Furlicious Posted November 30, 2018 #1 Posted November 30, 2018 Hey Stakers! I have been pondering on this question for the longest time.. lol! i always try to think rational and believe in fairness. But whenever im in the midst of my games, most of the time, i realised that by changing my bet size seems to change the outcome of my game. i mean it just have to happen instantly on my next bet after changing my bet size. E.g i have been placing 0.001 btc on keno for the 1st 20rounds n hitting nothing above 2 numbers on 7 tiles. The moment my funds goes down w lowered balance which lead me to lower my bet size, Thats it. it hits a 14x or 31x for my game round with 0.00003btc bet. Its like What The!!! You know right! Lmao! Yeah, so just wanna ask if its just me being the odd one with weird intuition on my games or does anyone of u out there share the same sentiment as i do? 🤔
Administrator Edward Posted November 30, 2018 Administrator #3 Posted November 30, 2018 All results are deterministic of your client seed. When you set that all your rolls are pre determined. No one has influence over these results & you are able to reverse engineer the way we create your rolls to verify this is the case. For more information check cryptogambling.org - The Crypto Gambling Foundation
Moderator Flan Posted November 30, 2018 Moderator #4 Posted November 30, 2018 I know what you mean. There is no affection within game results. It will depend on your seed, some bad time will happened in the time you betting big and it was something that you can't predict the outcomes. Be careful with your size of bet if you don't want to bust so easily. So, that is why people always warn you to not bet big your money if you want to play more but profitable.
williamshennie9 Posted November 30, 2018 #5 Posted November 30, 2018 I think that would discredit the whole "provably fair" thing, so the bet size definitely does not affect the game outcome.
zeriko Posted November 30, 2018 #6 Posted November 30, 2018 I'm going to have to say that best size definitely does not impact the outcome although deep inside for some reason I still feel like it does I've gone through Many Times Square II I change my vet that's when I hit High multipliers just like you so I can see where you're coming from but I alas the fairness system is probably working
bmg Posted November 30, 2018 #7 Posted November 30, 2018 I've always been told that it has to do with the seed. However it does seem to be harder to win when i place a bigger size bet.
gougou Posted November 30, 2018 #8 Posted November 30, 2018 always the seed makes it if you lose or not.Can happen most days will you play a luck game like plinko to lose ad in one day catch 620x, 1000x.
meggiemegs Posted November 30, 2018 #9 Posted November 30, 2018 It sure does feel like it sometimes and it is always when your doing the last little bit of your balance when the multiplier you need hits but its just bad luck, I know the bet doesn't change the outcome tho.
Furlicious Posted November 30, 2018 Author #10 Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Edward said: All results are deterministic of your client seed. When you set that all your rolls are pre determined. No one has influence over these results & you are able to reverse engineer the way we create your rolls to verify this is the case. For more information check cryptogambling.org - The Crypto Gambling Foundation Haha! Thanks for the clarification, Edward. Do not get me wrong tho, I'm not implying that your site is not provably fair. I do understand and acknowledges my jinx hours are the real culprits. 😅 I will only support at sites that i truly believe in. Why would i still foolishly deposit if the site is not provably fair? Haha! Hang on a sec! Yippee! My deposit has been confirmed! Off i go for my Keno games now! Psss..... Wish me Luck! 😆
Kate Posted November 30, 2018 #11 Posted November 30, 2018 I don't think so because if it does then it wouldn't be fair at all. Like if you bet 0.01 BTC and loose all the time and then you bet 0.0001 BTC and win then that system isn't fair but Stake has a provably fair system so it doesn't matter if the bet is huge or small or petite
dragonjson311 Posted November 30, 2018 #12 Posted November 30, 2018 Lets not get greedy for the sake of challenge
hillowner45 Posted November 30, 2018 #13 Posted November 30, 2018 Definately not, it just bad luck at the worst times haha and a bit of superstition. If our bet size did affect the outcome of the game it wouldn't explain why high rollers can consistently rake in profits despite betting huge.
Mikehoncho Posted November 30, 2018 #14 Posted November 30, 2018 I've definitely experienced the change in luck you're talking about. I don't believe it has anything to do with anything other than coincidence. If you started winning when you raised your bet you wouldn't notice it as much. I think the provably fair system is probably fair.
Etude Posted November 30, 2018 #15 Posted November 30, 2018 Well as a player who gambled long enougg you just can't help feeling that bad bets happens much more often when the stakes are really high. It could also be placebo freeling. 🤔
dionyour Posted November 30, 2018 #16 Posted November 30, 2018 i observed a lot that our base bet affect the game result, that why i dont change my seed i just change my bet.
HighDamage Posted November 30, 2018 #17 Posted November 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Furlicious said: Hey Stakers! I have been pondering on this question for the longest time.. lol! i always try to think rational and believe in fairness. But whenever im in the midst of my games, most of the time, i realised that by changing my bet size seems to change the outcome of my game. i mean it just have to happen instantly on my next bet after changing my bet size. E.g i have been placing 0.001 btc on keno for the 1st 20rounds n hitting nothing above 2 numbers on 7 tiles. The moment my funds goes down w lowered balance which lead me to lower my bet size, Thats it. it hits a 14x or 31x for my game round with 0.00003btc bet. Its like What The!!! You know right! Lmao! Yeah, so just wanna ask if its just me being the odd one with weird intuition on my games or does anyone of u out there share the same sentiment as i do? 🤔 I feel the same way too. when high bets = low multiplier / lose, and when small bets = high multiplier. But that actually does not affect the honesty of the game, both high bets and low bets. The same thing happens when I play chartbet. when I bet I never got a multiplier above 4x, but when the bet was low, I was very surprised because the multiplier could reach 1Mx and that frustrated me. I checked in Fairness and the results were 100% honest Please check at Fairness if you feel unsure :v
Sefan Posted November 30, 2018 #18 Posted November 30, 2018 it sure seemes like thats how it is but its random
williamshennie9 Posted November 30, 2018 #19 Posted November 30, 2018 It can sometimes feel like that when you bet big though. For example, when I bet low in blackjack, I will hit on a hard 14 if the dealer's up card is a 9 or 10 for example. But when I bet extremely high, then I am afraid to hit because I might bust, and consequently, I play stupidly, and end up losing more. Definitely feels like you lose more if you wager more, due to the emotional aspect of it.
Snike Posted November 30, 2018 #20 Posted November 30, 2018 I'm with you on that point! The outcome is definitely affected by things like streaks and basebet size!!
nuuuitsjdragon Posted November 30, 2018 #21 Posted November 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Edward said: All results are deterministic of your client seed. When you set that all your rolls are pre determined. No one has influence over these results & you are able to reverse engineer the way we create your rolls to verify this is the case. For more information check cryptogambling.org - The Crypto Gambling Foundation Pretty much sums all the fallacies up in one nutshell... which we will constantly reevaluate and revisit when bustostreaks are happening... 🤮
Arzellene Posted December 1, 2018 #22 Posted December 1, 2018 First u play small bet u cn get profit,after u get profitt we bet big bet thats the time u will get all red...specially in the dice even blackjack
Etude Posted December 1, 2018 #23 Posted December 1, 2018 I feel that with a higher bet size in HiLo too or whenever I max bet the less likely to happen result usually occurs then I often left dumbfounded. 😑
HighDamage Posted December 1, 2018 #24 Posted December 1, 2018 13 hours ago, SAlex1975 said: Я думаю влияет I am Sorry, but don't use languages other than English in public forums. Use "Locals" if you want to post something in a language other than English 15 hours ago, williamshennie9 said: It can sometimes feel like that when you bet big though. For example, when I bet low in blackjack, I will hit on a hard 14 if the dealer's up card is a 9 or 10 for example. But when I bet extremely high, then I am afraid to hit because I might bust, and consequently, I play stupidly, and end up losing more. Definitely feels like you lose more if you wager more, due to the emotional aspect of it. That often happens, like there is a mental attack that is ready to drop us when the bet is high
kayke94 Posted December 1, 2018 #25 Posted December 1, 2018 yep i sure do get the feeling to when betting high it allways goes waaaay wrong, but afaik its just fully prov. fair!
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