freakstr Posted May 14, 2024 #1 Posted May 14, 2024 Look at this.... I played 13 Slots with 20 Spins per slot, MINIMUM BET on all. After I changed currency to VND, because it was to expensive for me. I made Screenshots on all Games. at the first 3 slots, I dont take the Slot Name on the pic, but then... see yourself.... NO WORDS for this When TOTAL Spins not show twenty, it means, the winning spin amount was the same as the bet. BET: 100 VND BET: 0.1 Cent BET: 0.1Cent The only one winning Slot. It was ONE five pic line !
lcsusd Posted May 14, 2024 #2 Posted May 14, 2024 there is average real rtp is 10-15% in slots. So u should expect 10 wins out of 100 spins. Same for bonus buys.
freakstr Posted May 14, 2024 Author #3 Posted May 14, 2024 Yes I know, But I want to show it ... The whole day, only 1 oder 2 win spins per slot. Not more... that's STAKE !
haza01 Posted May 14, 2024 #5 Posted May 14, 2024 can happen it's casino, problem is when it's like that every day on each deposit
Soph Posted May 14, 2024 #6 Posted May 14, 2024 I don't know if this is a good calculation method to evaluate a slot machine. Let's assume that on a $1 base machine, that it accumulates $100,000 and returns $98,000, we consider that 2% goes to the casino and the licenses. Then, you will have to pay the different levels of winnings. To understand the explanation which follows, with numbers coming out at random (I insist) we consider different distributions: - 1 jackpot at x10000 = 10000 - 2 wins at x5000 = 10000 - 5 wins at x1000 = 5000 Already there, there is 25% of the accumulation reserved for these winnings. All over 8 rounds. We will add other levels like: - 10 wins at x1000 = 10000 - 20 wins at x500 = 10000 - 50 wins at x100 = 5000 Here again, 25% of the total will go back to these winnings. All over 80 laps. Out of a total of 88 rounds, there is 50% of the total cumulative awarded for these levels. We will add others: - 100 winnings at x50 = 5000 - 500 winnings at x20 = 10000 - 1000 winnings at x10 = 10000 Here again, we have 25% of the total, or 75% in total, which will be returned to the players. For a total of 1688 winning spins. Let's add these last levels again: - 1000 winnings at x5 = 5000 - 5000 winnings at x2 = 10000 - 8000 winnings at x1 = 8000 Here, the end where the slot machine returns the remaining 23000 in 14000 winning spins. * To simplify the explanation, I do not take into account multipliers less than 1 (x0.6/ x0.4/ x0.2 etc)* We therefore have a machine which returns $98,000 out of 100,000. All in 15,688 winning spins. The final calculation will therefore be to know how much losing bet will be necessary in order to finance the winnings and the casino? Very simple, 100000-15688=84312. It will therefore take 84312 losing spins to finance the winnings and the casino. From there, you will get a better idea of the whole package and how the slot machines work. As a player, we have no control over events. It's chance, it's the casino. We just have to hope, during our session, that we come across one of the winning hands that will give us an acceptable profit. (imperfect English, translation done via an online tool)
haza01 Posted May 14, 2024 #7 Posted May 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, Soph said: I don't know if this is a good calculation method to evaluate a slot machine. Let's assume that on a $1 base machine, that it accumulates $100,000 and returns $98,000, we consider that 2% goes to the casino and the licenses. Then, you will have to pay the different levels of winnings. To understand the explanation which follows, with numbers coming out at random (I insist) we consider different distributions: - 1 jackpot at x10000 = 10000 - 2 wins at x5000 = 10000 - 5 wins at x1000 = 5000 Already there, there is 25% of the accumulation reserved for these winnings. All over 8 rounds. We will add other levels like: - 10 wins at x1000 = 10000 - 20 wins at x500 = 10000 - 50 wins at x100 = 5000 Here again, 25% of the total will go back to these winnings. All over 80 laps. Out of a total of 88 rounds, there is 50% of the total cumulative awarded for these levels. We will add others: - 100 winnings at x50 = 5000 - 500 winnings at x20 = 10000 - 1000 winnings at x10 = 10000 Here again, we have 25% of the total, or 75% in total, which will be returned to the players. For a total of 1688 winning spins. Let's add these last levels again: - 1000 winnings at x5 = 5000 - 5000 winnings at x2 = 10000 - 8000 winnings at x1 = 8000 Here, the end where the slot machine returns the remaining 23000 in 14000 winning spins. * To simplify the explanation, I do not take into account multipliers less than 1 (x0.6/ x0.4/ x0.2 etc)* We therefore have a machine which returns $98,000 out of 100,000. All in 15,688 winning spins. The final calculation will therefore be to know how much losing bet will be necessary in order to finance the winnings and the casino? Very simple, 100000-15688=84312. It will therefore take 84312 losing spins to finance the winnings and the casino. From there, you will get a better idea of the whole package and how the slot machines work. As a player, we have no control over events. It's chance, it's the casino. We just have to hope, during our session, that we come across one of the winning hands that will give us an acceptable profit. (imperfect English, translation done via an online tool) don't need to do all that calculation, they need to run a F1 team and sponsor a premier league team with 3% RTP left lol , so do you think RTP really exist on slots ? cmon it's more like 3% RTP and 97% for Eddie
Soph Posted May 14, 2024 #8 Posted May 14, 2024 Of course, RTP exists even if we can't verify it ourselves. In any case, the player wins on average almost less than 1 victory every 10 rounds. It's normal to always feel like you're losing if you don't get a big win. At worst, if the RTP would be rigged, then you should not put any coins in it.
haza01 Posted May 14, 2024 #9 Posted May 14, 2024 19 minutes ago, Soph said: Of course, RTP exists even if we can't verify it ourselves. In any case, the player wins on average almost less than 1 victory every 10 rounds. It's normal to always feel like you're losing if you don't get a big win. At worst, if the RTP would be rigged, then you should not put any coins in it. "ofc it exits if you think it don't then don't play" is not an argument . in any case player win what they want let you win that's all. go look what streamer win and try to do the same, you'll see.
Soph Posted May 14, 2024 #10 Posted May 14, 2024 Maybe some machines are influenced to gain certain identifiers, we don't know... But precisely, if this were the case, it is logically the losing hands which pay the winning streamers. I made x5000/x1000 and with each gain like that, I tell myself that there were 4999/999 losers to finance my winnings. It's like the lottery, it's like sport and it's valid in many areas: having winners implies that there will be losers. The calculation example above, which you consider futile, nevertheless gives you an idea of how it works. There is not a single game where you can win without it being financed by the losers (or by investors who would advertise it). So if you watch the streamers win, a word of advice: don't play on the same machines as them since they have just redistributed the coins and will enter an "accumulation" mode, a mode of operation which will mainly be losing hands.
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