Baccarat Shiest Strategy

[Shiest]

Hi there, fellow Stakers!

Here a just a few of my tips or things to remember when playing Baccarat. Btw, this is simply my opinion only but would love to hear other Stakers opinions and/or tips as well. 

Shiest Baccarat Tips:

"Don’t bet against a run of Banker or Player wins. Logic would tell you that after a run, rooting for the underdog hand should be favourable. However we advise you to either stop betting until the run stops or bet with the run. 
 
Don’t make bets you cannot afford to lose and don’t raise your bet while in a losing streak. A lot of bettors feel the desire to increase their bets to “chase their losses”; do not follow in their footsteps. Rather increase your bet while in a winning streak and decrease it when losing. I have lost a lot in my day doing the opposite, and since I have been following this rule of thumb, I have seen a way more winning days than I used to. 
 
Never bet on the Tie! This is the riskiest bet in Baccarat. If you bet on the probability of a tie of hands, there is a very slim chance and probability. There is a high house advantage of 14.36%, but because of the equally high 8:1 payout, players often fall into the trap of betting on this hand. That is why it is sometimes called the “sucker bet". And we dont want to be suckers now do we. " ~ Jessica Cheng

With that said, I don't follow this tip very well... I like to gamble.

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Let me hear them. 

Thanks for your time and good luck out there!

Best,

Shiest

[irawk0]

28 minutes ago, DarkBlood069 said:

Sorry can you please clarify where you get the percentage of the house of 14.36% when the house edge is not as high as that. I don't believe this to be any use If your explaining why you have come up with such result. Not only are you trying to detail what's happened but you are missing out huge clarification to everything here. It all means nothing to me if I do not know where 14.36% comes from. Care to detail yourself a little more? 

It really is very ridiculous house edge for betting on ties.

[nuuuitsjdragon]

58 minutes ago, Shiest said:

Hi there, fellow Stakers!

Here a just a few of my tips or things to remember when playing Baccarat. Btw, this is simply my opinion only but would love to hear other Stakers opinions and/or tips as well. 

Shiest Baccarat Tips:

Don’t bet against a run of Banker or Player wins. Logic would tell you that after a run, rooting for the underdog hand should be favourable. However we advise you to either stop betting until the run stops or bet with the run. 
 
Don’t make bets you cannot afford to lose and don’t raise your bet while in a losing streak. A lot of bettors feel the desire to increase their bets to “chase their losses”; do not follow in their footsteps. Rather increase your bet while in a winning streak and decrease it when losing. I have lost a lot in my day doing the opposite, and since I have been following this rule of thumb, I have seen a way more winning days than I used to. 
 
Never bet on the Tie! This is the riskiest bet in Baccarat. If you bet on the probability of a tie of hands, there is a very slim chance and probability. There is a high house advantage of 14.36%, but because of the equally high 8:1 payout, players often fall into the trap of betting on this hand. That is why it is sometimes called the “sucker bet". And we dont want to be suckers now do we. With that said, I don't follow this tip very well... I like to gamble.

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Let me hear them. 

Thanks for your time and good luck out there!

Best,

Shiest

Do you play Baccarat a lot? I find it rather mundane and payout tiering is similar to BlackJack considering betting on TIE is not an option.

Maybe Barcarrat is my key to a good win lol.

 

[Shiest]

You want me to run through the mathematics behind the 14.36%  house percentage when betting on the tie??? That seems like a little much. I got the percentage online by using a house advantage calculator and plugging in the odds Stake has set for their baccarat. From my further research and comparisons it looks correct. Maybe one of the admins can explain this further. 

But simple and plain, the odds of hitting tie is around every 10 hands and the payout odds are 8-1. Now for example, you have $100 and bet $10 on the tie only, for 10 straight hands... you would have spent $100 going for the tie and only hitting the tie one time, which netted you $80 after those 10 hands. Which is a $20 loss after 10 hands. If one kept doing this for 10 more hands and then 10 more and 10 more... The result is busted rather quickly. 

[bicoinman]

nice strat ..i'll try it if i win my attraction to do x2

 

[Kate]

Thanks for the great tips will ensure i follow them before playing  .

Also this is a general tip for every game we play in my opinion 

5 hours ago, Shiest said:

 
Don’t make bets you cannot afford to lose and don’t raise your bet while in a losing streak.

Also the house edge is 14 on tie ? What ?! That comes in handy for me thanks. 

[polor12]

here one strategy... dont bet high if tie and 8x you looking for.... player has higher percentage in winning most hands..but dealer has more chance getting 9 or 8 then player...

[Pirnitho]

12 hours ago, Shiest said:

Never bet on the Tie!

There is a high house advantage of 14.36%, but because of the equally high 8:1 payout, players often fall into the trap of betting on this hand.

I invite anyone to correct me if you find that I am wrong.. but I believe that the tie bet here actually has a house edge of a whopping 23.66%!! It is not a "8 to 1" payout, rather a "7 to 1" payout. When you win, you get profit equal to 7 times your bet. If you win on Player, you get 1 times your bet (1 to 1), Banker gives 0.95 times your bet, so.. with the 9.543% of getting a tie, with 7 to 1 payout, this is a 23.66% house edge!

[FotisNt]

Since I've been avoid playing Baccarat, I might give it a shot using your advices! Thanks for sharing.:)

[williamshennie9]

I do agree with you on betting on a tie, maybe if the payout was 12x, I would do it, but I don't think the odds justify 8x.

[meggiemegs]

Thanks for the tips, I agree the tie feels like it def is a trap.  I do not play this game much but when i do I will remember these tips maybe for the next challenge dealing with Baccarat.

[Kate]

5 hours ago, Pirnitho said:

I invite anyone to correct me if you find that I am wrong.. but I believe that the tie bet here actually has a house edge of a whopping 23.66%!! It is not a "8 to 1" payout, rather a "7 to 1" payout. When you win, you get profit equal to 7 times your bet. If you win on Player, you get 1 times your bet (1 to 1), Banker gives 0.95 times your bet, so.. with the 9.543% of getting a tie, with 7 to 1 payout, this is a 23.66% house edge!

Thats a good speculation but if what you say is true then thats actually ridicolous house edge of 23.66 ?? Wow nice 

[Shiest]

8 hours ago, Pirnitho said:

I invite anyone to correct me if you find that I am wrong.. but I believe that the tie bet here actually has a house edge of a whopping 23.66%!! It is not a "8 to 1" payout, rather a "7 to 1" payout. When you win, you get profit equal to 7 times your bet. If you win on Player, you get 1 times your bet (1 to 1), Banker gives 0.95 times your bet, so.. with the 9.543% of getting a tie, with 7 to 1 payout, this is a 23.66% house edge!

Dang! Even more reason to not bet the Tie! 

Those sucker bets are so inviting... Sneaky sneaky. 

[KiXxnTRiXx]

eeeh! i just play baccarat for the 8x tie win.. betting on player or bank is a waste of time unless youre going all in in my opinion.. low multiplier is just slow and boring when bettng small.

[Shiest]

Baccarat has the best odds in the house... Betting on player or banker that is. 

[Pirnitho]

Hi Shiest, it's come to my attention that the majority of your opening post was, apparently written by a "Jessica Cheng" on this url, back in 2012: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-best-strategy-for-baccarat. Is this you? If not, then it would not be "Shiest's tips", per se..

[FotisNt]

i tryed it and for real it worked pretty well

but baccarat will still be a hate game for me  

[bankrollhiter]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         A cool strategy I will definitely try to translate into reality.