New alts and abusing rain

[ravenyvolle2]

Okay, maybe this post will be a bit biased to new players, but i feel like everytime I see a new username/ player in english chat, they are just "alts" of some old players to get more rains or tips. 

As I often see them ask for rains, tips, etc or say some words like "nice tips" etc that is interpreted as passive begging.

I kinda miss the old chat when there are still no updates and I noticed that old members are not there anymore and all i see are new ones sharing problems, saying bad days etc. I only chat nowadays if i saw someone interesting or say something good:P 

Oh well, old english chat gone (at least for me).-.- 

[Dan]

We have some plans in the pipeline to help prevent such things from happening in the future. You should start to notice it be more and more genuine new players rather than alts.

[ravenyvolle2]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

We have some plans in the pipeline to help prevent such things from happening in the future. You should start to notice it be more and more genuine new players rather than alts.

Cool, it looks like a good plan. 👍

Looking forward to it

[Dan]

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

[kayke94]

16 minutes ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

this is very good dan! keep up the good work guys!

[dmbadillo10]

1 hour ago, ravenyvolle2 said:

Okay, maybe this post will be a bit biased to new players, but i feel like everytime I see a new username/ player in english chat, they are just "alts" of some old players to get more rains or tips. 

 As I often see them ask for rains, tips, etc or say some words like "nice tips" etc that is interpreted as passive begging.

I kinda miss the old chat when there are still no updates and I noticed that old members are not there anymore and all i see are new ones sharing problems, saying bad days etc. I only chat nowadays if i saw someone interesting or say something good:P 

Oh well, old english chat gone (at least for me).-.- 

I agree. Its kinda awkward to know that you are speaking nicely to someone that you've already known before in chat.. Ofc without you knowing it. LOL.

But good thing management has something planned to filter these alts.

[ravenyvolle2]

7 minutes ago, dmbadillo10 said:

I agree. Its kinda awkward to know that you are speaking nicely to someone that you've already known before in chat.. Ofc without you knowing it. LOL.

But good thing management has something planned to filter these alts.

Haha yeah its quite annoying too what happend to chat.

So manu weird things going on 😋

[jkd123]

1 hour ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

Yeah banking system, I would like to see this on stake.

[dmbadillo10]

18 minutes ago, ravenyvolle2 said:

Haha yeah its quite annoying too what happend to chat.

So manu weird things going on 😋

Hahah. That's why sometimes, I choose not to join the frey.

Anyways, this is an uncontrollable stuff. People come in and out. We can't really filter them that easy. Let's just hope for the best and what is being planned by the management regarding this specific matter.

[Etude]

2 hours ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

Interesting to know that there is a counter-measure to this problem being worked out.

[Mahdirakib87]

We can see different kind of user at chat. Big gambler comes rarely at chat. And there are some user who comes play and go without give any concentrate on chat. Some other best people here who play a lot and stay active at chat always those are the real user in my opinion. And we have the spammer here always like the love to stay at chat to get some free coins, rain, positive begging, asking for loan etc. Actually all those user makes the chat stay alive. We should allow some spammers lol😉

[ceastem]

3 hours ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

Ohh great! Then someday there will be a time that alts will be removed ? Or users can only access 1 account per IP address or device right?

Thats good news! Thanks for the update Dan. I sure wish what you guys are currently working on are included in change logs though.

[irawk0]

Just adding on to previous posts - some of those people are most likely genuine new players. The amount of giveaways on twitter/insta is bound to attract new people to this site 😛

I do agree with OP though, that there are people with alts just sitting in chat with autotypers saying "sad day" to farm rains.

@Dan , the above mentioned people will still create alts to farm rain, just FYI lol

[williamshennie9]

 

4 hours ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

I'm so glad to hear that alts will no longer be allowed soon  This will be awesome!

[ravenyvolle2]

Once Dan will implement these. It will be so much fun:P and no more alts whatsoever hehe 

[Flan]

5 hours ago, Dan said:

We are removing reasons for people to create alts. For example:

• When there's no marketplace or way for people to scam each other, then there's no reason to create alts to hide behind.
• When you cant spam people to phish or offer fake rakeback schemes to other sites, then no need to create alts.
• When stealing someones password no longer gives you access to their funds, no need to an alt.
• When a banking system exists, no need for an alt.

All these things are very very close to being completed.

Yeah, that will do. No more random words. I just wanted some merging bank account and main account, and we have some different password but with same account. No need tipping, and you can transfer them like forum balance. 

or

If you want, we need to insert phone number in order to chat. I believe with these, people would stop spamming or even scamming, and one phone number is for one account. 

[Dan]

1 hour ago, irawk0 said:

Just adding on to previous posts - some of those people are most likely genuine new players. The amount of giveaways on twitter/insta is bound to attract new people to this site 😛

I do agree with OP though, that there are people with alts just sitting in chat with autotypers saying "sad day" to farm rains.

@Dan , the above mentioned people will still create alts to farm rain, just FYI lol

Chatting has no influence on the rain chances. Its purely wager, then if there's not enough people wagering on that channel, its a lucky dip.

[xtinepink]

14 minutes ago, Dan said:

Chatting has no influence on the rain chances. Its purely wager, then if there's not enough people wagering on that channel, its a lucky dip.

It would be hard to catch rain in English chat if the activity is pure chat but people who are in other channels it’s easy even just by chatting only. 

That’s why other players abuse having to create alts and going to all other channels to spam (using google translate sometimes). 

Hopefully that rainbot will be strictly based on pure wager only. 

[Dan]

2 minutes ago, xtinepink said:

It would be hard to catch rain in English chat if the activity is pure chat but people who are in other channels it’s easy even just by chatting only. 

That’s why other players abuse having to create alts and going to all other channels to spam (using google translate sometimes). 

Hopefully that rainbot will be strictly based on pure wager only. 

If there is enough people in that channel who is wagering, then people who aren't wont have a chance! Chatting has no influence, so by them creating alts and chatting doesn't give them any advantage. They only get rained on when there's not enough players in their channel wagering. Then it has to picked the "in-actives" to fill up the rain list.

[Etude]

Oh this is perhaps the most concise explaination yet regarding the rain mechanism I believe. 

[meggiemegs]

Glad to get some updates. I like the direction stake is headed in a lot of users complained at first but they didn't give stake a chance. And thanks Dan for all the info.  

[HighDamage]

13 hours ago, ravenyvolle2 said:

Okay, maybe this post will be a bit biased to new players, but i feel like everytime I see a new username/ player in english chat, they are just "alts" of some old players to get more rains or tips. 

As I often see them ask for rains, tips, etc or say some words like "nice tips" etc that is interpreted as passive begging.

I kinda miss the old chat when there are still no updates and I noticed that old members are not there anymore and all i see are new ones sharing problems, saying bad days etc. I only chat nowadays if i saw someone interesting or say something good:P 

Oh well, old english chat gone (at least for me).-.- 

I also often see alts doing short chats and getting rain it makes the possibility of getting rain for honest users very little :'(  

[Etude]

7 hours ago, HighDamage said:

I also often see alts doing short chats and getting rain it makes the possibility of getting rain for honest users very little :'(  

I'm quite sure they are also wagering in order to receive, rather than just purely chat only.

[peel1]

great to see stake keep up to date and know what there doing 

[wry]

17 hours ago, Dan said:

Chatting has no influence on the rain chances. Its purely wager, then if there's not enough people wagering on that channel, its a lucky dip.

This is a key factor and very big news!  It should help further reduce the incentives for alts.  I agree with @ravenyvolle2 it is getting totally out of hand.  Sadly it is just one or two people I'm pretty sure.

Good Luck!