Is that real (based on luck) or a logarithm !!?

[EngAbdulaziz]

For 2 weeks all the trends are down so I swear I will not deposit any more money in this website!! 
 

they gave you a small wins then they take it again 

 

good luck all and good bye 👋🏻 

[poppop05]

Algorithm 10000000% it's imposible to play here 

[AbegairFraga]

Algorithm not favor

[Lucas 642]

That's the classic profit chart for everyone here

[Muriahsy]

That happens to the best of us

[ProvablyFairLOL]

There is absolutely 0 transparency with how the games operate. No legit agency is auditing their software. Who knows what they have or what they’re capable of in terms of altering results. If stake was a real casino every ATM would be out of money. The consistent losing on this site is simply not believable. 

[midnight]

12 minutes ago, ProvablyFairLOL said:

There is absolutely 0 transparency with how the games operate. No legit agency is auditing their software. Who knows what they have or what they’re capable of in terms of altering results. If stake was a real casino every ATM would be out of money. The consistent losing on this site is simply not believable. 

You can generate rolls yourself, the formulas are all there... I have done it quite a lot, and even completely divorced from the website and using my own code, I can come to the same results.

Originals have a lot of transparency. Your name implies you have no idea how that system works. They can't alter results when you are given the hashed server seed before picking your client seed. You can check every roll, every roll is deterministic the moment you rotate the seed...

Whether the games are fair in terms of the probabilities, well, that's a different issue and not related to being provably fair. But no, they are not altering results after the fact.

[assasin448]

So I have played same set of games for days , weeks and months 

My conclusion is higher your vip level higher chance of you winning big, plus the games literally glitch every time I feel I'm in the flow and about to win that should stop, games don't pay what so ever after a certain point , there are good timings and bad timings but winning is only if uve been playing for a while otherwise payouts are small, the algorithm doesn't let you win big unless uve lost big 

Plus winnings are limited I have never won more than 5x my amount 

Like if have 1000 dollars I have never won 5000 it's always 500 to 1000 

Bombay blackjack every table has exact same outcome 

Again timing matters 

It's more of time based than luck based 

I'm all out of money and on the streets

But gl to you guys 

[Hah40]

On 5/6/2024 at 10:31 PM, poppop05 said:

Algorithm 10000000% it's imposible to play here 

[midnight]

7 minutes ago, assasin448 said:

So I have played same set of games for days , weeks and months 

My conclusion is higher your vip level higher chance of you winning big, plus the games literally glitch every time I feel I'm in the flow and about to win that should stop, games don't pay what so ever after a certain point , there are good timings and bad timings but winning is only if uve been playing for a while otherwise payouts are small, the algorithm doesn't let you win big unless uve lost big 

Plus winnings are limited I have never won more than 5x my amount 

Like if have 1000 dollars I have never won 5000 it's always 500 to 1000 

Bombay blackjack every table has exact same outcome 

Again timing matters 

It's more of time based than luck based 

I'm all out of money and on the streets

But gl to you guys 

(For originals:) Timing is irrelevant, I'm afraid, since as I mentioned your future rolls are all deterministic, if you leave your phone/computer at nonce 100 and don't come back for 10 years and then roll one more time and reveal nonce 101, it will be the same result as if you didn't take any such break at all.

It is better this way because it means no matter what the casino can try to do, your future is out of their hands. In fact, they can actually already know what all your rolls will be, good or bad, and they can't do anything about it at all. (You can also check afterwards if they ever 'skipped' a roll... and from what I have tested that has never happened once).

It's easy to come to conclusions like that, but they don't work with the given reality of how the rolls are generated. Looking at your own betting habits/tilt betting/"hope"/unrealistic expectations is harder to do but more valuable.

What is interesting, by the way, @popop05 and @Hah40, is your wagered over the past month and your loss are almost exactly 98% RTP. 

($46895*0.02 = 937.9 expected loss...)

($806291*0.02 = 16125.82 expected loss...)

[ProvablyFairLOL]

1 hour ago, midnight said:

You can generate rolls yourself, the formulas are all there... I have done it quite a lot, and even completely divorced from the website and using my own code, I can come to the same results.

Originals have a lot of transparency. Your name implies you have no idea how that system works. They can't alter results when you are given the hashed server seed before picking your client seed. You can check every roll, every roll is deterministic the moment you rotate the seed...

Whether the games are fair in terms of the probabilities, well, that's a different issue and not related to being provably fair. But no, they are not altering results after the fact.

Probably fair means nothing to me because I play blackjack and video poker.

So what’s the point of verifying 65 consecutive losing hands? To prove stake doesn’t operate according to standard EV?

 

never claimed they’re altering the results post bet. Read before you reply. 

[CoolNit]

Guys that @midnightperson has no idea how it can be rigged. That person is just repeating what stake has told us. I have been playing since 2018 and I can assure you the algorithm has been altered recently more and more and results are limited to small percentage of winning for short time and huge loss over few hours. I play original a lot and I can see that they say there are 3k-4k people in side but once u go inside u can see only 30 fixed people who usually play same amount over and over(bots) and they predict your play and cash out based on cookies and trackers from your webpage. 
so I would suggest bet on sports or go play simple BJ in some good table 

[midnight]

Then, please, explain.

If you care, I mean, none of you do to understand how this works,

On 5/9/2024 at 12:23 PM, ProvablyFairLOL said:

Probably fair means nothing to me because I play blackjack and video poker.

So what’s the point of verifying 65 consecutive losing hands? To prove stake doesn’t operate according to standard EV?

If it's originals it still matters... they use provably fair. Every original does. If it's not, and it's a provider, then, I have no interest in those because they aren't as easily independently verifiable. If you have dubious concerns over the fairness of a game and continue to play them though, that's your choice.
 

I just don't believe you could lose 65 hands in a row : \ so I don't really consider that a real question. What you would want to do is just verify random bets in your history, or, the entire history.

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what they’re capable of in terms of altering results.

Is what I extrapolated that out of.

On 5/10/2024 at 4:52 AM, CoolNit said:

Guys that @midnightperson has no idea how it can be rigged. That person is just repeating what stake has told us. I have been playing since 2018 and I can assure you the algorithm has been altered recently more and more and results are limited to small percentage of winning for short time and huge loss over few hours. I play original a lot and I can see that they say there are 3k-4k people in side but once u go inside u can see only 30 fixed people who usually play same amount over and over(bots) and they predict your play and cash out based on cookies and trackers from your webpage. 
so I would suggest bet on sports or go play simple BJ in some good table 

Now, my question to you and anyone else who believes in this is, is it dumber for me to not believe it, or is it dumber for you to continue to play when you do believe this is how it works? Like, to play any of the games, at all.

 

Of course they predict your playstyle with your behavior, that's easy to do even without cookies. They have your whole bet archive. There are companies based entirely around the analysis of those stats, but that's irrelevant to the point. Unless you can prove a way they could change the result of an original after the seed has been set, anything else is in your head.

 

It's honestly such a drag because it means you are really hyperfocusing on problems that aren't real and can't pay attention to what matters.

But, I can tell you exactly how pf works, but if you or anyone else truly believes it is how you are describing, then please, stop being scammed here and leave. I'm not saying, 'just leave because youre complaining' just like genuinely, you are obviously losing a lot and you should stop, and that's what Stake will refrain from wanting to tell you actually.

[ProvablyFairLOL]

2 hours ago, midnight said:

Then, please, explain.

If you care, I mean, none of you do to understand how this works,

If it's originals it still matters... they use provably fair. Every original does. If it's not, and it's a provider, then, I have no interest in those because they aren't as easily independently verifiable. If you have dubious concerns over the fairness of a game and continue to play them though, that's your choice.
 

I just don't believe you could lose 65 hands in a row : \ so I don't really consider that a real question. What you would want to do is just verify random bets in your history, or, the entire history.

Is what I extrapolated that out of.

Now, my question to you and anyone else who believes in this is, is it dumber for me to not believe it, or is it dumber for you to continue to play when you do believe this is how it works? Like, to play any of the games, at all.

 

Of course they predict your playstyle with your behavior, that's easy to do even without cookies. They have your whole bet archive. There are companies based entirely around the analysis of those stats, but that's irrelevant to the point. Unless you can prove a way they could change the result of an original after the seed has been set, anything else is in your head.

 

It's honestly such a drag because it means you are really hyperfocusing on problems that aren't real and can't pay attention to what matters.

But, I can tell you exactly how pf works, but if you or anyone else truly believes it is how you are describing, then please, stop being scammed here and leave. I'm not saying, 'just leave because youre complaining' just like genuinely, you are obviously losing a lot and you should stop, and that's what Stake will refrain from wanting to tell you actually.

What? You just wrote 500 words of utter nonsense.

[madwish35]

On 5/9/2024 at 7:44 PM, midnight said:

You can generate rolls yourself, the formulas are all there... I have done it quite a lot, and even completely divorced from the website and using my own code, I can come to the same results.

Originals have a lot of transparency. Your name implies you have no idea how that system works. They can't alter results when you are given the hashed server seed before picking your client seed. You can check every roll, every roll is deterministic the moment you rotate the seed...

Whether the games are fair in terms of the probabilities, well, that's a different issue and not related to being provably fair. But no, they are not altering results after the fact.

Dear, your lack of knowledge made me to reply at this topic.

What you mentioned abour results, hashed codes - just confirms that the game result is correct. Stake implemented provably fair on their own.

What exactly can be done, it's just force-skip of winning nonces. 

You explained it properly, but by the book, not by practice.

[sorrycantseeme3]

On 5/9/2024 at 10:28 AM, ProvablyFairLOL said:

There is absolutely 0 transparency with how the games operate. No legit agency is auditing their software. Who knows what they have or what they’re capable of in terms of altering results. If stake was a real casino every ATM would be out of money. The consistent losing on this site is simply not believable. 

100% STAKE manipulaates RNG on the server side . This is fact . 

Base your slot play in a rreal casino vs slot play at stake.Can you remember anytime on a real slot machine where you go 30-100 spins without a line win .

Never happens because the RNG Generated and rtp% know its mathematically impossible,yet stake claims 96% rtp joke

[Hiren_786]

Tbh I hate dice and keno