The butterfly effect

[KiXxnTRiXx]

I am curious, when players hit big on a certain game, does that affect how the games behave when you play it? If that player was paid by it, would that game still payout if you play it? or should you stay away from it for a bit? This has been on my mind for a while now, and would really like to know the answer or close to fact.. 🤔 .. any idea? 

[BLXN]

I think it depends on the seed pair, personally. Some seeds hit big wherever you go, some are only good on dice, or Plinko, etc. I think the more you play one type of game the more your speed becomes attuned to the type of results you seek.  I don't play much but Hilo, dice, or Mines, which are all basically the same payout system, I think. Switching it up can be a good thing for hit, or cold spots in a seed.

[polor12]

check this out if you notice in plinko when you autobet and all of sudden is goes negative..balls keeps coming until it say you dont have enough funds..it should say that before you go negative..that only tells you its programmed.. just try it.. it might give u a better understanding of what im saying..

[Kate]

Well probably yes because its gambling the odds are against us but still it will pay according to the algprithim. There are different algorithims for different people.

[KiXxnTRiXx]

2 hours ago, BLXN said:

I think it depends on the seed pair, personally. Some seeds hit big wherever you go, some are only good on dice, or Plinko, etc. I think the more you play one type of game the more your speed becomes attuned to the type of results you seek.  I don't play much but Hilo, dice, or Mines, which are all basically the same payout system, I think. Switching it up can be a good thing for hit, or cold spots in a seed.

Well, i remember someone saying seeds dont affect your rolls. Not really sure what he  meant about that. I think it was someone from PD.. But still even if its all about the seed, it still doesnt quite answer my question of if someone hit big (with their seed).. does it affect other players games (seed)?

49 minutes ago, polor12 said:

check this out if you notice in plinko when you autobet and all of sudden is goes negative..balls keeps coming until it say you dont have enough funds..it should say that before you go negative..that only tells you its programmed.. just try it.. it might give u a better understanding of what im saying..

lol, i already know that.. it already knows if youre bust or not.. you can even tell faster if you have your account in auto or spam it.. then login to your account again on a different device or hidden browser and youll already see your tital balance., bevore any of the pucks even hit the multipliers..

[bmg]

  I have seen first hand that it dose not effect the game.   However many people would disagree with me on that.    Getting a big win come far and few in between so if you do happen to hit big then odds are its not likely to happen to so there after.

[Bigmann23]

Its hard to say if it has any real effect at all. I personally dont feel it does its all about luck I have had big hits back to back on many ocasions. 

[skywallkee]

Not at all. Every single bet on stake is made from a chain of values that are preset and random. Every single player has his own seed which can be millions of bets away from the closest user.

So for example, if I and you would be on the same seed, and we would have the bets like this (on dice let's say): 10, 50, 30, 80, 90, 10, 0, 45, 94, 21, 34. And my bet would be 50 and yours 45, even if you'd win that 45 with 1 BTC or any other high/low amount, I'd still be on my 50 and have the 30 next and will get to that 45 soon too. I hope that it might be clear enough, the difference, of course, won't really be of a few numbers but waaaay more numbers, but the same logic applies.

That's why I truly believe there's no butterfly effect in stake gambling.

[FotisNt]

Well, according to my experience after hitting a big multiplier once, massive losses incomming, so I guess that the butterfly effect happends to me. I usually wait about an hour to continue betting after a good hit. Most of times I didn't , I lost lots of profits.

[jualid]

6 hours ago, FotisNt said:

Well, according to my experience after hitting a big multiplier once, massive losses incomming, so I guess that the butterfly effect happends to me. I usually wait about an hour to continue betting after a good hit. Most of times I didn't , I lost lots of profits.

Yes, i experienced that too. Whenever you hit a big payout, a long lose streak will comming. I usually change my seed after i hit a big payout.

[williamshennie9]

On 1/21/2019 at 4:18 AM, KiXxnTRiXx said:

I am curious, when players hit big on a certain game, does that affect how the games behave when you play it? If that player was paid by it, would that game still payout if you play it? or should you stay away from it for a bit? This has been on my mind for a while now, and would really like to know the answer or close to fact.. 🤔 .. any idea? 

It all depends on the combination of your Server seed, Client seed and your nonce. These 3 determine the game outcome, not the passage of time. So you could always change these variables when you play if you feel the current combination you are using is not lucky etc.

[Babagucci]

No I don't think it affects you. If you get a big hit and then continue to lose after the big hit then the seed it back to normal. See normally we lose o times out of 10 right so when that big hit comes it isn't going to last too long unless you have a good position on your seed string. It's all about the seed.

[Paecga129]

I dont think that there is a definitive answer to this question dear !    I think there is no way to accurately answer it .... Its more a personal thought 

[FotisNt]

On 1/23/2019 at 8:57 AM, jualid said:

Yes, i experienced that too. Whenever you hit a big payout, a long lose streak will comming. I usually change my seed after i hit a big payout.

Hey, did that actually help you so far? I mean, I've try to change the seed too after hitting a high multiplier, but the loss streak is still on its way, happened everytime to me so far. Guess I'm just unlucky or something or I should just stop betting for some time or evem changing the gamemode. Anyways good luck.

[jualid]

4 hours ago, FotisNt said:

Hey, did that actually help you so far? I mean, I've try to change the seed too after hitting a high multiplier, but the loss streak is still on its way, happened everytime to me so far. Guess I'm just unlucky or something or I should just stop betting for some time or evem changing the gamemode. Anyways good luck.

Not much but i usually take a break after get a long streak and after hit a high multiplier. It's help me a bit.

[Kate]

5 hours ago, FotisNt said:

Hey, did that actually help you so far? I mean, I've try to change the seed too after hitting a high multiplier, but the loss streak is still on its way, happened everytime to me so far. Guess I'm just unlucky or something or I should just stop betting for some time or evem changing the gamemode. Anyways good luck.

Changing of seeds is just to ensire that Stake doesn't enter the seed and manipulate the bets to make it winning bets in favor of Stake. 

[bicoinman]

 

yes yes I think he will be away a bit ......

But we have already seen big and big winner, the first desire that comes in the head is even bigger to win bigger ........

unfortunately robots are not like that and go away with either you always ..........

 

Cheers....!

[blueprints]

Well the thing i hate about stake is everything shares the same server seed and client seed pair. This means the bets you lost could have been big wins for other games! But you missed them all because you used those nonce spots on a diff game that you lost. And then what if you decide to switch games then you could run into the middle of a red streak in that game. I really believe that stake should have seperate seed pairs for each individual game. 

[wilbur]

I was thinking the same thing but in general. If someone loses then someone will win 

But to the games i dont think so. Maybe it was timed that you were winning while others are losing

I have seen straight 3 1000x plinko on HR different users. So it is all about timing

[hanvee]

On 1/21/2019 at 11:24 AM, polor12 said:

check this out if you notice in plinko when you autobet and all of sudden is goes negative..balls keeps coming until it say you dont have enough funds..it should say that before you go negative..that only tells you its programmed.. just try it.. it might give u a better understanding of what im saying..

but this program depend on the way we play too so there are really a hard question.... l

[wilbur]

4 hours ago, hanvee said:

but this program depend on the way we play too so there are really a hard question.... l

Not the way we play but the games are predetermined or in short the bets are assigned already on its designated multiplier. Balls jumping around are just animation of it

[nuuuitsjdragon]

On 1/21/2019 at 10:18 AM, KiXxnTRiXx said:

I am curious, when players hit big on a certain game, does that affect how the games behave when you play it? If that player was paid by it, would that game still payout if you play it? or should you stay away from it for a bit? This has been on my mind for a while now, and would really like to know the answer or close to fact.. 🤔 .. any idea? 

When I analysed the situation from a third-party POV, I was better able to see that regardless of any player’s big hit on the suppposed game - it’s payout/behaviour was not affected and certainly trended over time towards a negative win rate... (like all games)  

In summary, whenever we try to predict the results (some of which may be quite accurate - even over a long time), eventually the trend will 100% switch/change!

[wngo123]

i have the feeling that when you hit big then the game wants to take away everything you got Doesn't matter if you win 2000 satoshis from 50 satoshis or 1 million from 50 000 satoshis.  The game wants to take it back quickly. so usually when I win big I do break to cool down, but it's hard not to come back ASAP

[KiXxnTRiXx]

On 2/4/2019 at 5:34 AM, wngo123 said:

i have the feeling that when you hit big then the game wants to take away everything you got Doesn't matter if you win 2000 satoshis from 50 satoshis or 1 million from 50 000 satoshis.  The game wants to take it back quickly. so usually when I win big I do break to cool down, but it's hard not to come back ASAP

Thats funny you mentioned that., Because ever since the day i hit all high multipliers and won several ltc in the process, i havent been able to hit anything at all.. its been over a month now and still im constantly busting and getting drowned in so much reds playin plinko.. i can still hit the lower pins but when it came to to old plinko, couldnt hit 420x 620x 1000x .. heck i was even having a hard time hitting 130x that whole time.. its been very frustrating.. now the plinko.. even more so, quicker busts.. you have to be vry very lucky to survive onslaught or have a really huge bankroll. if not it will be a long and sad wait in hitting the huge multipliers and will have to suffer countless of busts..

Anyways, thank you all for your replies. Got some pretty useless info out of them and can now look at thing in adifferent perspective! cheers and gl to all!

[kayke94]

well i think the best thing to do is just to stay away from it for couple days but from my own experience i just gonna bust it all again on the same game