20 bad session im just tired of it, like i cant even get a little green on the graph its just going down red zero, and im not degening..

Yeah the downgrade of return to players feels absolutely high. Everyday gettin worse and worse.

[AgentZero110]

Im 33 and i gamble since the age of 15. No matter what you do you will lose in the end. Even if you hit 1 milion dollars by any miracle  you will continue. Gambling is a very expensive habit and you basically can lose all your life. My advice is to quit or stick to realistic limits which is a hard thing to do. I hit hard bottoms in my live because of this addiction. Be careful and good luck.

[imantsk1]

Stake is giving up 🆙 

[CardsFan2021]

On 2/12/2024 at 9:17 AM, RoshMaxWin69 said:

My experience is basically identical to OP. Ever since I hit Plat IV I haven't been able to win...like ever. Not one winning day and I play ever single day. The VIP loss backs, which were terrible to begin with, are nonexistent and support only replies to my complaints and my stats (which are basically mathematically impossible) with the same copied and pasted 2-3 replies.

 

Stake has made it abundantly clear that they couldn't care less about the loyal/core player and they're only interested in acquiring new players.

I feel the same way ever since I hit Plat IV, it’s like the RTP has taken a 💩 and I can’t do anything and those reloads I get have been garbage 

[disaster19]

I feel you man, even if you cant do anything just please dont troll people. I really hate this duo cause always cringe and love to make fun of people that asking their right

[XeroF]

Thats the thing Im getting more and more upset by the trolling of their loyal customers like what other company does this? Almost mocking people that lost alot, its just crazy. 

[Justinaz30]

Stake become so cheap when they grow up to big casino... I joined stake 3 years ago, it was already big one, but not like this and bonuses was really good at that time, everything was clear how they calculate them and etc. Then they start all this marketing to get even bigger as all companies want to do, but I can say I never saw company with this bad marketing team, they trolling people, start hiding formula how bonuses calculated (say that a lot of factories included) but at the end bonuses get way worse then before, last few months rtp not nowhere to be found on stake. And I didn't even mention these shady social giveaways where same peoples win them over and over again out of 4k comments. I'm getting really bad experience on stake lately overall, looks like Kick is way more important for them and they don't even care about  their casino customers anymore.

[Snickers]

54 minutes ago, disaster19 said:

I feel you man, even if you cant do anything just please dont troll people. I really hate this duo cause always cringe and love to make fun of people that asking their right

 

Really not cool to treat people like that. Hopefully karma is a thing.

[madwish35]

3 hours ago, Justinaz30 said:

Stake become so cheap when they grow up to big casino... I joined stake 3 years ago, it was already big one, but not like this and bonuses was really good at that time, everything was clear how they calculate them and etc. Then they start all this marketing to get even bigger as all companies want to do, but I can say I never saw company with this bad marketing team, they trolling people, start hiding formula how bonuses calculated (say that a lot of factories included) but at the end bonuses get way worse then before, last few months rtp not nowhere to be found on stake. And I didn't even mention these shady social giveaways where same peoples win them over and over again out of 4k comments. I'm getting really bad experience on stake lately overall, looks like Kick is way more important for them and they don't even care about  their casino customers anymore.

Most important is that people will recieve monthly, forget all negative factors and dive back to deep ocean 🤌

[v1rtu0s]

I agree, Stake has rapidly become exact the kind of corrupt anti-consumer industry heavyweight they once sought out to destroy, it's a tale as old as time

On the plus side, I actually think the chances of we all getting to witness how eddie is going to prison in handcuffs for a long ass time, is about 5% (totally informed opinion of course lol), which is pretty high and has me quite excited for the future

[skleven]

I will comment on the statistics part here. If you need stats for wagering requrements for the week, it`s fine.

But if you want to know your win/loss, forget it. You will never come close to the real figures at Stake. Keep stats yourself.

Your profit is very easy to keep track of. Withdrawals+balance (with value at the time) minus deposits (value at the time). Any bonus, tips or rewards lost is irrellevant.

[madwish35]

11 hours ago, v1rtu0s said:

I agree, Stake has rapidly become exact the kind of corrupt anti-consumer industry heavyweight they once sought out to destroy, it's a tale as old as time

On the plus side, I actually think the chances of we all getting to witness how eddie is going to prison in handcuffs for a long ass time, is about 5% (totally informed opinion of course lol), which is pretty high and has me quite excited for the future

-13,000$ got me 320$ monthly on plat 5 with 150k wagered 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[XeroF]

16 hours ago, madwish35 said:

-13,000$ got me 320$ monthly on plat 5 with 150k wagered 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Thats beyond fucked up

[Lylanna]

I just don't like them paying millionaires money to stream (one of them once or twice a year) and giving them million(s) to play with. That is a lot of money that could be spent better. Marketing needs to rethink their methods.

[skleven]

On 2/16/2024 at 6:44 AM, madwish35 said:

-13,000$ got me 320$ monthly on plat 5 with 150k wagered 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Had basicly 1/10 of loss and wager. And got the same at Plat 4. wtf? 🤣

[trinitytiny1]

On 2/12/2024 at 11:52 PM, madwish35 said:

Dear all,

 

I made this topic to discuss reality of being loyal at Stake.com.

Currently I'm Plat 5 player with less more 39% left to Plat 6. I do play everything starting originals ending up with some slots and sport bets. Since 6-7 Months my deposits been steady what means I literally deposited almost every 24 hours to Stake.com starting with lowrest 50$ ending up to 1,000+ pro deposit.

The beginning of me starting playing very actively was fine,- sometimes win, sometimes loss.

Suddenly, something happened that I started to loss every coin I deposit on Stake. No Matter what, I do I were loosing straight 1.01 dice bets, low keno bets with 10 numbers, and yeah not one of them but 10+ in a row. Looks like still nothing bad.. switched to sports , were able to win couple bets, but still was volatile as the stake doesn't guarantee cashout options, even though they set their game "to be covered" .

Well weeks lasted, months gone... still I try to win and get some money back, but my red line just gets bigger and bigger... I start to complain, I communicate with ny host asking to provide lossback on -15k , -10k and similiar runs. Host at the beginning seems fine and sends me 50-100$ vault bonus.  Me being degen thinking that I now may win money back, is the worst part of it. Thoose Bonuses which host sent to vault were purely popcorns which didn't even gave me a chance to win - instant loss.

 

Well times travel fast, losses increased... I'm gettint in my saving account... -40k US$ gone in 3 Months..

I'm asking my host to provide me my full time statistics on Stake.com .. she seems fine with that and sends me screenshoot..

That's where I'm getting confused as hell.

Binance shows one ammount, stake shows different ammount.. I'm tryint find out whats happening there.. P.S: most funny fact of this all was that statistics showed up that I'm in overall profit on Stake.. Well, I didn't replied my host and went ask my friends who gamble on Stake to request their statistics so we can look it up together... and guess what... all of them were in Overall profit, no matter that they lost all of their funds, sold their cards, maxed out credit cards and took loans from banks or sharks online. Hmm... Strange we started to notice that stats doesn't match the withdrawls history from Binance and other platforms... We decided to ask our hosts how it work, and no one were able to explain that properly .. / Quote: "Tips are not profit - Host A" / "Tips are counted as profit - Hosr B" , / "This is internal question" - Host C and many more unlogical answers which bring non sense absolutely to their stats system.

Suddenly times pases more futher, and Stake's - " Marketing Team "  sends out the bonuses for inactive users who deposited less or more but stayed inactive for months after suffering ripperoni on that website. We got shocked with our hommies seing people being credited thousands of dollars , and being sent messages from support asking if this promo is legit, that they are very loyal customers and Stake.com glad to have them.

More time passes, bonuses becoming terribile, lossback is not exsistence, impossibile to wager, site lagging... A lot of players gone, different platforms inviting people , offer welcome bonuses.. we decide to stay and give Stake chance to proove that its still the best crypto based casino.. That's where we did mistakes, we all got totally ripped off and our all funds got soaked. 

Short story long.. as .us appeared online, kick became getting bigger, stake started to reinvested players funds to projects to promote thir name, they lost reptuation in eyes of players who suffered losses and lost all they had. The delicate take and give doesnt exsist there anymore.

Casino bussiness, shouldn't be a charity or giveway pool (LOL, well their statistics claiming that all of the us are in profit, so who knows) ..  // Everyone understand that you may losse and win, but to be twisted every day, because you "can afford to deposit" and "thoose depositing less should win" system isn't the way how it suppose to work in my eyes. And thoose marketing bonuses for "inactive" is total disrespect of people literally depositing there and playin on thei own funds. My self personally I have about 300 pages in Casino bets for last periods of all them being fuck*** up.

 

What is your experience folks?

 

Regards, 

 

Madwish

 

 

GREAT POST

 

[Hamil14]

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