Snickers Posted April 30, 2024 #1 Posted April 30, 2024 Look at this scam. To make this more clear, in my last seassion I lost 3 of the last 30 rolls on over 50.00, only winning 200 of 500 rolls overall on a 50/50 chance. So obviously there MUST be a run coming with with high numbers, right? Well fk no Another 73:44 losses on the same outcome, losing the last 570$ I had on the site ( top vip bonus and some small leftovers). In this I lost 16 of the last 20 rolls, just as bad as the session before. If I bet the other side I am 100% sure the outcome would have been the same. Seed and "provably fair" are the biggest bs ever told on the internet. You raise the wager, you lose, you change the site to bet on, you lose. It is based on what you do, nothing with "random" and all these other lies they tell. And don't start with "small sample size" and all this nonsense. Every session you lose over 60-70% on a 50/50 chance, every single session Don't play at stake, they sold their soul and scam the shit out of you until you are broke.
Moderator maverick528 Posted April 30, 2024 Moderator #2 Posted April 30, 2024 If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet.
D00ty Posted April 30, 2024 #3 Posted April 30, 2024 22 minutes ago, maverick528 said: If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet. 25 minutes ago, maverick528 said: If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet.
maxisl Posted April 30, 2024 #4 Posted April 30, 2024 1 hour ago, maverick528 said: If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet. stake motto play smarter but there is no strategy works with dice because script determines the results before he plays provably scripts is a company owned by stake when you play randomly you will get streak Lossing when you play 1 side and double you will get streak lossing even if you play 20 30 50 100 x you will lose your balance and every time the goal will be further away until you lose more and more and more and more when you lose a lot and press the rakeback to try with small bets you will get the goal so easy 😁 trolling trolling 😂 i lost $60000 in dice and i know every word i wrote very well and i left stake for this reason all original games are in the same style
Snickers Posted May 1, 2024 Author #5 Posted May 1, 2024 9 hours ago, maverick528 said: If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet. ABsolute NONSENSE. Once you raise the wager you lose, that is a given at stake. Mathmatically whats happening here makes no sense. Losing 15-20 50/50 rolls in a row every session can't happen mathmatically. The odds of this happening are so slim, yet it happens every single time. But winning 15 times in a row is IMPOSSIBLE, I have NEVER seen that. 7 times or 8 times maybe, but never double digits which the house manages to get every single session. So get lost with we don't understand how this nonsense works. You can prove there is a fair game, 99% of players are losing these games because the math doesnt add up. Thanks for yous biased input though, smh.
CoolNit Posted May 1, 2024 #6 Posted May 1, 2024 100% correct. Don’t listen to the moderators Ofcose they work for stake what other reply can you expect. and they think we are just passed out of school and don’t know math! let the moderators play the same game and let them share the screenshot it’s all rigged. Yes it can be all mathematical but here is stake completely rigged based on your bet. I had put 98% win rate bets and I lost like 12 times in 100 without even changing the seed. Where is your math? I was suppose to lose max 2-3 times
karthik999 Posted May 1, 2024 #8 Posted May 1, 2024 Bro, you forgot about how the house edge works. There is slightly more advantage for the house to win at the end, so play only for fun , not to win. You win at unexpected times, never know.
maxisl Posted May 1, 2024 #9 Posted May 1, 2024 6 hours ago, karthik999 said: Bro, you forgot about how the house edge works. There is slightly more advantage for the house to win at the end, so play only for fun , not to win. You win at unexpected times, never know. play for lose If you mean then this is not gambling you will not see 1 player getting 10 greens while every day he gets (15 - 20 spin ) streak lossing on 50% chance
Subzero Posted May 1, 2024 #10 Posted May 1, 2024 there is no 50:50 chance in dice - its actually a 49.5% as it only pays x1.98
Snickers Posted May 2, 2024 Author #12 Posted May 2, 2024 6 hours ago, Subzero said: there is no 50:50 chance in dice - its actually a 49.5% as it only pays x1.98 when you bet under 50.5 or over 49.5 your chance is easy 50/50, just the payout doesn't reflect 50/50 odds. I am talking about the chance to win, not the payout odds.
ProvablyFairLOL Posted May 2, 2024 #13 Posted May 2, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 3:26 PM, maverick528 said: If you really understand how provably fair works, you can not say this. After you chose the seed pair (server seed and your own client seed) , all the sequence of results you will get on any of the original Stake games (excluding crash and slide) is already predetermined and written in stone. So the casino cant change the sequence of results you will get, no matter if you bet big bets or small bets. Unfortunately 99% of ppl dont understand the maths used in provably fair, but it is very important that Stake has this, and other casinos dont have this user protection at all. The foundation of this can be found in criptography, its important for example to understand SHA256 and that nobody in the world ever found a collision yet. Please explain what provably fair means in the context of losing 20 consecutive hands of blackjack and 50 consecutive hands of video poker playing by the book? Because this happens about 90% of the time I play originals.
Moderator maverick528 Posted May 2, 2024 Moderator #14 Posted May 2, 2024 24 minutes ago, ProvablyFairLOL said: Please explain what provably fair means in the context of losing 20 consecutive hands of blackjack and 50 consecutive hands of video poker playing by the book? Because this happens about 90% of the time I play originals. Red streaks are part of the variance in results. On the other hand, most ppl dont use a correct strat on BJ in Stake because using infinite card decks changes several things. And the other problem is using a simple martingale strat in the bets of BJ, thats a recipe for disaster sooner or later. As you probably know if you are a true gambler, there are basically 2 types of games = 1) games like BJ where loses are inevitable (because you can not bet that banker will win) and 2) games like roulette where every roll there is a winning option and you can freely bet in all possible options In BJ its a math fact that there are some hands that no strat can win, not even Superman looking with x ray the opponents cards can win. So maybe you can start playing type 2 games, where everything depends on you.
Light1 Posted May 2, 2024 #15 Posted May 2, 2024 On 5/1/2024 at 2:26 PM, CoolNit said: 100% correct. Don’t listen to the moderators Ofcose they work for stake what other reply can you expect. and they think we are just passed out of school and don’t know math! let the moderators play the same game and let them share the screenshot it’s all rigged. Yes it can be all mathematical but here is stake completely rigged based on your bet. I had put 98% win rate bets and I lost like 12 times in 100 without even changing the seed. Where is your math? I was suppose to lose max 2-3 times Yeah. You are right. Stake bases on your bets and its rigged all time when u do big bets or try to win one one side. Stats shows it very clear.
ProvablyFairLOL Posted May 2, 2024 #16 Posted May 2, 2024 3 hours ago, maverick528 said: Red streaks are part of the variance in results. On the other hand, most ppl dont use a correct strat on BJ in Stake because using infinite card decks changes several things. And the other problem is using a simple martingale strat in the bets of BJ, thats a recipe for disaster sooner or later. As you probably know if you are a true gambler, there are basically 2 types of games = 1) games like BJ where loses are inevitable (because you can not bet that banker will win) and 2) games like roulette where every roll there is a winning option and you can freely bet in all possible options In BJ its a math fact that there are some hands that no strat can win, not even Superman looking with x ray the opponents cards can win. So maybe you can start playing type 2 games, where everything depends on you. So the answer is “provably fair” is meaningless for games like stake BJ and video poker? And I guess my 63% EV across 375,000 hands in video poker can be chalked up to bad luck?
Moderator maverick528 Posted May 2, 2024 Moderator #17 Posted May 2, 2024 In games like BJ and Video Poker where the result are heavily tied to the player decisions and strats, bad results on big samples of bets just show that you are not using the best choices. As I already mentioned, several ppl rely on strats they picked somewhere and most of them are for a finite number of card decks, since irl you can never really have infinite decks.
Rocky12 Posted May 4, 2024 #18 Posted May 4, 2024 I dont understand why people play originals they are a scam
poppop05 Posted May 4, 2024 #19 Posted May 4, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 11:03 PM, maxisl said: when you lose a lot and press the rakeback to try with small bets you will get the goal so easy 😁 trolling trolling 😂 i lost $60000 in dice and i know every word i wrote very well and i left stake for this reason This is 100% true, and stake utilize algorithm 👍
RussianRambo Posted May 4, 2024 #21 Posted May 4, 2024 looks fishy, but not surprising at all from an online casino
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