EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 #1 Posted October 19, 2018 Okay, so we all know the marketplace is going to be phased out from Stake, Im wondering how they thought when they announced this. They don't provide their own exchange system, for example @DarkBlood069 has an exchange service that's now closed on the forum, you can stiill contact him in PM's and get exchanges but it was easier when it was on the forums as everyone could know he's legit, all trades were posted in that topic for everyone to see. Well anyways in my opinion the open marketplace was very good for the community and I don't like that they are going to close it at all. If they make their own exchange system I will have absolutely no problem with this at all but as it is right now I want the exchanges to be public so scams could be prevented. What do you guys think? Please share your thoughts, I will happily listen to what you think
williamshennie9 Posted October 19, 2018 #2 Posted October 19, 2018 I only used the marketplace for a few trades here and there to exchange between a few currencies on Stake. I am sad to see it go, since there were many trusted users there doing good business. It is sad to see that a few scammers have ruined the experience for everyone else
EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 Author #3 Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, williamshennie9 said: I only used the marketplace for a few trades here and there to exchange between a few currencies on Stake. I am sad to see it go, since there were many trusted users there doing good business. It is sad to see that a few scammers have ruined the experience for everyone else I also have only used it for a couple trades but still I don't like that they are taking it away, The people doing legit business are losing because of this as they can't promote their business the same way anymore, well of course there has been scammers but hopefully they are long gone from Stake now!
williamshennie9 Posted October 19, 2018 #4 Posted October 19, 2018 I think @Kate sells accounts on the marketplace. I feel bad for these users that were doing legit business on Stake, as they made the marketplace a pleasant experience for everyone I'm super sad to see this happen.
EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 Author #5 Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, williamshennie9 said: I think @Kate sells accounts on the marketplace. I feel bad for these users that were doing legit business on Stake, as they made the marketplace a pleasant experience for everyone I'm super sad to see this happen. @Kate how do you feel about this? Everyone that did legit business should have the possibility to do so in a community but yeah, we can't really do anything
Mikehoncho Posted October 19, 2018 #6 Posted October 19, 2018 I think it will save some headache from people scamming, but losing the exchange options sucks. At least you can still pm Darkblood about it. If he quits using stake though, what then?
lupandina Posted October 19, 2018 #7 Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mikehoncho said: I think it will save some headache from people scamming, but losing the exchange options sucks. At least you can still pm Darkblood about it. If he quits using stake though, what then? Or Stake will devolop an exchange, or you will find other user
Gamerboy Posted October 19, 2018 #8 Posted October 19, 2018 Well if Stake can bring a better exchange then its possible to remove it
lolipant Posted October 19, 2018 #9 Posted October 19, 2018 isn't this meant we have to take a full risk (no support from stake anymore) but are allowed to post in off-topic (or whatever forum) instead?
EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 Author #11 Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, DarkBlood069 said: This had ruined business for me so it's harder to make a little risk free money whilst at the same time trying to help out a lot of players. Phasing out had to be done but in my honest opinion, it's not going to stop loans or exchanges. I will carry on with services anyway knowing the full responsibility of risks on exchanges. However, although I did speak to Dan about this, he will not change his mind even though those who are legitimately helping others are now getting caught in this problematic phase. Lot's of scammers are not making the trading section easy, but you all know how I work, you will always have to send first so I can convert for you. This way, you and I can't be scammed, I have no intentions of scamming any of the players at stake, I enjoy this site too much and I love the community. I have worked hard to come so far so hopefully my loyalty has been heard. I respect everyone at Stake and wish the best of luck! If you need any exchanges, please don't hesitate, let me know on the forum PM or Stake PM. I don't even mind talking to you guys/gals - so if you just need some time away from betting and need to talk, reach out to me. Regards, DB. I thought about this whole thing and maybe the staff could in some way verify legit people and make a only verified people ¨marketplace¨ for example offering exchanges but that would be a lot of work for them This would work if when you are verified, the person using you always needs to go first as you are proven legit or something like that! 19 minutes ago, Mikehoncho said: I think it will save some headache from people scamming, but losing the exchange options sucks. At least you can still pm Darkblood about it. If he quits using stake though, what then? Yeah, I hate scamming but still it's sad that we lose the legit people! 14 minutes ago, lupandina said: Or Stake will devolop an exchange, or you will find other user Stake might develop an exchange, that's what Im hoping for as it would be 100% risk free then! 10 minutes ago, Gamerboy said: Well if Stake can bring a better exchange then its possible to remove it This is what Im hoping for! 10 minutes ago, lolipant said: isn't this meant we have to take a full risk (no support from stake anymore) but are allowed to post in off-topic (or whatever forum) instead? I really don't know, we will have to ask someone about this, they 100% won't support us if we get scammed in any way aswell as they might not want us using their forum as they have removed this for a reason. Maybe we should start a telegram or facebook group for this instead! 6 minutes ago, Clavem said: There's nothing left to do. I think.. I really hope we can find a way around this!
Moderator Flan Posted October 19, 2018 Moderator #12 Posted October 19, 2018 I can't decide the polling. I just want to wait the new service that Stake offer, if these service works as we expected, so I can said Marketplace can be phased out. How about Stake giving opportunity to working together with trusted shop before that wants to offer exchange service? It would be good, so they are not leaving Stake because of marketplace being removed.
EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 Author #13 Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, flansca said: I can't decide the polling. I just want to wait the new service that Stake offer, if these service works as we expected, so I can said Marketplace can be phased out. How about Stake giving opportunity to working together with trusted shop before that wants to offer exchange service? It would be good, so they are not leaving Stake because of marketplace being removed. Yeah, this sounds good, If they offer an exchange Im 100% fine with them deleting the marketplace but right now I think it's pretty annoying!
ceastem Posted October 19, 2018 #14 Posted October 19, 2018 Yes they will offer an exchange but i don't think it will come anytime soon though. What i think about this is that stake wants no more obligations from people scamming one another. I think there are times that they cannot do anything about it like what if somebody gave 1 btc to another and made withdrawal as soon as they recieved it. I doubt stake can do anything once it is out of the site. It just means more work + obligations for them without benefits so i think it is better if they just do not interfere with transactions between members.
EddieFx Posted October 19, 2018 Author #15 Posted October 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, ceastem said: Yes they will offer an exchange but i don't think it will come anytime soon though. What i think about this is that stake wants no more obligations from people scamming one another. I think there are times that they cannot do anything about it like what if somebody gave 1 btc to another and made withdrawal as soon as they recieved it. I doubt stake can do anything once it is out of the site. It just means more work + obligations for them without benefits so i think it is better if they just do not interfere with transactions between members. They should not in my opinion delete the marketplace until the actual insite exchange is open for use but I also understand the point of view, they need to get rid of scammers and this is the easiest way 5 minutes ago, DarkBlood069 said: The only problem of removing the exchanges is that users that need to convert coins having no inside platform to do it makes it hard. I would completely understand if stake had a exchange service, if they did, obviously yes, the market place should be taken down in my honest opinion. Because this has been discussed, staff will need a long time to implement it. But it seems a little silly to remove market place until they build the service... Remember, I am happy to help out as much as I can in my PM but as of Monday, we are not to discuss about exchanges on the forum. So please bear that in mind. I will continue my services until stake brings in an exchange platform themselves. Anyway, have fun! Thank you DarkBlood for keeping the service as long as it's needed!
Etude Posted October 20, 2018 #16 Posted October 20, 2018 Well the phasing out of Marketplace definitely seem to have greatly affected users that often use them, especially in terms of cryptocurrency exchanges.
irawk0 Posted October 20, 2018 #17 Posted October 20, 2018 This phasing out is inevitable. Scammers will always exist and try to scam, it's human nature. To avoid the hassle and headaches the easiest (although not the best imo) method is to remove marketplace altogether. However, I posted a suggestion awhile back (which no one bothered to read, tyvm! /s) for Mods to offer Middleman/escrow services, basically holding both funds from both parties then re-distributing them. To make it worthwhile for mods I suggested a 1% or 0.5% fee paid by both parties (so 2% total or 1% total) to the Mods as service payment. Exchange services can add on top, e.g. Darkblood069's 4% rate will make it so I pay 4.5-5% while he pays the 0.5-1% fee. Take a look if you want to: (will be bumping it to gather more attention now that it's more relevant than ever before) https://forum.stake.com/topic/13345-suggestion-crypto-currency-trading-improvements
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